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Ok, ı am here make one thing clear. You can make them boy/girl/trans/enby in your headcanons/aus and its ok. A lot of people harrasing each other for this subject. And its just absurd at this point. They beign canonically Enby is not a mandatory thing for your au. İts not erasing the Enby representation or making you homofobik. There are many enby versions of straight characters. Such as Mafia Sans. Just enjoy the stories. Toby himself does not even care about this subject. Otherwise he just would canonically make it clear by now( ı know the said clip, but he was just goofing around there).

then why is determination yellow/gold for wording in labs

I'm pretty sure all 3 known human characters had red eyes originally, because there seems to be a connection between eye color and the soul traits

Great video :)

Such an underrated video. Hope you make another video.

[SORRY BAD ENGLISH IM NOT ENGLISH] The big problem here is not seeing the canon. Canon literally says that is not female or male, is the decision of the player for now because Toby didn't say anything about it directly, so they stay genderless. People misguide this by saying that is canon ''No binary'' when its totally different creating a character that he inself identifys and non binary, than a character that is created LITERALLY as genderless) The real problem in this debate Is that most people attacks other people to make their own versions of Frisk and Chara, that also happened to Jakei Peñaloza by making Frisk and Chara of his own AU Males. And that happened too with Flowerfell, Echotale. And even fanfics of the original Undertale. The excuse? is that people are somehow hurting LGBT community to draw or create a female or male Frisk. They are stupid, of course, because there are no excuse to harass other artists or creators by their own interpretations that should be ''canon'' of a character. The most sane conclusion is that players can decide by their own headcannons if Frisk or Chara is male or female or literally whatever. Doesn't hurt anyone and don't even hurt the narrative. It is a narrative technique used in others games. People, create your own fanfics, drawings, AUS and make Frisk, Chara and Kris and make them literally the way you want it them to be. You want them Genderless? Trans? Male? Female? It is okay. Because this is fiction, and people don't deserve harassment or any kind of shit just because people are dumb when literally interpreting Frisk as a Female is literally nothing wrong there. Frisk, Chara at least doesn't fit in the ''nonbinary'' community because is different creating a character that identifys themselves as non binary, than literal creating a character that DOESN'T have any sex or gender. Greetings and nice vid.

Now please don't hate me in replies but i think Frisk and Chara are more likely Female. And i say *more likely* not entirely. Both of them have a haircut which females do have. Chara also has cheeks that looks more girl-lish On the other hand, Kris is more likely Male. Again i am not saying they're male i am saying more likely. Their appearance are more relatable to guys and the haircut they have aren't identical to females. Tests my opinion tho and it's my theory.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.THANK YOU.

This is an amazing video I loved it :)

Player: Are you a boy or girl Frisk: Child Player: What are you? Frisk: Human Player: WHAT'S INSIDE YOUR PANTS Frisk: D E T E R M I N A T I O N

4:13 I really wanted to say something about how this scene could still be a red herring and that Toby doesn't have to adhere to the fandom’s ideas of what the scene was especially since we’ve only 2 chapters worth of evidence… but I’m so tired after reading the comments and watching the video (seriously your voice is ridiculous soothing) that I just won’t… *for now*

I don’t dislike non binary people but I don’t support it either but have nothing against it

Cool

I love your writing style, this is your most interesting video of the four imo. I like how you tied in primal and intrinsically human fears to the characterization of the troupe, I had never considered this angle before. It is sad to think that the grimmchild will never have a happy ending, but like in many stories, perhaps the ending doesn't matter as much as the journey. Taking a child out of a toxic environment is well enough on its own, and the experience itself gives hope to life.

Baller time, these videos are seriously great

Ok, this video is amazing, and I love that you had the courage and ability to compile and edit all this information, but there is one detail that you pointed out that I disagree with. Around 12:16, you said that: "There is one key aspect I think is intentional; "let us erase this pointless world and move on to the next" Well, the next world could mean another Undertale timeline..." I don't think that is true. After two genocide runs, Chara says: "This SOUL resonates with a strange feeling. There is a reason you continue to recreate this world. There is a reason you continue to destroy it. You. You are wracked with a perverted sentimentality. Hmm. I cannot understand these feelings anymore." It's a small detail, but I feel like it is wildly important to this conversation. I do not know if you address this later in the video, because as soon as I heard that I paused the game, looked up dialogue, and wrote this comment. Bottom line is, I am really happy that I found this video, and thank you for making it.

Beginning is so epic. Nicely done. You gonna be voice actor

So i just see Kickstarter banner of undertale and umm Frisk eye is brown on that banner But science it is kick starter it could be canon and not canon

You sort of lost me at the end with this: "This way, even the characters from Hometown get to exert control over the Darkners, just like you the player, can[...]" Not because I disagree but because I may be a little slow. Can you go into more detail on what you meant here, and how it relates to the preceding statement of "The SOUL is just a tool for you to gain access, power, and ultimately control over this other world". Otherwise I very much enjoyed this video and it gave me some food for thought; if Undertale is a bedtime story, then is Before The Story soundtracking the act of getting into bed? And one more thing, re: the dark fountain in SURVEY_PROGRAM. Isn't that OUR dark fountain, the one that's transporting our SOUL into the world of Deltarune? Think about how Bergley was going to make a dark fountain in Cyber World. Good stuff, do more when the need strikes you.

This comment section is... pretty nice, actually.

Holy moly I was scrolling through subs and saw this video hit 20k 🎉🎉🎉😊

Great video!

Chara is clearly a girl

As someone trying to physically paint a Warhammer army in the art style of Hollow Knight I am DESPERATE to find more breakdowns of its colour theory.

interesting video but bruh chara’s not evil 💀💀 very tired of this characterization of chara, to the point where i’ve been arguing this for almost 5 years, like sure chara wasn’t perfect but they are much more than just an “evil human” stereotype

YESSSSSS

Small off-topic, but I'm a bit curious. Are you perhaps from a slavic country? Your pronunciation sounds very similar to how my polish friends sound when speaking english lol.

Dang why are all comments so cool and wellthought .Great work

I wonder, since SOUL is usually capitalized like LOVE and EXP, if it’s an acronym just like LOVE and EXP. One example I can think of is Spirit Of Under-Lying (power). That’s the best one I can think of that also makes sense lol. Edit: Another theory I just thought of is the trait of the red soul could actually be “Control.” It lines up with Patience, Bravery, Kindness, Integrity, and Justice. Since Justice seems to parallel how the soul works in battle (Being able to shoot like a Sheriff) Control would make sense since you can move freely in all 4 directions. Not only that, but you also have control over the different weapons and items you choose, meanwhile each soul is associated with only their specific armor and weapons. Control also makes sense cause… It’s under your control… This ended up being way longer than it needed to be.

5:03 actually considering Chris is going to put everyone in danger on no grave, by opening a fountain it lines up with the real chara’s willingness to do anything for a certain goal. Also, they were not sadistic in the real life. If she was, you have to call half the monsters in Undertale sadistic. Also frisk actually doesn’t care for monsters since all the hatred on genocide is coming from them “ do you really hate me that much” In fact, they laugh at the fact that they killed her. A bunch of dogs if you check the dog food after killing the dogs

0:53 end of genocide chara: *always smiling* Real chara: “howdy chara , smile for the camera” 3:36 that’s not frisk body tho. It’s chara. Not only do they get the rosy cheeks, but their hair and skin color change it to that of chara one of the only things differentiating the two characters

While this is an interesting interpretation and theory... and has some good points, I don't agree with the red soul being called the determination soul. It's stated in the true lab that all human souls have determination in them. You've probably already addressed this in the comments before though.

2:40 Chara's eyes likely melt because she absorbed the six human souls, and determination is known to melt people, the closest exemple being Flowey in the neutral ending.

the KFC connection

Thank you so much for thid video, it means so much (I'm agender) and this is amazing truely, Frisk, Chara, Kris, Napstablook (all ghosts technically count), Seam and Monster kid all are representations I see myself in, and it's refreshing to see a content creator who isnt purposely showing them into a gendered bubble

Great video, had a lot of fresh takes

Блин, на самом деле классно, что ты указала на то, что смешивание душ работает как и в смысловом , так и в цветовом значении(хотя тут может быть оттенки не один в один)

You are so good! Don’t stop these theories coming- both Hollow Knight and Undertale/Deltarune

I love KFC

Honestly, the discussion continuing on for so long as a whole annoys me a bit. It’s not explicitly said ‘oh hey they’re NB’ because it isn’t the most important thing about the characters, it’s just one aspect, and people can fit into those categories without it being a defining trait of them.

I didn't even know what being trans was until after I realized I was trans. As a smaller kiddo back in 2016, I had assumed Frisk's gender to be female because hair I guess. But, by random chance, I had happened to find some let's-player whose name I don't remember trying out some online Undertale mod thing-- I don't think it played out like Undertale, but I do remember that at least the first two rooms had the same layout. Anyhoo, this person was laughing at the amount of people who chose to play as Frisk, even when there were so many other options. I remember them saying something like "so many genderless children" in a joke-y kind of way. At first, I was pretty confused. My mom had told me what the word "gender" meant prior (but at the time, we both only really knew the binary), so I was just like "GENDERLESS IS AN OPTION?!!!" (Not really but you know. Shocked). My world had been opened up because of a throwaway joke. I remember running into the living room sometime after and proudly proclaiming that I was a genderless child. After that, mom learned what "non-binary" meant, but when she explained it to me, my stubborn ass refused to use it and kept saying I was a genderless child for a while after. Nowadays, I know that my gender is heavily masc-leaning, but if it weren't for Undertale, I might not have learned that I wasn't cis-- at least not for a few years. Thanks, Undertale.

THIS MAN NEEDS MORE SUBS BRO I WATCHED LIKE HALF THE VID THEN SAW HE HAS ONLY 331 SUBS IM MAKING THAT 332 I THOUGHT HE HAD LIKE ATLEAST 10K

honestly with Kris' gender even if we don't know what it is, i think it's clever to refer Kris as Them/They, since it can be used to both singular and plural, on the plural side, since Kris and the Player is connected, is a really good plot device to makes us connect with the world and feel part of it, and on the singular side we don't know Kris' gender and neither Kris knows ours.

in my opinion they are all non-binary (human anyway)

Gender is social construct In my opinion I respect everyones opinion on the matter

13:30 this is an amazing chart and a cool way to analyze the way traits could work, really cool!

In Frisk's case you could _maybe_ argue that the monsters simply don't know Frisk's pronouns and default to they/them, which is relatively unlikely to be hurtful. still, i think it's pretty unambiguous that all three of the humans canonically prefer they/them (and possibly it/its in Chara's case). It's understandable why people come to the conclusion that frisk and chara's gender is ambiguous rather than specifically nonbinary, but with Kris, it's misreading one of the game's central themes. Kris' personality outside of the player's influence is shown _much_ more frequently and conspicuously than either of the other two.