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What part is rubbish? Im Irish and live in Ireland too

It pre-dates the formalized, Catholic Church, doesn't it? Being of Protestant stock myself, for several generations now, this part always, gives me mixed feelings, as I have a lot of issues with the history and practices of the Catholic Church. So, why not call it simply, the Irish Church then, and drop the Catholic part, altogether?

Like what?

@BrighaMedia the origin of travellers, the name of the language and customs traditions and ways It's a nice piece but not well enough researched

@ How is Shelta not the name of our language? I said nothing definitive about our origin, just suggestions which are debate amongst which families you ask. Also where am I wrong about our customs or traditions? Not having a go I am genuinely intrigued about how you've found this to be factually incorrect.

@@BrighaMedia is your dill minkla

Same as krays English romanys

@@williamwootton9458 yeah he also has Irish traveller roots, his dad's Irish

The Shelby Family is a small and wealthy family originating in Birmingham, England, Irish on their father's side and Romany-Gypsy on their mother's side. The lee family are Irish traveller side

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To be honest, that wasnt intentional. Its something whole heartedly agree with you on but I was just trying to put the focus on their history specifically. I'll make another about the genicide. But fair point and I am Irish!

Stop moaning and take that chip of your shoulder , that’s all you ever do.

It's funny because most British, even today, can't seem to face the facts of this part of their history, not just, what they did in Ireland, but worldwide, as well.

@@BrighaMedia It was the unjust discrimination against Catholics that was mainly responsible for the tragedy of the potatoe famine and the many avoidable deaths from starvation.

You coming to take away all the paddies in Arlington house? I agree with you completely about imperialism. I'm pretty sure though that Cromwell and invasion was mentioned and not just a wee bit of hunger!

It's something I just looked into and was stunned by honestly. It's something ive noticed when learning about remote indigenous countrys and cultures even on the most hard to reach places, the British impact always played into their demise. Even when they didnt mean to do so.

@ Let’s not just say the British empire, all of them carried out unethical acts, particularly in the last half century of the imperial period. If we study the behaviour of the French in North Africa, the Spanish and Portuguese in South and central America. The North American Spanish and French colonies had been ceded long before but also were punctuated with brutality. We (The Third Estate) globally are living with the consequences of that period. It is the taxes of the ordinary folks that pay for the elites’ business excesses and our lives that are sacrificed on the alter of their bloody war business. A business is what it is, the profits of which are paid by our sweat , blood and misery. Why are these vile creatures allowed to continue doing what they do?

You’ve raised a really compelling point, and I completely agree-it wasn’t just the British Empire. The French in North Africa, the Spanish and Portuguese in South America, and so many others left behind legacies of exploitation and brutality. The consequences of those empires are still with us, shaping the world we live in today. Your mention of the 'Third Estate' really hits home. It’s true-ordinary people have always been the ones to pay the price, whether through taxes, war, or labor. The elites have built their fortunes on the backs of the many, and those same systems of power and exploitation didn’t just disappear when the empires fell; they evolved. As for why these people-these elites-are allowed to keep doing what they do, I think it comes down to the systems they’ve built to protect themselves. They’ve normalized inequality and distracted us from questioning the structures that sustain them. Your perspective is powerful, and it’s a reminder of how important it is to keep studying and exposing these histories. It’s not just about understanding the past-it’s about challenging the forces that are still at play today.

I challenge you to tell me why this is revisionism? This is just uncomfortable history being spotlighted

@@BrighaMedia Uncomfortable history is then, now and tomorrow. It happens all the time. Gaza,Yemen,Ukraine,Syria etc etc. This is yet another pile-on of the British Empire who at least left behind a legacy of common law, a functioning democracy, a civil service, a judicial system and the abolishment of slavery. Of course it was not perfect...they never are. How about how the Romans conquered and enslaved or the Mongol armies or the Spanish in the Americas...shit happens and is happening right now.

I actually agree with you. I do believe that the things you mentioned are positive contributions made by the British, but why does that mean we can't also talk about the bad things? Perhaps it's the juxtaposition of both the good and the evil done by the complex British Empire that is so compelling. Like you said, they did have higher moral standards compared to other empires, which is why it’s such a difficult thing to digest when we here about acts like this. Do you feel like people are pilling on the British Empire?