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Eddie Padilla
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2014
M272 & M273 Engine -Balance Shaft Installation and Timing
M272 & M273 Engine Repair Tips is a video-based information source in five parts. The Repair Tips provide basic information concerning disassembly and reassembly of the M272 and M273 engines. Short video sections also help in identifying a camshaft timing problem or verifying proper operation following repairs.
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horrible task
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just made this without removing engine from car :) balance shaft was ok. never again! thanks for video
I used to know an Eddie & Bonnie Padilla, children of Sandy & Tony Padilla on W. River Rd in Tucson. I think you're too young to be That Eddie. Anyway, this short doesn't cover how to replace it. When I saw another video by Peter Finn the car doctor it was a different type of filter whereas the one you're displaying is the type I want. Just need the how-to for a 2001 Toyota Corolla.
The one in Peter's video is the 'filter sock' or a screen. Similar to the oil pickup tube screen. The one in my video is the actual filter and you can get the instructions from Toyotas website but you will have to pay for a daily, week, monthly or yearly subscription. Paywalls everywhere.
❤ thanks so much
Excellent Video
I'm taking off my right cylinder head currently and i have taken out all of the cylinder head bolts, and i was wondering even if i hadn't taken off my exhaust manifold yet, shouldn't i still be still be able to lift my cylinder head? or is the only thing stopping me the exhaust manifold bolts
It's been a few years since I completed this job so my memory is a bit fuzzy but I recall there being a bracket that's bolted to the head and a single bolt with a spring that secured the exhaust pipe. I believe there's an engine ground that's bolted to one of the cylinder heads too--maybe.
do you remeber if the bottom of the timing cover is held on by bolts inside the oil pan? @@eddiepadilla1078
The comedic start was a riot 🤣🤣
Excelente video amigo gracias
Wow , a very professional guide, god bless you sir. 10 out of 10.
I'm convinced that this job is for a Mercedes qualified mechanic; not for home mechanic without proper Benz tools.
I get the feeling your not a mechanic nor do you know how to work on things. You don't need fancy software although it does help it is not required for this job. Personally, I would invest in a arbor press if you already don't have one. But, I used 8d nails to lock the cam sprockets and studs as alignment dowels for the timing cover. The only tool I needed to buy was an swiveled e8 on a 1/4 drive. Everything else is up to your skill level. Hone your skills or pay the professionals is your insecure.
@@eddiepadilla1078facts. Don’t get mad because daddy didn’t teach you how to use a wrench
Very usfull
Had the balance shaft start to go out on my 06 r350, so I got the engine from a 2010 GLK350 and replaced it, about to buy an 06 c350 with a bad engine, and replace the balance shaft on the m272 from my r350 and put it in there, I believe if I pin and remove the cam gears this should be a pretty straight forward job
M273 dont have balance shaft
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Help! Please, First Thank you for the Video, Unfortunately like many videos the orientation of the Balance Sprocket is not specified. My 19 year old son have torn down his M273 in my work area and he has removed the carbon behind the rings and performed a valve job and now we are stuck reassembling. How does the Balance Sprocket go in in relation to the copper link on the chain. There are not three lines on our sprocket, just weights, a mark on the weight and a part number. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You!
Weights? Are you working with a m273 with a balance shaft sprocket or just one that has an idler sprocket in place of the balance shaft sprocket?
@@eddiepadilla1078 The M273. It does not have a balance shaft. It has a sprocket. Idler, as you say. But it does have weights on it. recently I've been told it has no orientation and the weights are to balance the sprocket, not the engine.
@@localsource what is the part number for the sprocket?
Very goood! Thx
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Hello I hope that someone can help me with this. When aligning the right intake camshaft sprocket the R with the arrow, would the arrow be in the middle of the copper link. Assuming the letter W would the arrow be in the middle of that W like V^V the symbol ^ would be the arrow that is at the end of the R.
Hi Mohamed, great question. The imaginary arrow sits in front of the R and should point to the beginning of the link.
@@eddiepadilla1078 perfect thank you so much that makes sense. That means the middle of the R would line up with the middle of the link?
@@mohamedzeineldin4998 Correct
Man you are awesome, thank you for replying!! Couple of last questions if you may! I have the M273 engine with the idler sprocket instead of the balance shaft. I have the 4 markings on the chain for each sprocket, the one by the idler gear I can’t find anything to line it up to on the gear itself. It is just touching the idler gear though, is that good enough? And when you assembled the engine, you connected the chain to the crankshaft gear and then installed the timing cover. When moving the chain up top to line up the links on each sprocket. How would verify that the chain is still connected on crankshaft gear in the right place and has not moved?
@@mohamedzeineldin4998 if you have an idler sprocket and no mass to counterbalance then the idler is there only to help direct the chain and doesn't need to be timed. You will need to rotate the engine 2 complete revolutions and recheck the all the timing marks. You can still see the chain with the timing cover installed as long as the harmonic balancer is not installed.
Mercedes became the laughing stock of the car industry because of problems like this ...
You sound goofy the n63 engine for bmw and 2.0t for vw are abominations. Both are way worse then anything MB put out. You're talking out your butt!
So I'm gonna be attempting to do this myself and what not, it's a personal project because it's my dads car and I want to make him proud of me so if there is anyone that is wiling to talk and assist I would love that much love to you all ❤❤
I am doing one right now!
my Toyota Corolla is shaking while idle misfires while idle, and when I try to press the gas increasing rpm it shuts off/stalls around 2000 rpm. changed the battery spark plugs, wires, distributor cap fuel pump. do you think it could be my fuel filter or fuel injectors?
Its hard to say without having tools on the vehicle but it sounds like your describing 1) timing issue or 2) a fuel filter issue. You can bring your engine to tdc and check all your marks, which is free, then if the marks line up you could change your filter since you don't have tools either. Best of luck
@@eddiepadilla1078 yeah this vehicle is weird when I plug in a scan tool it shows nothing. I want to pay to change it but want to be sure it is the fuel filter. Timing belt is also the main project I want to fix but I can't drive to a mechanic unless I pay for a tow. Anyways thanks for the quick response!
@@Zer0thehero117 you're welcome. I wanted to mention that an odb scanner only looks for emission compliant codes that are feed to it by the manufacturers system. Its more than likely that the manufactures codes will show an error if you use the Toyota tis with a j2534 compliant adapter.
Is this happened because of code P0012?
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Super Video
thank u
I have to pull the freaking engine because Mercedes can't make a gear correctly?
Hi My 2006 C230 V6 2.5 M272 is making a constant ticking noise once the engine revs anything above idle. While driving the sound goes away if I take my foot of the accelerator. It sounds like the noise is coming from the left cylinder top, somewhere in the front. Does someone have an idea what could be the issue?
It's a good & useful video,so any other videos for M274 engine,tks!
Help I replaced all these parts and now my car only cranks several times before it actually starts. I took everything apart and double checked everything was put on correctly and snug and surely everything was. But I’m not sure what’s the issue now.
Quick question, did you bleed you're line after the install but before the first start?
@@eddiepadilla1078 I primed it maybe 3 times before starting. Is that what you mean ?
@@mosthated8190Sorry, yes correct--prime. Have you checked the fuel pressure and the pumps voltage?
@@eddiepadilla1078 no I haven’t checked I’m not a mechanic and don’t have those special tools to check for those things. This job has turned into a nightmare
@@mosthated8190 yeah, Im sorry I cant help you any further.
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I have a question for you. I have Mercedes Benz r350 v6 cylinder 6 has a misfire. I replaced the air intake manifold I saw the intake valve filled up with oil. There is a way I can fix valve stem seal without removing the head off. Please let me know the best option
Yes, you can pressurize the cylinders with air to hold the valves in-place as you replace the stem seals but I would not exceed 5 psi if you do that. Before you go that route you what to check your compression first to ensure you dont have blowby that is leaking oil into your intake as leaky stem seals typically manifest as a blue tined smoke exiting the exhaust, whereas, excessive blowby will manifest as excessive oil in the intake/pcv system. Hope this helps.
@@eddiepadilla1078 ok Eddie thank you for the answer. But do I have to remove the camshaft and release the timing
@@Godisablebraketechnicianasecer unfortunately, yes you'll have to remove the cams and timing cover.
Hi eEdd I got blew by
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Thanks a lot for the great information
Wow. I replaced a clutch in a Fiat Spyder when I was a kid and ah remember that the lowest point on that car was the oil pan only less than a foot from concrete. That was pretty simple but need to jack the engine up a bit to do it. This process is clearly beyond my tolerance level. It seems like the M272 is of poor design. Why would the chain hang in my opinion? The chain needs to react to stressors I assume but keeping it inline per a lifecycle of an engine seems poor design per my take on it. Yes, I have the M272 balance shaft repair per 77K miles on my SLK 350. I'm hoping MBUSA will do something. Its clearly a problem with that engine at that time. A class action suit was launched that paid for most repairs but I'm beyond the 10 year mark but with 77K miles. A 60K car should not be toast at 77K miles. It just seems to me that replacing the balance shaft would not repair damage made by metal fragments circulating throughout the engine. MB also suggested the same when I learned of the class action effort years ago. A new engine would be needed. They also suggested that we do not see many of those models around anymore.
100 000? i don't think so. these engines on the video are V6 engines, they need replacement sprockets but not the V8 .R172 engines. these V6 engines are problematic yes. M152 and M157 don't need that sprocket and chain replacement that often. The Mercedes-Benz M273 engine is a V8 automobile piston engine family used in the 2000s. It was based on the similar M272 V6 introduced in 2004.
Why do you put the timing cover on before the cam gears?
It can be a bit difficult if you tried to install the cover without the gears because the chain gets in the way and the last thing you want is a lightly oiled chain touching a clean, degrease mating surface with a bead of silicone--good way to compromise your gasket if not.
Thanks for showing the timing procedure. In M273 V8 engine there is no blance shaft because there is no need of balancin cross plane V8 with natural 90degree V angle, int this place there is only gear that tennsions timing chain. The balance shaft is only in M272 V6 engines whres Mercedes applied unnaturla V angle 90 degree and too soft steel for timming gears
That is true, but the 273 V8 has an “idler gear” in the same location (just the sprocket without the internal balance shaft), which suffered from the same wear issue as the balance shaft sprocket. Sadly, since it’s based on the 272 V6, the same thing happens when it fails, the chain can skip, stretch, and wreck the valve train.
@@existentiallychallenged5068 Exactly. M273 is just M272 with 2 extra cylinders. There was no inherent need for the idler gear, but not putting one would have needed designing a whole new engine
Thank you Eddie Padilla.
Awesome video,do you have one for the m112 engine?
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Great upload thank you. These engines are a joke completely over engineered. Money pits.
More like, engineered to fail aka planned obsolescence. I mean, who puts plastic inside a hot engine.
Was the fuel pressure better ? It is good to go after the fuel filter too? Thoughts?
The fuel filter should be replaced every 60k to maximize pump life, bit, if your pump has gone out then you WILL need to replace the filter with the new pump
What's the specified torque?
It's been awhile and I don't have those valves anymore. You'll have to go to MB Star Access and get the values from them. It cost and it's difficult to navigate but you can fine all the torque values there.
@@eddiepadilla1078 thanks Eddie.
Interesting video. Cant help thinking, thats some fancy engineering for 250ish HP. Even if the reason is a smooth running motor it feels a bit overengineered?
Over engineered to fail and drain your wallet.
Really good video. Thank you.