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Great to hear! If you have any questions along the way be sure to reach out.

@@buckeyesoutside what’s the farthest shot you would take with that? I shoot a 6.5 creedmoore and killed my first deer last year. Idk how it will be with a heavy bullet but the farthest range stand we have is 110 yards

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I’ll give it a try.

Bummer. I hope they make it right for you.

... just like the stated MVs on factory ammo boxes ... about 90% BS

It definitely depends on ammo. We had the best luck with the Winchester copper impact. An 1-1/8 group at 100 yards with a 100 yard gun is plenty good for me.

@@buckeyesoutside ...1.5" or under 3-shot group @ 100 yds is fine ... these CVAs are quite expensive for single shot rifles ... if I am willing to settle for 3"-4" groups I can buy a Rossi break-open for 1/2 the money that will do that

These seemed to stay on pretty well. I purposely removed one to look at the bullet. It took a minor amount of effort. If I had expansion issues, I planned or removing them altogether to see if it worked better. I just didn’t find the need for removing.

What I was shooting is widely available, reasonably priced and name brand factory produced. I’m sure the bear creek is great( I hope to do a video this summer featuring their product based on viewer suggestions). The problem is, the average guy isn’t going to pick it up at the store a few days before gun season. If you have any suggestions, please fill me in.

Great to hear that you are making it out! Best of luck to you. And yes! Duck green will likely be fine. If you can, try to match your background where you are sitting, that will help. Just keep in mind when considering fancy gear (which can be awesome) that by the year 1900 most of the wildlife was eliminated from the landscape by unrestricted market hunting. Those guys didn’t even have camouflage. And they did it with single shot guns. Getting out, and hunting is the best advantage you can have. Finding quality places to hunt is the next most important. Fancy gear is way down the list. Have a great time! “The best camouflage pattern is sit still and be quiet” -Fred Bear

@@buckeyesoutside thank you sir! Happy hunting!!

That’s an awesome idea! Thanks.

Sounds like pretty good experiences. Thank you for the info.

Thank you! I'm happy you enjoyed it. At some point a friend who is really into knives and myself, plan on making a knife video geared towards picking the right knife for the right task.

I agree with you. I have had experiences with other projectiles, where I feel that the tips prevented the expansion. As long as they work as designed, they are great. That seems to be the case with these. We uploaded another video showing the positive results with expansion. Our video is titled “Best 350 Legend Ammo for Deer” Thank you for taking the time for your very valid input.

Absolutely

Congratulations!

Absolutely!

I think it’s a fairly dumb design. I do have one magazine that fits slightly better than the other. Could try adding a little material with some JB weld to the rails, and then sand it down until it’s a little more snug. Just a thought. Good luck.

I’m happy that our video was helpful. We are new to making videos, but people seem to like getting to the point as much as I do. Good luck! Hopefully they treat you as well as they did us.

I’m used to the results that I get with a 12 ga. I have to remind myself that the 350 is not a 12 ga. I’m not going to get the results that I’m used to. With that said, it doesn’t have harsh recoil, the ammo is less than half the cost and it is slightly more accurate. There are pros and cons. The smaller or more recoil sensitive the shooter is, the more the benefits lean toward the 350. I’m just trying to get the most out of it. As I stated in an earlier post, the 350 isn’t going to be some magical, awesome deer round. It is what it is…A small and fairly effective option if the bullet is sent to the proper place. With the small sample size of one deer with the copper impact, I do believe you will have better penetration and less fragmentation. I’m not sure if it will make much of a larger wound channel. Best of luck to you and thanks for your input!

when it first came out it was being called the new 30 30. the county i live in here in pa was a slug only but straight wall legal. the reason i bought one at all. rest of the state i can use any centerfire i own but more often go with a 6.5 grendel again for the same reason you spoke of, recoil and cost but that little 6.5 works very well on critters, be safe and shoot straight@@buckeyesoutside

With a .350?

@buckeyesoutside yeah with the 350 100 to 140 yard shots, double lung, no bullet expansion, no blood trail. 20 inch barrel on AR platform.

It’s a 100 yard and in gun. I’m sure it’s accurate further, but there isn’t much energy. I think it’s great for people who can’t or don’t want bigger guns, but it’s not some magical deer slayer. Just my opinion… it’s good for kids and women. We had decent expansion at 30 and 75 yards with the power points. The copper impact did better for us. I’m not sure that they would have done as good at further distances.

@buckeyesoutside yeah, that upper is getting retired until my 4 year old is old enough.

Odd, I have had the exact opposite experiences with 180gr Power Points.

Great! We had a similar result. Congratulations!

Several people have mentioned those. I need to order a box or two and give them a try.

My buck was about 50 yards and my doe was about 80 yards taken with the 12 ga. I’m pretty sure his were both within 50. I should have included that in the video. My bad.

Great to meet you! Any luck today?

@@buckeyesoutside no. We found some of those big rubs you were talking about. I don’t think we heard more than 2 shots out there today. The taller guy you were talking to kindly started letting me tag along last year.😂. Haven’t got a dear yet. I’ll probably head out this weekend sometime. Most likely berlin area.

The first one is the hardest. Do you hunt with a bow too?

@@buckeyesoutside not yet

My advice is just to be patient. You were hunting in a good place. Find the most used trails you can find in an area and sit there. It might take several days, but it will happen. The hardest thing for people to do is sit still. If you can’t sit still, or get cold and need to move, just look for the quietest path, take one step every couple minutes, and only walk when the woods gets noisy (wind blows, loud truck going down a near by road, plane or helicopter overhead ) try to keep the wind in your face. It will come together.

The bullet dia is actually .357 making it legal in Ohio. Similar to how a .300 win mag is a .308 dia. The name doesn’t always match the actual diameter. They just have to make things complicated in order to sound cooler I guess.

I have yet to see them on a shelf. Harvest any deer with them?

They are online only that I have seen midway usa has them. My deer season starts this coming up weekend will be the first time using them

Get a big one!

Get a big one!

I’m happy to answer here.

It would likely be possible to tighten those groups up at 100 yards with a nice 4-12. I like the 2-7 for the 100 yd and closer shots in our area. The Nikon pro staff scope that’s on it I feel is a very appropriate choice for that gun. Every time we shoot it, the groups remain close to the same for each type. I feel that it is plenty of accurate for it’s purpose. I hope that the copper impacts perform well on deer. It’s great to hear that yours is treating you well. Best of luck to you. Thanks for watching.

Ours was tight to open at first. It seems to be getting easier at it gets broken in. Good luck!

Hey Robert, I just ordered the .243 this morning. Curious if you used a one piece scope mount? Also any luck finding a good bag for when its broken down? Thanks!

… the gun comes with a 1-piece scope mount … they sometimes do a crappy job of attaching the mount at the factory leaving all kinds of oil & dirt on the threads … take the factory mounted rail off and clean everything then remount and locktite the threads

I never had a chance to do the gel test. I’m hoping that we will be able to see the performance on deer in mid November during the youth deer firearms season. It absolutely does shoot the best out of every other ammo that we tested. I’ll will post our finding as soon as possible, hopefully before most of the states general firearms seasons open. Thank you for watching!

We had a successful hunt today. The results were very good. We also tested the 12 and 20 ga copper impact last week. I will have a video of the slugs out first…hopefully tomorrow and the .350 hopefully later in the week. But I wouldn’t hesitate to give them a try. They were our best used up to this point.

I’m happy to help! Any other questions?

I am getting a brown bess flint lock muzzleloader

@@earlshaner4441 Sounds awesome. Good luck.

Yes my friend

It seems like the Loctite did the trick.

I have heard of those. Someone else recommended them. As I remember, they were expensive and sold out when I was going to pick some up. I may need to revisit that idea. Thank you. Do you like that cascade? I am thinking of one for myself in .450 BM.

@@buckeyesoutside Overall, the gun is ok... Good trigger... fit and finish are as expected in that price range...But shoots well. And that ammo isn't much more expensive than that ammo you're posting about. If any.

Experimentation is fun. I would still be careful hitting shoulder or spine with those. I have no doubt that broadside heart lung shots will be without issue. Best of luck in the upcoming season!

I agree because I know so many fellow hunters who have switched away from mechanicals and now shoot fixed blades. A couple of friends now upgraded to IRON WILL which are so expensive. Even The Hunting Public guys have switched to fixed, so the jury remains deadlocked. Thanks for commenting! th-cam.com/video/oGJKEUa8rmw/w-d-xo.html

Are you talking about all copper bullets, these Winchesters, or 350 Legends? I use Barnes TTSX in my AR-15 chambered in 5.56 and have never had a problem with them.

@@billrussell697 In an Aero 350 legend AR

Thank you!

The raptors seem to struggle the most with consumption of lead. I don’t think that eating a few deer a year poses much of a threat to humans. Most of the fragments end up in a gut pile. Other things can be done to prevent lead exposure to raptors such a burying or removing the intestines from the field. I am experimenting with more copper loads personally for that reason though. If I can get good terminal performance from copper, I will likely make a change. I’m not willing to give up much though when other things can be done to mitigate the concerns. It’s a great conversation to have. Thank you for your thoughts.

@buckeyesoutside It's probably more of a problem with shot in small game,but supposedly very small amounts of lead have detrimental effects.