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Which Demons in Persona 2 Innocent Sin Are Homophobic?
Just which demons in Innocent Sin are homophobic? I wanted to find out.
This is my first time ever even touching any sort of video editing, so forgive any weirdness
This is my first time ever even touching any sort of video editing, so forgive any weirdness
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This is Artemis. She is currently 9 months old and one of her favorite activities is playing fetch. She is a very cute kitten and I love her very much.
This is such a funny question. I really liked your discussion at the end, I had no idea about the cut or hinted at romance options in 4 and 5. Would love a more romantically diverse entry in the franchise
Nekomata also has a line in response to the Tatsujun contact that says "I see this all the time in manga! I never knew it really happened in real life!" so yeah she's totally a fujoshi lol. I don't know if she says that to the other possible couple contacts as well tho.
Say what you will on Tatsuya x Jun or the rocky progressive legacy Persona 2 has, I sincerely hope relationships influences demon dialogue in future MegaTen games even if on a level like this.
thanks for the video
What, no love for Joker x Ryuji? Certified Best Boy Ryuji?
Now this is real research
Oh wow this looks like a good shitpost.......... WHY ITS 40mins?
absolutely unhinged video, thank you for your documentation
lol 3:58 = Nigeria's response
"doggy!! ...doggy is homophobic" i was wondering if anyone did this lol... thank you for this important investigative work
I love this group so much
this experiment is even funnier if you contextualise it in the game. like tatsuya just says "guys lets go grind in the abandoned factory" and then spends the entire time flirting with jun in front of demons.
that's what i call a perfect scientific research
I doubt that the reason some Demons are angry is simply because they are being ignored. Anyway, Jun is so cute! If I were Tatsuya, I would choose him.
Great video, thanks for compiling all of these 💜 (Also love the commentary)
Jack frost being homofobic is completly on brand
amazing video i fucking love tatsujun thank you
LOL who gives a shit about this non-issue? 😂😂😂
Jack Frost doesn't seem homophobic. He seems confused/intrigued, like he's never met a gay couple before.
Mekomata is a fujoshi???
How is Agathion homophobic? You literally walked up and initiated this sequence, he would've been chill if you didn't do that. Besides he would've done this with anyone that makes him a self centered ass, is applies to everyone not just jun and tatsuya.
This is the real persona content i want
I wonder if lilim is homophobic because she cant seduce them if theyre into men
All of them actually
I can't tell if you're extremely over sensitive or you are joking the entire time because of your voice
Best 40 minutes of my life
Great video but technically p3p has two female romances for the femc
I like that the angels are the most homophobic 😂
I think this is the most important journalism I have ever seen. Thank you for your service,.
The rumors are that both P2 and P4 are getting remakes, wonder if they add more demons if the new demons will be less homophobic. Also hope they add more flashbacks that are optional so that we can see more similar stuff to the wedding store flashback
@@masureiiiii they refused to add femc to p3 cause that would mean rewriting the answer since Shinji can survive. They will not go out of their way to deleting the romance cause that would mean rewritting alot of his character
we're slowly getting better in terms of progressiveness in modern persona times at least! they removed the transphobic scene in persona 3 reload, so we're getting somewhere at least :D i appreciate the work you put into this video. it definitely could have been a short and sweet presentation of the results, but the additional commentary and discussion of queer representation in the games really elevated it to a thoughtful discussion. even if not created for the right reasons, persona 2's lgbt rep in 1999 is still powerful to this day. i hope going forward we can tell better stories about gender and sexuality in the persona series now that we have a new director.
Oh yes! I've been playing through Reload after not letting myself get spoiled for any of the new/updated things and I was pleasantly surprised by that change (makes it kind of a funny scene now too) And thank you! I feel like it's something that should get discussed more - tbh I could talk about Yosuke in regards to that for a while lmao. I am genuinely curious what they're going to do in Persona 6. I know that there's a difference in progressiveness when it comes to same sex couples in the west versus in Japan (I'm definitely not an expert on that front though), but I think they've come to realize that the games are also popular to western audiences and I'm interested to see if that has an affect on what they decide to include in the games
That akward moment when persona 2 & 3 have more lgbt character than yourr modern game.
they just like me fr
Love the thumbnail. We all know Jun and Tatsuya is canon.
I need to finish this game
All of them
Maya X Tatsuya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jun x Tatsuya.
Maya x Tatsuya is illegal because Maya is 25 and Tatsuya is 17. Maya is an adult in both IS and EP.
@@KrimsonKattYT Maya is *25*!? She acts like she's 12
@@hjt091She is actually 23 in Innocent sin, she is 25 in Eternal punishment
Maya is more like a big sister honestly
Well no
Persona 2 IS' demons could be then categorized as: Allies, Clueless but supportive, Utterly clueless, Homophobic, Jack Frost, and Christians.
Note: "Demon King" is the nickname of Oda Nobunaga, what makes this funnier is that "Rokuten Maou", Kanji's ultimate Persona in P4 is also supposed to be Oda Nobunaga.
All of them. They all hate humans
Satyr is definitely homophobic. Satyr is totally the type to be like “It’s fine as long as it’s not around me” Satyr literally tells u to keep it a secret 😢
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 no, that’s not what I mean but it’s okay
So not only are demons less homophobic, they are more likely to be gay which correlates with the fact more people are now openly identifying as lgbt+. Makes sense @@anubis7457
Technically P2 isn’t the only game to have a LGBTQ romance , if you’re playing as the female protagonist Kotone in p3 you can romance Elizabeth and Aigis
How do you romance Elizabeth? Doesn’t she get replaced with the dude?
Ok honest question, do you think Hitler would be on team #loveislove?
I mean, real life Hitler, definitely not lmao. He famously did not like gay people. Nyarlethotep Hitler though... I think he'd have the same opinion as the demons who were like 'humans will die off faster this way'
Hitler was extremely homophobic, so no. He was a homeless starving artist in Munich post-WW1 and had to do homosexual sex work against his will in order to pay for food, which along with the rising fascist sentiments in Munich radicalized him into the monster we now know. Didn't help that both the people who denied him from art school, which contributed to his poverty, and the rich people who he was forced to sell himself to, both so happened to be Jewish, leading to Hitler to delusionally believe that all Jews were out to get him and were "sexual degenerates." He believed that the whole war was a conspiracy so that Jewish people could make the German people poor and enslave them because they were the only ones with wealth post-WW1, which was actually because of their smart investments and lucrative multi-national banking jobs and not some crazy conspiracy. Hitler was not only an anti-semite, but also a crazy conspiracy theorist and radical homophobe because of his negative experiences shaping his world view. If even just one of various factors in Hitler's life was different, WW2 would have never happened and Japan would rule the entire world minus America which would be a theocratic hellhole. Hitler was a false antichrist set up by God in order to steer the worldline away from Japanese world domination, similar to how Cain was set up to kill Abel in order to become the first murderer and martyr.
He literally had gay men as a part of the holocaust
Insane video (affectionate)
You would think the actual demons would be more accepting
I mean, based off of the like Christian definition of what demons are, yes, but the SMT and Persona demons are a result of the collective unconsciousness, so are therefore reminiscent of human feelings and perception. If you look at it that way, the numbers actually make a lot of sense I think!
@@quil72 oh ok
@@quil72Christain demons aren't allies, they're nilhilistic embodiments of evil and non-existence. They don't support gay rights, they support NO rights. The more evil and injustice there is in the world, the stronger they grow. They despise existance itself, everything God has created, and seek to return everything into nothingness. Since God created gay people and everything God created is good, demons and the forces of darkness hate gay people, but that won't stop them from manipulating both sides (getting gay people to abandon and hate God and getting false prophets to hate God's children) to gain power and influence.
Most pagan religions were not accepting of homosexuality so that should answer your question.
The demons of pagan religions are not accepting of homosexuality too???
i can't wait to watch this 40 minute video as soon as i get the time. this is sure to enrich my life in innumerable ways! :_D
I spend way too much time to do thing like this on my innocent sin playthrough. Truly ahead of their times
Wow, Jack Frost really IS atlus’s representative!
Jack Frost is Hashino's Persona
this is awesome, now we can truly sort out every demon in a tier list with this extra variable to factor them in
Honestly, a pretty important factor, I think lmao