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Two horses, one directly in Rollkur, the other constantly behind the vertical. That's animal abuse

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@dog2484 no one can put up a horse video these days without attracting a hater desperate to get attention off of others. I'm sure you are an advanced classical dressage rider who is perfectly qualified to comment about horse training, but most probably not, because you spend most of your time on TH-cam or FB being a keyboard warrior trying to show off your superior knowledge and self righteous beliefs, pretending that all this anger and bitterness is because of your love of animals. Take that time and energy and go and do something productive with your life instead of snarking at others.

@@jacquedaw don't waste my time and learn basics about Classical Dressage that you lack

@@jacquedaw its so amusing, you aren't able recognizing, that one horse in this movie walks 95 % Rollkur, and the other horse 100 : LDR. This hasn't anything to do with Classical Dressage : its abuse. Continue, reading Wendy 🤭

@@dog2484 you just proved my point lol

It's always behind the vertical, and hasn't anything to do with Classical Dressage

Agreed

Yes you are perfectly right, MOST is forced - force is NOT beautiful.

spurs\\\are to give the horse a better understanding of what is being asked * a clear knowledge. curbs are not cruel or severe, they are called a leverage bit--meaning: they put pressure on poll to help keep head down and steady. ALSO is used again for more clear instructions. actually: both of these twos are to give a more clear instruction to the horse.

BS! If you can't gain control of the horse on the ground, hence why you need all that crap to force it, otherwise it goes out of control and you end up on the ground. Spurs is to push the horse because there was no ground work done with the horse, so it does NOT respect you. Bits makes you believe your controlling the horse, but it is a means of communication, not control. This horse is being forced to do what the human want it to do vs the horse wanting doing it on it's own through cues.

Why then is the froth often flecked with blood in the horses' mouths . Look at old films of Christine Stukleberger on Granat and Anky Van Grunsven on Parcival to name two and then tell me that is NOT severe Half-halts by the former were bordering on damn cruel. Both Olympic riders who were very severe and should know better .

Please tell me where you found this beautiful quote.

+Lykkensif This man is such a perfectionist. His method is amazing good

Constantly behind the vertical is SOFTNESS? This hasn't anything to do with Classical Dressage Vorwärts Abwärts Warn up.

Maybe I'm getting old but I much prefer the"topper" I guess you'd call it tradition. It looked much smarter than the helmet type hat does..

I agree but the skull doesn't look so smart when it's cracked.

Keith Bartlam I was wondering the same thing.

I've been thinking the same thing. It looks like this horse is broken in the 3rd vertebrae, but I could be wrong.

Megan Peterson I would love to know what Carl Hester thinks! This horse does have a lovely developed top line and while he is slightly behind the vertical, he does seem very comfortable, he's light and obedient and has the weight wonderfully shifted to the hindquarters.

Keith Bartlam It's called Rollkur and well spotted. Horses that froth all over themselves are not enjoying their ride. Check out Juan Manuel, from Spain, and his Andalusin number 12. With this team, rider and trainer are one and there's no Rollkur, regardless of his stallion's neck.

+Anne P the horse is clearly not trained with rolkur

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I don't think it's a good idea to use the bit as a correction. So I really don't think this is the purpose of one of the bits, besides it's obligatory to ride with a bridle so with two bits.

No, its a double bridle. One is a snaffle (the bradoon) and the other one is a weymouth which is a curb. high level dressage horses always go in a double bridle

The curb is used to aid in the high level of collection needed at this level of dressage. The use of the curb, however, does depend on how well the horse has been trained. In some rides you will see the outside edge of the curb nearly parallel to the ground when being engaged..this means the rider is using a lot of pressure on the curb to get the collection. The idea is to get the horse so responsive and light that the curb is barely used but some riders use it as a crutch. Many of these upper level horses are schooled only in snaffles.

Lynn Kelley The Curb Rein's ONLY use is to ask for a "dropping at the poll" (not the curling down and under as seen in this video), and also a correct neck extension, otherwise it isn't used. A correct neck extension is when one wants to stretch the neck OUT and with an OPEN poll, with the neck no lower then horizontal to the ground. That is correct classical French Riding....which bye the way the Cadre Noir no longer practice as I witnessed at Saumur last weeek!!!

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