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Classic BattleTech - What to actually buy?!
Alternatively start out with the FREE Quick Start Rules:
bg.battletech.com/download/BTBB%20Online%20QSR%201-21c.pdf
Or an older QSR with way more mechs:
www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/3382/BattleTech-QuickStart-Rules-Classic-BattleTech
A CGL provided PDF of the A Game of Armored Combat rules:
www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/e9q2otjapw94gg4tlmrcg/A-Game-of-Armored-Combat-Rulebook-8th.pdf?rlkey=k8smra3ifgxzj4ahrzr0ivnsa&dl=0
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  • @connorjensen9699
    @connorjensen9699 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    >castle rat into the real preorder Man of impeccable taste. That band fucking rocks

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Finding "Fresh Fur" randomly was a great damned day.

  • @mathiasbartl903
    @mathiasbartl903 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buy some product, try to play it, download another thing, figure out what else you need or want with it, get comfortable.

  • @user-PyR064
    @user-PyR064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a Raven 3L, Bushwacker P2, Marauder 2R, Shadowhawk 2D2

  • @TheLawlessReaper
    @TheLawlessReaper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it might be overkill but I buy 2 of each box.

  • @frankbailey
    @frankbailey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm new to the game and really appreciated this video! I picked up the 40th anniversary Beginner Box and the Alpha Strike box to try both out so I have plenty of minis but I want the full classic rules. People have recommended Total Warfare but after hearing your review, I'll start with the PDF of A Game of Armored Combat. Thanks again!

  • @mcbhomis
    @mcbhomis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Clans ruined the table top game. Made for great lore, but the game balance was never as good after the Clan tech was introduced. Too much power creep.

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can always just plays Succession Wars era. I just finished up a pre-Helm campaign with a group of 8 and it was a blast.

    • @Guru_Swami
      @Guru_Swami 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% agree! Clans just took in a tough direction. Classic is just raw and gritty and that’s what hooked me on this games back in ‘89.

    • @kryptonianguest1903
      @kryptonianguest1903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These days, it's the Clans who struggle because their mechs just cost so much Battle Value.

  • @imcubanb2870
    @imcubanb2870 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Merauder's music player "Go into the water Live there Die there Live there Die there"

  • @billable1861
    @billable1861 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sold me on the manual I was wondering where to behin

  • @ObiwanNekody
    @ObiwanNekody 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rulebook and some mapsheets are all you need for CBT. Othello pieces with stickers make excellent unit markers.

  • @BasTop-y6f
    @BasTop-y6f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thx for this amazing video. Really helped me getting grip on the rules before my first game.

  • @kellynine7438
    @kellynine7438 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Battletech was my gateway drug to miniature wargames and high-complexity board gaming, but finding people to play with in college was difficult, and until this month I ihadn't played the tabletop game in 30 years. So happy to see the resurgence the game is seeing right now. And after years of 40k prices, being able to buy a full force for $25 is refreshing. As a side note, looking at the Beginner Box on the Catalyst website, the cover art is different now, but the contents appear to be the same. They may have updated the box art as part of the Mercenaries release push.

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, it's the 40th anniversary art that coincides with Mercs.

  • @ReelSpider
    @ReelSpider 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    googling the closest target store...

    • @ReelSpider
      @ReelSpider 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not available in stores, did you order online?

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got mine a while back.

  • @ReelSpider
    @ReelSpider 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Classic BattleTech was the most complex tabletop of it's time. So many things to keep track of, so many tables and charts, so many rules to read. I always wanted to build a smart table to display a map and do all the math, charts, heat scale, all of it, for you.

  • @crlewis6360
    @crlewis6360 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have original BattleTech, (AND a copy of BattleDroids the original name and rules for the first year it was out). Also tons of books from the next 20 or so years. All the real classic stuff. Made by Ral Partha and its adjuncts. Why do I need to upgrade to a whole new game? (and spend hundreds of dollars for the same rules). And hundreds of mech, vehicles, troops, and elementals (Back in the day when they cost about $2.5 and not the godawful prices set today).

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can just keep using the old stuff? Very little has changed, and it's all free errata.

  • @squizzlor
    @squizzlor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmm I cant leave any bad coments about Catalyst in short dont buy from them. This guy seems a shill Don’t buy Catalyst products but then pre owned, or PDF pre owned, printed. Iron Wind Metals are fine, Thats Ral Partha in the UK

  • @squizzlor
    @squizzlor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heavily disagree first off all don’t buy anything from Catalyst. You need 3 recorcess to play battletech. 1. The rulebook “Total Warfare” used or “used” pdf 2. Megamek a download from their website. This is one of the greatest community recorcess developed. From it you can print record sheets of any unit, and even search them through parameters like equipment or movement. (You can finally alot of interesting new toys this way!) megamek itself will alow you to play but does the rolling for you. Not a grest tool to learn but its other recourses such as sheets a mechlab, and even tools to run a campaighn are great! 3. Miniatures, Iron wind Metals known as Ral Partha overseas of the USA. Have all the old prints! And not a cent goes to catylist but instead straight to tops, otherwise I recommend printed minis or buying used!

    • @squizzlor
      @squizzlor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Id give further recorces for more advanced play, or RPGs but this guys chat seems pruned to a creepy degree…

    • @squizzlor
      @squizzlor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Beyond this point is for those looking for further rules or depth. Additional weapons and equipment beyond 3050 “special Operations” If you want to learn mech generation manual thus repair costs, the “Techmanual” is the recorce Mech maintenance time tables located: in “Campaign Operations” Again get these used or the pdf by alternate meens!

  • @cyanidecologne9018
    @cyanidecologne9018 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We started playing local a lot even alpha strike over magic on fridays. Your videos were great to help some friends and new players get the ball rolling / knowing where to start, thank you

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's so awesome to hear, thank you for letting me know!

  • @pelmen1294
    @pelmen1294 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The absoloute only reason to get the starter set is the map and the mechs. The best way to start is agoac as it has 8 mechs two maps and the actual rules for battletech.

  • @bwiggs13
    @bwiggs13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info! Ok so I have picked up AGOAC, essentials box, couple inner sphere force packs and BMM pdf. I want to play classic battletech with introtech inner sphere mechs. What other pdfs would you recommend to pick up for learning about each of the mechs I probably already have? TROs and rec guides are extremely confusing. Do I want Rec guide vol 1 classics? or succession wars TRO? Would succession wars record sheet pdf be helpful? thanks for any help!

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The successions wars TRO is a great spot to learn about all the mechs you are likely to have but not necessarily needed for gameplay- it's a fluff piece. The succession wars PDF sheets are an option but many players use either flechs or megamek to get their sheets (I'm a fan of flechs because they include hit tables and melee attack modifier). sheets.flechs.net/ megamek.org/

    • @bwiggs13
      @bwiggs13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I used a coupon code for Succession wars TRO and the record sheets.

    • @kellynine7438
      @kellynine7438 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bwiggs13 There's a website called Master Unit List that has a database of all the mechs and variants that have been published over the decades, which era they belong to, whether they rely on Introductory (introtech), Standard, Advanced, or Expirimental rules, and even which factions had access to them. The TRO is solid, but it doesn't have everything that's potentially available.

  • @brothersgt.grauwolff6716
    @brothersgt.grauwolff6716 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as someone who recently returned to Battletech after a 10 year hiatus I started with the two mech starter box (Griffin & Wolverine) and 2 force boxes 2 years ago I've found a good local group to play with and it's been good since

  • @eelzap
    @eelzap 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video but inquiring minds want to know... what's in the candy cab

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4 slot Neo Geo MVS. I usually keep it loaded with Mark of the Wolves, KOF 98, Metal Slug, and Baseball Stars 2.

  • @Tasarran
    @Tasarran 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found myself wanting to see what was in each box, rather than hear a rundown

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've had these for a while so the boxes don't have original contents any more. Some of them have maps, some of them are record sheet storage. There are plenty of box openings online :)

  • @MalakianM2S
    @MalakianM2S 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still have my 4 fasa boxes (Battletech, Reinforcements, Citytech and Aerotech, and the 3025 readout), but now that I'm falling in love again with the game and the universe after decades of not touching it at all, I'm really tempted with the new miniatures and rulesets.

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best part is that a good chunk of it has hardly changed :) Alpha Strike is worth checking out if you want to get a ton of minis on the table at once.

    • @MalakianM2S
      @MalakianM2S 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@weslaydragons749 I'll talk with my brothers and a couple of friends, we may be in for a ride. We really played the lights out of Battletech in the late 80s early 90s, good times, we got even Macross late in the evening in the tv, Robotech in my country. Thanks for all the info in the video, really nice content.

    • @MalakianM2S
      @MalakianM2S 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@weslaydragons749 My reply to your post got deleted somehow. I'll talk with my brother and some friends, we may be in for a revival. We played the lights out of the game back in the late 80s and early 90s, we had even Macross late in the evening in tv (Robotech in my country), good times. Thanks for all the info and the video, good content.

  • @crossmr
    @crossmr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    screw target exclusives. Somehow a store located in the US gets a global exclusive like that that can't be sold anywhere else.

    • @lorcannagle
      @lorcannagle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankfully the exclusive period seems to be coming to an end.

  • @TheRealGrimmshade
    @TheRealGrimmshade 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somehow wasn't aware of the Target exclusive Essentials box. Thanks for the heads up. I've been trying to get a Battlemech Manual for a while now, but they are sold out everywhere.

  • @scotthughes7208
    @scotthughes7208 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for spreading the word. 😉 Have been a fan of the classic for a very long time. I can still remember the 12 that nobody talks about.

  • @bruced648
    @bruced648 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    battletech has been using the same rules for 40 years. while 5 editions have been released, only a couple of clarifications have been made. if you are getting started, the 'A Game of Armored Combat' is the best value. it will teach everything you need to know for mech v mech combat. the only book you need to get, is 'Total Warfare'. it covers most of the other units used in the game (infantry, armor, vtol etc) these are currently being produced by CGL (Catalyst game labs). however, there are two older books that literally cover everything, including design and construction rules. both are from the 90s and available on ebay for less than the total warfare book. Fasa 1640 'battletech compendium'. and Fasa 1701 'battletech master rules'. these are far better layouts of the rules in a book about 1/3 the size of total warfare. as far as 'Clan invasion: Reinforcements' box. it's priced at $39.99, but CGL has had this on sale for $24.99, for over a year. it comes with 196 heavy card stock mechs. if you get the starter box or essentials box and use the $20 off code, this becomes $4.99. an absolute steal. the mech sheets are available online thu 'master unit list'. simply print and play. to save printer ink, many players put the sheet in a page protector and use dry-erase markers. this is a good overall vid for new players trying out this game!

  • @HauntedCorpseGaming
    @HauntedCorpseGaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video.

  • @NegTharayas16
    @NegTharayas16 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beginner boxes are good almost as a demo. After several games with QS rules, players are normally ready for the AGoAC rules. So either just foot in door or for younger players, or maybe time crunch situations where you still want to do classic. The lack of heat definitely means it favors energy mechs. If you consider that AGoAC is around $45, and Clan Invasion is $40, together they would be $85. If you can get Alphastrike box for $65 (pretty common) you get the same number of mechs with the same Clan/IS distribution, excluding the 2 "awkward" elemental points. But IS battle lance and IS command lance (forcepacks) are probably where the best vale is at ($3-4 per minature).

  • @timunderbakke8756
    @timunderbakke8756 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Game of Armored Combat should be your first purchase. The essentials and beginner boxes are solid for the new mech options. Clan Invasion box is good for those who want to expand to clans but not essential. Honestly AGoAC and the Beginner Box gets you going until you know more of what you actually want.

    • @squizzlor
      @squizzlor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely not Start with the primary rulebook, minis and Megamek these are the essentials! Ironwind metals is great, Ral Partha over sea

  • @GoastLincoln
    @GoastLincoln 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AGoAC, then battletech manual or total warfare if you intend to learn vehicles.

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vehicles and Infantry are such great additions, I'm hoping to do some future videos to help players break into using them. Combined arms adds a really fun layer.

    • @TheRealGrimmshade
      @TheRealGrimmshade 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@weslaydragons749Looking forward to that video!

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my opinion, you need the AGoAC box. The Essentials and Beginner Boxes are nice add-ons, since they have different 'mechs the AGoAC doesn't (Rifleman, Centurion, and the Vindicator from the new BB). After that, once you've learned the game's basics and want to go further, get the Total Warfare book and start looking at Force Packs that speak to you. I'll be getting the Alpha Strike box soon so I have a few Clan 'mechs on hand, and because I want to learn AS anyway. Also, in reference to your calling it a Timber Wolf instead of a Mad Cat, there are very few Clan units that I will call by their Inner Sphere name over their Clan name. But the main one is the Cauldron-Born. So much cooler than Ebon Jaguar.

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cauldron-Born sounds metal af.

    • @WolfHreda
      @WolfHreda 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@weslaydragons749 it _is_ metal af.

    • @palma3235
      @palma3235 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WolfHredaIn my case quite literally, putting one together now

  • @Subcomandante73
    @Subcomandante73 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a victim of the shipping scam on the latest Battletech kickstarer by Catalyst Game Labs I strongly suggest people do NOT support this company.

  • @Kingofdragons117
    @Kingofdragons117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Game of Armored Combat is the best to start with imo for the price. Though of the 3 Beginner/essentials box, the Vindicator one is the best imo. If you are starting out, start with 2 mechs per side. Lance on Lance or 4 v 4 is a daunting task for any newer player. My intro games usual involve 2 Medium mechs per side. Yea the BattleMech Manual is more streamlined compared to Total Warfare. Get both, but get the BMM first before total warfare. When you are ready for combined arms with vehicles and the like, go for the Total Warfare book.

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Getting the Vindicator is a solid deal, but the 20$ coupon plus the interesting maps in Essentials is also a steal, especially with it on clearance.

  • @bruced648
    @bruced648 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the Colorado battletech Discord?

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a discord channel for Battletech players located in Colorado ;)

  • @jdschauss
    @jdschauss 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can just buy the Alpha Strike Counters pack, which has all the roads, ponds, and buildings from the Alpha Strike game. All for the low, low, price of around twenty-five bucks.

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yep, and that's an excellent choice for those who want to make the purchase. Personally I find the roads and lakes from that pack too small. The buildings are great. But not everyone has an LGS near them or they may live in a country where the shipping is double the cost of the actual product.

    • @NegTharayas16
      @NegTharayas16 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, now it's typically $18, so if a local game store has it, pretty good. The extra tokens and trees are nice as well.

  • @jacksax2006
    @jacksax2006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your idea to make bases for these buildings that represent rubble once the building is destroyed.

  • @chinglee
    @chinglee ปีที่แล้ว

    "If you are not playing the game, the you are still not playing the game." Love that quote.

  • @sentientbean1
    @sentientbean1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @timothyarmstrong5058
    @timothyarmstrong5058 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best part about this video is that you have shown so many people that you can start from nearly anything just to play. A very good video explanation and break down!

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! That was my goal :) So many videos out there that advertise cheap or free seem to assume that everyone owns a 3D printer. Wargaming is something that everyone can do with stuff around the house :)

  • @terrencegregory3587
    @terrencegregory3587 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please tell me what you used for terrain. Like what to buy? It looks like you have just glued felt onto cardboard cut out pieces?

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 ปีที่แล้ว

      So for this terrain I glued some hobby foam to some chipboard. Felt is another great choice (and I still use it with my larger setups, as do a lot of people in my area who play). But you can also just cut out some colored construction paper.

  • @maistromanuel
    @maistromanuel ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks so so so so much!, is really hard to find well explained tutorials for this game and i love how you take your time to show us all the core rules and how the game works, i want to show this game for friends and this help me a lot how to deal with the basics, thanks so much and greetings from Mexico!

  • @madmusial
    @madmusial ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed the videos man hope you post more. Thank you

  • @madmusial
    @madmusial ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great break down thank you

  • @madmusial
    @madmusial ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a fantastic breakdown. Thank you so much.

  • @scotteverroad4545
    @scotteverroad4545 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have the book, but no time to read it! Just asking: does facing matter? I mean no armor diagram! so No? and everything can see 360-unless blocking LOS to Target? a simple Yay! or Nay will suffice! Still decing to get into this part of BT. TY For your time!

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facing matters less in AS. Everything in front of the mech's rear hex line is considered to be in their firing arc. If firing into the back of the mech (center to center, it passes through the rear hex line) an additional point of damage is done. So it certainly matters, it's just not as granular as it is in Classic.

  • @vladojokic
    @vladojokic ปีที่แล้ว

    It's really helpful to see this played through. Thanks for taking the time

  • @joshblack2362
    @joshblack2362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to more battletech video uploads in the future! Earned a sub and I couldn’t be happier!

  • @theturkeyden7438
    @theturkeyden7438 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Synthwave came in hard at one point and im not gonna lie i didnt pay attention to the hatchetman details but damn. video was great, i played a game of armored combat a couple of weeks ago, been dying to use my Alpha strike command book i bought soon haha (Building upto 500 PV Jade Falcons right now)

    • @weslaydragons749
      @weslaydragons749 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the Jade Falcons. If you're going Clan you might as well go full crazy :D