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Equal Temperamant v Just Intonation v Meantone on McSpadden dulcimers
A comparison between equal temperament, just intonation and quarter comma meantone on 3 x McSpadden dulcimers
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Heritage dulcimer first look 26 feb 16
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The Heritage dulcimer is produced by Chas Hagen and is an off-the-shelf production model based on the features and playing styles of pre-1960s instruments. There are more details about the instrument at www.dulcimers.co.uk
Jeni and Billy Chicken Ridge - Conwy 2014
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Jeni and Billy playing Chicken Ridge at Conwy Bluegrass Festival with Robin Clark on Galax mountain dulcimer.
Higher Ground - DAdA tuning
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Here is the hymn Higher Ground played in noter drone style using a quill and reed noter. The dulcimer is a standard cherry McSpadden (without a 6 ) and the tuning is DAdA - the 4 strings set equidistant. Jean Ritchie used this set-up regularly and it gives a rich sound to drones whilst maintaining the clarity of the single melody string. The sound quality is pretty poor on my cheap camera - I n...
Ed Thomas Replica Mountain Dulcimer Coleman's March 24 Feb 13 Glentruim
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A short video shot on a cheap digital camera. The dulcimer is a replica of an Ed Thomas from about 1890 built by John Knopf. It is strung with piano wire and played with a quill and wood noter in traditional style. The tune is Coleman's March. The video location is the Glentruim Estate near Newtonmore in the Scottish Hoghlands.
Mountain Dulcimer advanced noter techniques
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This video shows some of the more advanced techniques for using a noter when playing mountain dulcimer. The dulcimer in the video is a replica of an Ed Thomas model from around 1890 - it was made by John Knopf. The noter is a piece of river reed, cut from our local river. The dulcimer is fitted with piano wire for strings and fretted with broom wire staples in the traditional diatonic pattern.
Mountain Dulcimer Thumb Strum Technique.wmv
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Strumming a dulcimer with your thumb is a traditional technique. This video is a short description of the style. Thumbing can add clarity to your melody line and a warm tone to your instrument.
Charles Prichard Reproduction Dulcimer - 15 Nov 12.wmv
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C.N Prichard dulcimer repro built by Kevin Messenger, WV. Kevin has done a wonderful job of producing this reproduction of a Prichard dulcimer from the late 1800s. For more information he can be contacted through the Friends of the Mountain Dulcimer web site.
Summertime - Ed Thomas dulcimer - example of thumbing technique.wmv
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A short example of using the 'thumbing' strum technique for playing noter drone dulcimer. The dulcimer is a replica of an Ed Thomas dulcimer c 1890 made by John Knopf.
Noter & Drone - common session keys and modes - Part B.wmv
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Technique for tuning a dulcimer for noter & drone playing in the common session keys and modes.
Noter & Drone - common session keys and modes - Part A.wmv
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This video covers how to tune a mountain dulcimer to the common old time session keys when playing in the traditional noter and drone style. Part A covers dulcimer set-up, key of D ionian and key of A mixolidian.
Holding the Noter - Mountain Dulcimer - 31a Mar 12.wmv
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A short lesson on holding a noter when playing the mountain dulcimer.
Ed Thomas Replica Mountain Dulcimer - 30 Mar 12.wmv
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A short video of my new Ed Thomas (1850-1933) replica dulcimer made by John Knopf of Westmoreland, Michigan. This is an exact replica of a poplar wood Ed Thomas and here I compare it to a contemporary mountain dulcimer. John Knopf has done a wonderful job of making this rustic, traditional instrument the way that ED Thomas made his. The body is a lot smaller narrower that you see on contemporar...
Coleman's March - Mountain Dulcimer - DAA Tuning - 19 March 12
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This pretty little old time tune is Coleman's March. I'm playing it on a cherry McSpadden mountain dulcimer in a traditional noter and drone style using a wood 'noter' to fret the tune on just the melody string and a stripped quill to strum. The tuning is D,A,A
Epinette des Vosges - 11 mar 12.wmv
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Playing an Epinette des Vosges made by John H Crocker
Mountain Dulcimer - Strumming with a Feather Quill
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Mountain Dulcimer - Strumming with a Feather Quill
Sally in the Garden - mountain dulcimer
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Sally in the Garden - mountain dulcimer
Galax Mountain Dulcimer and Flatfooting
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Galax Mountain Dulcimer and Flatfooting
Bird Rock Dulcimers - The Red Kite - sound sample - 27 May 11.wmv
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Bird Rock Dulcimers - The Red Kite - sound sample - 27 May 11.wmv
Bird Rock Dulcimers - Sweet Woods Student Dulcimer.wmv
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Bird Rock Dulcimers - Sweet Woods Student Dulcimer.wmv
Busker Tennessee Sound Clip - 28 Apr 11.wmv
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Busker Tennessee Sound Clip - 28 Apr 11.wmv
Bird Rock Dulcimers - McSpadden Sound Samples 2 apr 11.wmv
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Bird Rock Dulcimers - McSpadden Sound Samples 2 apr 11.wmv

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  • @TheWhiskeyCowboyLife
    @TheWhiskeyCowboyLife หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer equal temperament. And like with my guitar, I choose the entire range as I want. If it is a bit too sharp, I adjust, if too flat... the same. I don't have to worry about varying sharpness from note to note(s) or how I am choosing to tune my strings (DAD etc.).

  • @zinnybyro6701
    @zinnybyro6701 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You selling any just intonation dulcimer's?

  • @milnoid
    @milnoid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry I did not find this well-crafted presentation until eight years after it was posted!

  • @dawndare3949
    @dawndare3949 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you.

  • @sheilayoakum5713
    @sheilayoakum5713 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What kind of noter are you using?

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. The noter is a piece of dowel that they have in long lengths at many builders merchants. It's about 8mm diameter. I cut 8cm lengths. They wear quite quickly so it's worth buying a meter or more and cutting a whole bunch of them.

  • @lightningspirit2166
    @lightningspirit2166 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic ..!pure old world style....musical time machine ❤😊

  • @karlschulte9231
    @karlschulte9231 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How beautiful

  • @williamoakes4670
    @williamoakes4670 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a rank beginner, but I found a noter and pick that work for me. For a noter, I use a wooden carpenter's pencil. It is long and I can hold it in my hand. The shape of the pencil is rectangular so it slides easily and perfectly fits next to a fret. Google it! For a pick, I found that a wooden match works great for me. I cut off the sulfur tip and that's it! A box of wooden matches is pennies compared to a plastic or felt pick, both of which I have tried. Enjoying my adventure in Dulcimer-Land!

  • @janettehill8544
    @janettehill8544 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great demo. I think I understand what is going on now. I have made Dulcimers in the past, but My musical knowledge was much less then. I moved onto making Dobros. With a steel bar for a fretting instrument, this relationship is some what moot for me. It however still illuminating.

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, I used to play dobro in a bluegrass band. I still have a Rob Ikes Wechter/Scheernorn, although it doesn't get played much at present. I know that most dobro players, me included, tune the b strings (3rd of the scale) a little flat of equal temperament to sweeten the tuning. This is effectively pushing the instrument into just intonation - and, as you say, the fret positions are just a guide. The exact pitch of individual notes are basically selected by the player (like on a violin) - so I expect that many of us play in just intonation without even realising we are doing so - particularly if we are mimicking a sung phrase.

  • @rfw9889
    @rfw9889 ปีที่แล้ว

    A clear demonstration of an important topic, one we don't usually hear or think about but which is fundamental. Thank you!

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I think that just intonation is particularly interesting as it is the natural pitching that any maker of folk instruments, anywhere in the world, and at any point in history would have ended up. Only when instruments needed to modulate did the need for other temperaments arise.

  • @karlschulte9231
    @karlschulte9231 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome to USA! Or has the dulcimer made it back to Gr Brittain? Love the video. Mostly do noter. Captures the old time style best. Karl

  • @NMranchhand
    @NMranchhand ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great insight. Thanks.

  • @JDiaz21
    @JDiaz21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goodjob 🤠

  • @matthiaswilhelm9813
    @matthiaswilhelm9813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many Costs for a Dulcimer???you build self?I am a Keyboarder and repair Electro. Keyboards...

  • @matthiaswilhelm9813
    @matthiaswilhelm9813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow,Bach ist the Undertaker 💀💕for Pythagoran Tuning,5 Years Alcatraz🐒😂👍😂😆😆😆🐖💖

  • @karlschulte9231
    @karlschulte9231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So nice to see traditional noter playing. The chord guitar style is nice too but is truer to tradition.

  • @karlschulte9231
    @karlschulte9231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big fan of Jeanne. RIP.

  • @bearshield7138
    @bearshield7138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonderful sound

  • @bearshield7138
    @bearshield7138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    sweet job

  • @KorbyLenker
    @KorbyLenker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great ideas here thank you

  • @nidurnevets
    @nidurnevets 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My question is what type of intonation do violinists, and other string players, use as, of course, the player can adjust the intonation from note to note. Would string players be characterized as playing in a type of temperament?

    • @Buriaku
      @Buriaku ปีที่แล้ว

      They tend to adapt to other instruments to produce the most concordant sound. That means they tend towards just intonation intervals to other notes, when possible. Because it's hard to do by ear for scales, it's only approximate, of course. Similar things happen in choirs without accompanying instruments like in barbershop quartets.

  • @denisenadeau5243
    @denisenadeau5243 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful

  • @Melvorgazh
    @Melvorgazh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t play the Mountain Dulcimer but love the sound. I play the guitar though. Mostly flatpicking and backing Celtic dance tunes and songs but open to other genres. I live in Brussels, Belgium 🇧🇪 if anyone come around with such a lovely instrument feel free to contact me. Thanks uploader! Very interesting video. I am a big fan of Wendy Songe 😽 Regards

  • @juliaredifer2904
    @juliaredifer2904 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You for talking about the use of the noter and demonstration of techniques

  • @shawltraveler9365
    @shawltraveler9365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see you upload again. I love the old style dulcimer playing. Have a 1880s dulcimer, not sure who made it, but it's handmade.

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, The Nonsuch Dulcimer Club has uploaded to TH-cam a live seminar I did for them on the history and traditions of the mountain dulcimer last month: th-cam.com/video/GS9E0AsDf88/w-d-xo.html I'd love to see a photo of your 1880s dulcimer. Drop me a line at robin (at) dulcimers.co.uk

    • @shawltraveler9365
      @shawltraveler9365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@birdrockdulcimers my dulcimer used to have staple frets, but someone in time has replaced them to full frets. I got it for $50.00 at an antique store.

  • @nariseconnor7775
    @nariseconnor7775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s so cool! I also have a Homer Ledford dulcimer, I never realized he likely set the frets by ear.

  • @kimpark1656
    @kimpark1656 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Génial! J'adore! Great ! Wonderful! Thanks

  • @Cj-uq3kv
    @Cj-uq3kv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You so much! Is your dulcimer all ebony wood? It sure is beautiful.

  • @KC9UDX
    @KC9UDX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    13 people think dulcimers are stupid. "Guitar and synth are where it's at."

  • @mathias841
    @mathias841 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know why but I love the sound of this dulcimer more than the others

  • @SnowLashes
    @SnowLashes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that a felt pick?

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it is not felt It is a piece of boot leather. I got some off cuts from a local shoe repair shop and made some picks from the pieces.

    • @mathias841
      @mathias841 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@birdrockdulcimers i never heard about leather pick ! Thanks for the idea

  • @fo76
    @fo76 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, that's very helpful. Does probably not work in just intonation, does it?

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, it won't work perfectly on a dulcimer with the frets set for JI in Ionian. But mixolidian E,A,A and key of G D,d,d should be OK. It is just the minor keys where you'll have the most issues with intonation.

  • @allenlaturner479
    @allenlaturner479 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed that. Are you using a feather as a pick?

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Allen, Yes, I'm using the thick 'quill' end of a goose feather (or possibly a seagull feather I picked up on our local beach). Traditionally, the Kentucky and WV dulcimer players would have used this type of pick, or a swatch of wood os a similar size. The Virginia, MI and TN players would have tended to use the thin end of a goose feather to 'whip' across the strings. You will see some old dulcimers with strum hollows to accommodate using the thick of a feather end held vertically and others with no strum hollow that would have been played with the thin end of a feather whipped across the strings and held horizontally.

  • @jackshenhouse
    @jackshenhouse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your technique for keeping that #@&$! dulcimer from slipping off your lap...

  • @mikewoike9429
    @mikewoike9429 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have not seen this before but I'm very new at this. Thanks

  • @infernalmandolin
    @infernalmandolin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I’m still trying to get my head around these different “temperaments”. I think I understand the different fret placements and this helps when player the melody. But what effect does it have on chords, if any?

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Eric. It is a little complex to explain. Lets say we were tuned to DAA (D bass, A, middle, A melody). And lets concentrate just on the melody string for a moment. On a mountain dulcimer you would set the frets to start the major scale for the melody string at the 3rd fret. So from the 3rd fret your frets are placed do, re, mi, fa so la, ti, do and onward. The open melody string would sound the 5th of the scale (so), the first fret the 6th of the scale (la) and the second fret the 7th (ti). In just intonation the distance between the 5th and 6th notes of the scale is 182 cents. So the first fret is placed so that the melody string tuned to A would sound the B note 182 cents higher than the A. Now lets take the bass string tuned to D. On our dulcimer this string would normally act purely as a drone and never be fretted. However, if we do fret it at the first fret it will sound E at 182 cents above the D. But the note E on the melody string is played at the 4th fret, which, in just intonation is 204 cents above the D at the 3rd fret. So, if you set the frets on a mountain dulcimer in just intonation some of the bass string notes will not match the pitch of the melody string notes. This is why modern mountain dulcimers use equal temperament - every semitone is 100 cents apart - so the different strings will sound the same note at the appropriate fret. The advantage of just intonation is that the intervals are very natural when you play melody against drones - the note blends are perfect - a barbershop choir will sing in just intonation. The advantage of equal temperament is that you can play cords across the strings and it will sound OK (every note is just a little out of tune - but not enough to notice in a chord) - a piano is tuned to equal temperament. On the Heritage Dulcimer the first fret is in equal temperament but the rest in just intonation (or close to it).

  • @trevorboyd1570
    @trevorboyd1570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an old video but it explains things very clearly. Thank you.

  • @branandubh
    @branandubh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well presented and explained. Mean temperament sounds really interesting. I have to add that equal temperament is more acceptable when you're used to listening to it. When you keep away from it for a while it sounds brutal. My experience after studying Indian classical music for several years.

  • @Anonomush_oranges
    @Anonomush_oranges 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES! This is how you play a dulcimer. I am so sick of the fancy chords and fingers all over the place.

  • @Anonomush_oranges
    @Anonomush_oranges 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this recorded on a wax 78 rpm original and then duplicated 100 times? I don't know what the hell you are talking about anyway so goodbye.

  • @irie1tes
    @irie1tes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unintentional ASMR Video of the Year award goes to ....

    • @arieswaters
      @arieswaters 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what she is saying is that she can completely relax just by hearing the sound of your voice in this video.

  • @mayormoonshine
    @mayormoonshine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job....sound drew me in!.

  • @nusphere
    @nusphere 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a very interesting explanation. I didn't understand what you meant by playing 155 however, can you please explain?

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi. A 1-5-5 tuning is one where the bass string is tuned to the root note of a scale and the middle and melody strings are tuned to the 5th note of the same scale. So DAA or CGG would both be examples of 1-5-5 tunings on mountain dulcimer.

    • @nusphere
      @nusphere 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaaaaah thank you@@birdrockdulcimers :)

    • @joeldezwaan1149
      @joeldezwaan1149 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't believe you commented on a video you posted in 2016! Kudos and thanks for this very informative video!

    • @birdrockdulcimers
      @birdrockdulcimers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jay, Thanks for your comment, and a Happy Christmas! I'm very interested in temperament on Appalachian mountain dulcimers and fretted zithers from Europe so I try and keep an eye on this comment trail. The fretted zithers I make to play myself are set in just intonation and I've developed a new instrument for playing the old dance tunes and ballads from where I live in Wales. In the Welsh language the instrument is called a 'Bocs Can Idris' with a ^ over the letter a. It means 'Idris' Song Box'. Idris was a prince who fought a battle against the Irish on the slopes of the mountain above our valley. The instrument has two fretboards tuned a 4th apart and 7 sympathetic drones as well as 5 main drones. I have played a number of concerts with the instrument and was in our village's 12th century church playing for a Christmas concert on Sunday. Using just intonation for the fret pattern makes the melody sound very smooth against that collection of drones and means that notes like the 3rd and 6th of the scale blend without the need for chord changes.

  • @rickmcnelly
    @rickmcnelly 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very educational, thank you!

  • @BeyondF1
    @BeyondF1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful information, thank you.

  • @davidbrewer6231
    @davidbrewer6231 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you John, uncle Ed would have been pleased, I am inspired, I believe I have some spare wood laying around.

  • @bestbabylullabies
    @bestbabylullabies 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where has this instrument been all my life HA!