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I think that this is a good alternative to the xbox one series controllers both in price point and quality. That being said, it isn't quite cheap. If you are looking for something that you can get a few of for party games or such, I would probably get the wired version of this controller (for PC play). If you are looking for a replacement controller and are used to the xbox form factor, I think this controller will last you far longer than getting any other controller. hope this helps, check out the pinned comment i put or reply to this if you have any other questions or comments. if money is a big factor, I would still lean towards an 8BitDo controller but just get the wired version and save your money if you don't mind the wired aspect / don't need the wireless capabilities.

Hello! I have got to say I don't quite get what white noise you are referencing about with the g7se (since i've never used it nor looked into that controller) and if that is supposed to be a feature or an issue with that controller but I just turned on my xbox after it laid dormant in the corner of my room for probably over a year now and put on one of my favorite tracks from daft punk on youtube and it sounded perfectly fine to me. Just want to say this as well since other comments also have questions similar, yes it is wired only to Xbox but thats just the case with Xbox not allowing 3rd party controllers direct connect to them. pretty sure you already know since you are using the g7se. I used my "studio" quality HD58X Jubilee Headphones and didn't hear any audible distortions while plugged into the controller, sounds fine to me just like if you were to plug it into a computer aux jack That in mind, you cannot use the aux jack while wireless, atleast I think so through 2.4g mode if on PC. unsure if Bluetooth works but I highly doubt it as going wired doesn't recognize the controller and subsequently the jack on the controller as an audio output so if you were thinking about using the controller on PC for audio as well, unfortunately it seems not possible. hopes this helps and feel free to reply back if you have any other questions. worse comes to worse, try the controller and if you don't like it or seems not to satisfy your needs, return it for free.

@@snooie thx bro

yo! I personally can't say much about how this controller compares to the quality of a ps4 controller just because I have actually never used a PlayStation 4 controller (nor played on one). That being said, I have extensive time on an Xbox One controller, and the 8BitDo controller feels more refined than the Xbox standard. It copys and improves on the xbox controller's aging hardware and is built to last and be the "perfect" controller (xbox controller users on PC). I can't say how long the controller will last you as It is a little crazy to hear a ps4 controller develop stick drift in 4 months so maybe you rack a lot of hours on the controller pretty fast but from the previous versions of the 8BitDo Ultimate controller reviews, the quality and performance have been lasting (part in due with the hall effect thumbstick modules, better technology and hardware compared to the potentiometers in the PS and Xbox controllers) them for quite some time. hope this helps and feel free to reply with any more questions or concerns. The best way to find out if this controller is suitable for you is to just try it out and return it if it doesn't feel right. I've heard about the Guillikit controller and Fly something but 8BitDo have just had a good run with their Ultimate series so hearing about an xbox version made me pick it over the others and so far its worth it for me.

Triggers are indeed hall-effect, this is mentioned on updated description on store page. I'm interesting in bluetooth connection, back buttons and impulse triggers support in different modes. Bluetooth is a simple Xbox-xinput mode? Does impulse triggers works with 2.4G connection or wired/bluetooth (usual) only? Can you remap back buttons in every mode?

impulse triggers work with 2.4G but I cant say for sure with bluetooth as I have no way of testing it (i don't have a bluetooth module) the controller has 3 user profiles that they can save to and a default one (cycles through any and all loaded profiles), you can rebind/map any and all buttons on each individual profile. I would assume that the loaded profiles on the controller would be usable regardless of the connection method. only thing that i would like to see 8bitdo is release thumbstick "sensitivity" like how xbox has it but honestly i dont mind it at all. just would be neat.

yeah, you can use the controller using bluetooth connection to PC

@@snooie does the mute switch actually work on pc

no, I believe that the aux and mute switch dont work on PC, maybe its something you can do in the software but I haven't checked. Windows doesn't detect the controller as a sound output though so my guess is its a no. do xbox controllers usually have audio capabilities? maybe its only on bluetooth if not.

yo. yes, you can play wirelessly 2 ways. the controller has 3 modes of connection (Ultimate "3-mode") for PC play: wired, 2.4Ghz (connected with receiver usb that you saw), and bluetooth. albeit you should use the usb when possible as you get less latency but if you are on the go or using your controller at a friend's house or something, the controller has bluetooth so you can leave the receiver at home and pair to whatever you are going to play on without needing to bring it along with you it. hope my response helped you!

I understand, if i thought of getting this to use as a 3rd party Xbox controller (with the Xbox), i wouldn't. It sucks that it's even licensed by Microsoft to work with the Xbox but not be wireless. if i really wanted a better Xbox controller, only thing I could think of is the elite series and even they are overpriced. Just sucks for Xbox users looking for alternative Xbox controllers. For me i only got this because I wanted a better Xbox controller for PC that has both 2.4G + Bluetooth if i didn't want to use the dongle on my laptop or at a friend's house but i feel your frustrations with it being wired only for Xbox. I can only blame Xbox for gatekeeping their tech to even officially licensed brand collaborations.

@@snooie with you on that 100%, I already had 2 Ultimate controllers with the Hall Effect sticks, no complaints and highly recommended… bought these off the strength of the previous experiences, also used on Switch wirelessly.. this was the biggest miss I’ve seen in a long time and I missed it in the marketing. White one on Amazon doesn’t really show wires period in the pictures.

Yeah i get you, they should have made it clear that despite it being quite literally officially licensed by Microsoft/Xbox, it still lacks wireless capability with the Xbox itself. Which ever side limited connectivity with the Xbox is definitely to blame for the marketing as collateral (i would say it's Xbox as even other Xbox licensed controllers are also only wired). I don't think a 3rd party company would intentionally cripple their own products even though it's advertised to be in affiliation with a bigger brand. I'm happy that you were able to get your money back and they should for sure make it clear that it's wired only as with many other 3rd party Xbox controllers for the Xbox. Hopefully 8bitdo reorders their info page or Xbox make their connectivity tech available to other 3rd party companies.

Seems to be a regular membrane

unfortunately no if that is what you are looking for, feels like membrane to me, just like an Xbox controller

yo! Ive been using it for the past few days since unboxing it and it is much better (coming from an Xbox controller user) than the "stock" Ultimate. The dpad uses switches instead of the squishy membrane which was my main gripe and why i instantly boxed it and returned the normal Ultimate after using it for 20 minutes. For me personally, this is a better Xbox Elite (I've only used the series 1 but I've been using it for the past 5+ years as my main controller) and cheaper. Its just better in basically every way (to an Xbox controller) and compared to the Ultimate, this is the controller to get if you are accustomed to xbox. I played through a souls like game with it and found no issues with the controller itself except for me getting used to it but it works perfectly fine out of the box, just a little adjusting to with the shape of the controller but nothing else really. Didn't notice any friction with the thumbsticks, face buttons sounded no different to me, bumper buttons feel like Xbox bumper buttons maybe a little less clicky but still uses a switch and triggers I'm unsure, i turned off vibration (just don't like it personally since I play "mechanical" style games so the rumble can get distracting) but i know that impulse is supposed to work on PC, unsure if it's capable on 2.4G though. Hope this helps, if you have any more questions, feel free to reply. 😀

@@snooie Already got one on sale, waiting for delivery. Thanks for a reply, some of my questions and doubts about this this controller was answered! I like 8bitdo controllers, never failed me so far and there are always repair parts on sale, but since my favourite Pro 2 didn't received any major upgrades except hall sticks, I decided to upgrade my Ultimate Bluetooth to a proper PC/Xbox wireless option. Ultimate Bluetooth was fine for me and still work flawlessly, but yeah, certain annoyances like grinding sticks, unstable membrane bumpers and dpad, wobbly pressure sensitive triggers, no Xbox features, weren't good enough to be a full time main controller, but I'll decide to keep Ultimate Bluetooth as my backup and Switch controller 👍

@@J0rdan912heads up wireless doesn’t work on Xbox unless you use one of the other adapters then plug this ones into that.

@@FIVESTRZ Yeah, thanks, already got one

@@J0rdan912 If you're cool with wired it feels amazing, I ended up returning because I got kids and dogs and it's for SURE getting ripped off the desk if there's a cable. I hope you enjoy!

yo. the dpad feels clicky compared to the squisyness of the other 8bitdo controllers. It honestly does feel like an Xbox controller but since the dpad itself is flat (on an Xbox controller) but slightly raised on the edges (on the 8bitdo), it has a little more travel distance to actuate/bottom out compared to an Xbox but it shouldn't degrade your play, just some getting used to. It's way better than the squishy dpad though, i think if you get the controller you'll get used to it pretty quick.

Forgot to mention the bumpers, i honestly didnt notice any feel difference from an Xbox controller, i think there is a slight difference in travel distance to click/actuate the switch but it's very negligible to me that I've already gotten used to it if that is the case.

​@@snooie Thanks! I actually have the ultimate BT one but the dpad for me is a bit stiff and when im playing platformers or emulators my thumb gets a bit tired after a while.

hello! yes, nkro is also supported over bluetooth and is not only limited to wired mode

yo, apologies for such a late response. if you are still wondering, it seems like they would, the Keychron Q2 board supports 5 pin MX style switches and since the daisy switches are just 3 pin they'll work as they are MX style (as from my quick look at them, I've never heard of them before)

yo, sorry haven't checked into this account in a while. Still my daily driver keyboard! im very pleased with the quality of the keyboard, its nothing "gamery" but has all the specs to be used all around with 1000hz refresh/bluetooth capability/ and rgb (albeit i like to leave it on white for the aesthetic). Its definitely an enthusiast board, mod it to get what you want from it but you are really paying for the quality and features that come base with the board to get you on a solid platform to customize it all you want. if you have any more questions I would be glad to offer any help.

yep, I'm pretty sure the industry standard nowadays are 5 pin standard but I am using the Gateron Box Black Inks which are 5 pin so that should answer your question :) most diy boards that I have known about are 5 pins but just in case you should always watch a review or search it up before investing your money into it😁

@@snooie ya I just got the keychron q2 pro black with Akko cream blue pros and gmk red samurai keycaps (clone)

I have never heard of the force break mod as this is my first full metal keyboard but after a few quick searches I see why you recommend me to try this mod. Thanks for the suggestion and will do so! 😁

@@snooie no problem man. When I first opened up my Q2, I thought they fixed the problem with the Q1 since they put like those rectangular rubber stuff on the case but nahhh it was pinging like hell. Good luck on your build! 😀

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what the heck thats like my favorite streamer vtuber indie wow@@snooie