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This video is amazing, i'm looking forward to watching more also the audio is very quiet, could you please turn it up a notch for future videos?

great video

And here I'm off in my own little corner shipping Aerith and Tifa. They have GREAT chemistry in Rebirth... Oh well, a girl can dream.

aerith is the childhood friend he’s always wanted, the one that kept him included in the group, made sure he’d tag along. tifa is the girl he always wished did that for him, wich is why he ultimately kisses her, he’s got a crush on her wich is natural. but it is a triangle because he loves both and is confused. but because aerith goes back into the planet, cloud and tifa en up raising a family (advent children), to get by. they remind me more of my parents before divorce, immature and not very knowledgeable, they fixed it, unlike a lot of partners in this situation. tifa keeps him in check, making sure he doesn’t lose himself again. they are both very good partners, and in the end when everyone returns to the planet, we don’t know who he chooses. and I feel like cloud doesn’t really choose himself. as someone who has many problems like cloud, choosing someone to stick around is a very hard choice, but I do rather stay around people who want my presence. but then again I also desire the harder choices, fight for what I wanted in the first place, in his case tifa. aerith definitely feels safer tho. because the fear to be truly happy, get what I want, there’s a fear it will only last so long since the other person didn’t push me to tag along anyways (tifa). tifa is kind of a sheep, she lives truly for herself and enjoys the ones that stick around her. wich is admirable, and she believed cloud was a tuff one too, who truly knows what he wants, wich she tought was being alone. that he didn’t like tagging along. but now that she sees he isn’t, she acts more like a mother than a childhood friend, keeping a lot of secrets from him. it makes him feel invalidated, because of his traumas he actually wants to believe he’s tuffer now. and now that he actually wants that tuff love treatment, be the cool guy. tifa switches on him, if you know what I mean. wich breaks him even more in the end. you could say tifa is evil, but then again they were kids, again something they have to talk out. aerith doesn’t have this, but she also has her problems, because she enables cloud to lay back and do nothing, luckily that doesn’t falter his determination to save the planet. but being a love bomber like aerith is toxic, and healing. and tifa being a mother figure and therapeutic to cloud, is also both toxic, and healing. it’s very sad for our cloud, because they make him so confused, they are litteraly pulling on his arms, like they did in the game before. wich I found very symbolic. they think they know what is best for him, but ultimately no one has control over your darkness but yourself. (cloud) wich is why sephiroth tells tifa her words don’t reach him anymore in rebirth (as I imagine sephiroth is prolly thinking, give up bitch), and why aerith returns to the earth. this is cloud his fight. wich would actually make sephiroth less of a villain towards cloud, and we see this several times, the first time he’s up close to sephiroth in the first remake, and actually talk in the ending, he offers aliance. period. I hope this made sense, but having played the original too this is my interpretation. so sorry everyone, I do believe this is another open romance story. we will get the satisfaction of getting cloti scenes, but as intended, cloud and aeriths bond will be way fluffier, cuz aerith is comfort, and everything good. while tifa is his guilty pleasure, saying it in a weird way. but this is lowkeeeey, why I think her appearance is on purpose. - the big boobs, she litteraly shows her boobs everytime she shows her scars - the odd jokes and flustering he has around her. - that fkn intimacy laying on eachother on their first mission. saving eachother, grabbing her waist. it’s practically everything a dude fantasizes about when they are the cool hero and rescue a hot babe. and this could also explain why cloud acts flustered after that whole lifestream incident where they basically clapped eachother. because he lowkey wanna let people know he achieved some stuff. idk if this sounds ignorant, but the way they speak and how big of a deal tifa makes it, about being found out. to me it sounds very, novel. and like that couple that wants people to know, tifa wants others to know he’s hers, but cloud also wants others to know he finally scores. EEEH? may be a stretch, may be not, may, may. I know some people will be mad at this, but it’s pretty much his personality of acting cooler than he is. (I also wouldn’t be surprised if they did almost nothing and it really turns out they made a big deal out of it , idk how to explain it in my point of view, but it would be such a cloud thing to do. like “OMG YOU WERE WATCHING?! EVERYTHINGGG?” all the while they barely saw anything from the ship, just that they are ontop of eachother. and then cloud acts really sus scratching the back of his neck like nothing happened, thinking he’s mysterious. and barret rolling his eyes going “yeah yeah alright”) just wanna mention one more thing, that in both advent children and kingdom hearts (very random) but they make it clear tifa is very impulsive, obsessive, and always looking for cloud, a stark contrast to how she was as a kid. and sephiroth in kingdom hearts tells sora that cloud himself searches for darkness, his tone sounds almost compassionate, sephiroth is cloud his darkness, and he searches for it, trying to kill that issue inside him. he litterally cannot let it rest, and he will fight it til it’s truly gone. and kingdom hearts being kinda seen as the after life of final fantasy and kingdom hearts universes, I kinda see this as them fighting it out in the lifestream. (but again this theory is because of noctis and this whole ff13 ff15 incomplete stuff so…) I’m not gonna go too much into his or this mentality, but personality, across the games, it’s pretty evident what they intend for them to come over as. just like aerith in kingdom hearts, enabling him to lay back, that she’s always there, heavily implied. wich you could take positively, but it is also an issue in this case.

I agree, but I think they probably have a reason for it. I think they are trying to build anticipation for part 3 where we will finally really get to save her. I don't like cliffhangers though, hopefully they give us some more hints soon.

Rebirth was absolutely a Clerith game. I actually have a theory that Aerith choosing cloud for himself at the end of part 3 will tie into his character and he can break away as just an avatar for the player and their desires. Cloud deserves to have his own sense of agency back when he gets better.

I loved your video. In the original there are various things that push Cloud towards Aerith. Cloud's mother's statement about finding an older girl clearly refers to Aerith. In Cosmo Canyon when around the bonfire Aerith begins to understand her destiny of Cetra and says that she is alone and Cloud stops her by saying "you have me and then embarrassed he immediately corrects himself by saying we" Or Caitsith himself when at the end of the temple of the ancients he says that the two of them are perfect together. In the remake when Aerith says "we can't fall in love" and he tries to grab her when Cloud himself argues with Elmyra because he absolutely wants to save her without wanting anything in return. And then there is the Rebirth and the game tells you this very clearly through the characters. He tells you this through Marlene using the words "Aerith really likes Cloud" Through Aerith's confession of her feelings towards Cloud in church. And that hug in the church and when Sephiroth enters the church door and Aerith pushes Cloud away to save him and I saw it as a pure gesture of love to save the loved one. Aerith throughout the first part of ff7 OG was that person and the only one who managed to move Cloud emotionally because it was her that Cloud needed. That kind of person and girl. She protects him and shakes him emotionally, he protects her and makes her feel safe. I played the original Final Fantasy 7 for the first time in 1997. I don't know why but both when I saw them there and in Advent Children it was like being struck by lightning, I immediately loved them together. And for 27 years I continue to love them together despite everything.

"learn to talk to her" gets me everytime

Don't be disheartened with this ending. Everything is done on purpose. Yes they've pulled the most emotional scene from the original from view but it's still there. You can see Cloud ranting at Sephiroth, the footage is merely being blocked from Clouds mind as he's recreating the memory. But his lips are moving and we get the high pitched headache noise to show that this is being repressed. The lake scene is the same, Its' there, it happened but Cloud has blocked out the memory as he has convinced himself that Aerith is alive. When Aerith shows up to help Cloud fight sephiroth she says to him "I saw what you did Cloud, Thank you" This refering to him carrying her body to the Lake. Sephiroth will destroy Cloud at the Northern Crater just like in the original. In the OG he used the memory of Zack to convince Cloud he wasn't real. This time however Cloud already remembers Zack so Sephiroth can't use that memory to break him. What he can do is reveal to Cloud that he never saved Aerith, that she died in his arms and Cloud refused to accept it. Later in the lifestream with Tifa, Cloud will see his confrontation with Sephiroth, he will yell and Scream at him, and after the battle he will lay Aerith to rest coming to terms with his loss and accepting his true self. And it will be FANTASTIC

Good video. FF7 is an important game. I’m surprised how rushed the Aerith scene felt. I even realized advent children portrayed certain aspects better surprisingly.

Neither tifa or aerith are the canon couple then ... Aerith is literally dead.

Sorry if I missed it already happening. But if not. Care to make an update on this topic now that rebirth is out? I'd be interested.

I think it would be too early to say that SE took the wrong decision for the ending here. For we should see all this confusion in the light of the last installment of the game. I think SE really know what they are doing by leaving all the players confused by this ending and preparing the players for the big surprise at the third installment as it can be the last part of all the FF7 saga. But I really like what you explain in the video. A great food for thought in seeing this game ending. But we shall see how it ends with the last installment. 😁

I hated that the ferris wheel scene came down to a stupid party relationship mechanic. Come to think of it, the “game” aspect of Rebirth ruined a lot of the fun for me.

Andddd...yet, only Tifa got a kiss from Cloud in the Gold saucer date scene in rebirth. And no, it's not fanservice 😂.The devs could have done it with Aerith to seal the deal but nope.😌 Anyone who thinks Tifa is second to Aerith for Cloud doesn't understand the story. Let me just add, that the devs could have ended the T x C GS date with a hug to maintain the integrity of the 'ambiguity' of Cloud's feelings. Most Cloti's were not expecting a kiss either, but the devs went beyond that because that's where their relationship is heading anyways. There's a story to be told here guys.

Cloud is in denial. Cloud did put her body into the water, but we'll see that in disk 3 when his mind is intact.

What were you intentionally trying to do? You literally made a video about Cloud and Aerith but got caught in a barrage of comments from shippers that are saying youre wrong about cloud and tifa. Word of advice, if youre gonna make a video that points in the favor of Tifa and Cloud, don't leave a hastag or put uo a thumbnail that has Clerith on it.

6:16 The moment Aerith realises that Cloud doesn't realise he has a crush on her. 20:45 The moment Aerith realises that Cloud realises he has a crush on her. 9:53 The moment Cloud realises he's desperately in love with her.

There's a piece in a Spanish forum (Forocoches) which explains the whole ending and how it relates to the lifestream and the overarching story. I highly recommend you to read it, as Reddit doesn't really have an explanation of the final sequence as clear-cut as this one. Search in google for this entry: "Forocoches EXPLICACIÓN del final del FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH y opinión personal (SPOILERS)". You should be able to access it and use google translate to read it, it's not a complex translation at all. Hope you can do that Cloud/Aerith video analysis soon, the Remake one was very entertaining ;)

I played the original game shortly before the Remake released and played FF7 Remake right after I've completed the original. I was not aware of any shipping or love triangle discussion since I was far removed from the general FF7 discourse at the time. While playing none of this ever came to mind. Cloud and Aerith were so obvious to me and I think Remake tripled down on their mutual love for each other more than anything else

In fact, Cloud and Tifa do have a relationship after the end of the original game, but in the book On the way to a smile, which is a sequel to the game, it is said that Cloud leaves her because he cannot bear the depression over Aerith's death and He goes to the church where Aerith saved him in the game, which is where he is at the beginning of the Advent Children movie. The truth is I like both Tifa and Aerith, but I like Aerith more because of her personality. To me she is simply perfect.

Clerith is beautiful. I want the young Aerith to meet young Cloud in a dream...So she finally say, "I finally met - the real you -". I know we as Clerith fans can't expect more, but better than nothing.

I'm pretty confident that Aerith's burial and Cloud's speech will be shown in part 3. They are way too iconic scenes to be left out completely. Cloud probably thinks that he saved Aerith somehow because he can still see and talk to her. But he still understands that he has to leave her behind and continue the journey without her..? Anyway to Cloud Aerith is not really dead so I think that is the main reason why some important scenes were left out. When Cloud gets his mind fixed in the next part he will probably remember Aerith's death and we'll see the full scene 😥 That being said I also wasn't very happy with Rebirth's ending altough it has grown on me a bit. I was prepared with a pack of tissues but only used one because I was so confused what was happening that I didn't know what to feel. Like girl, are you dead or not? 😅 Looking forward to the next Clerith romance video. There were a ton of sweet moments in Rebirth 😊

maybe her funeral will be shown in pt 3

Great analysis, great editing, fantastic video as always!!

Shit I gotta watch this when I wake up, very interested to hear your thoughts

This is exactly how I felt about rebirth’s ending. so frustrating

Great video!

That's a beautiful friendship, unless you rely on fan arts. The only romance you see through the games is with Tifa, where something between the two characters actually do happen. Whether you like it or not.

I think maybe from an intellectual level Clerith works, and it seems like some people like it because it’s a better relationship (more romantic, extrovert/introvert, less conflict, tragic, star-crossed lovers). But after playing FF7 Remake and FF7 Rebirth it became clear to me that Cloud is really in love with Tifa. Cloud and Zack have always been my favorites, so I support Cloud x Tifa. I know a lot of Cleriths think all Clotis are guys, but I’m a married female with kids, lol. I’m learning to like Tifa. I was apathetic about her until FF7 Remake. I guess we’ll see what happens in the 3rd game.

Not really sure a semi-implied one night stand makes for a cannon couple unless there was some other confirmation of Tifa and Cloud actually getting together post AC that I'm not remembering. That aside, Cloud & Tifa's bond being based on shared trauma is spot on. They weren't actually friends as kids and only became friends during the events of OG FF7; which was entirely driven by the struggles and trauma they went through: losing their hometown, losing Avalanche, losing Aerith, fighting Shinra & Sephiroth. Yeah at various points in their lives they did have crushes on one another, but in both cases those crushes were rooted in who each thought the other was, as opposed to who they actually are. To me the real difference in the two women all boils down to Tifa constantly trying to get Cloud to return to who she thought he was compared to Aerith wanting to know who he actually is.

I am new to FF and i played Remake and Rebirth recently for the first time without no previous knowledge at all. All I knew was pictures of that hot Sephiroth guy haha. It was really noticeable how much Cloud hates touching and being touched - BUT not with Aerith. Particularly in Rebirth, there are a million small touched initiated by Cloud that he didn't do with anyone else: a hand on her shoulder when they are betrayed by Caith Sith, embracing her to protect her from the sandstorm, reaching out for her hand when leaving the sky wheel, etc. I also laughed that he DOES NOT contradict Aerith in the beginning of Rebirth when Aerith tells everyone they were on a date.

This video is all wrong according to the writers, the ultimanias, traces of two pasts and AC and DC. Cloud and Tifa are cannon and that's a fact. Jessie and Aerith were killed off for befriending Tifa and flirting with Cloud. Cloti and Zerith are even more cannon in remake and rebirth. Cloud's backstory is Tifa. His reason for doing anything he does is for Tifa. You are delusional!! Lol

Make one for rebirth? Would love to see it. Love theories about the ships.

I love to see Clerith more than cloti, why??? if you guys play rebirth and choose to date Tifa, after the Kiss scene, then cloud still will hold Aerith's hand after defeat sephiroth, this is SO WEIRD okay?! If U still don't understand what I mean, just ignore my comment, because U will always don't know what is common sense. that's all

Simply perfect. I agree with you completely.

i think the video is well done that brings up a lot of good and valid points for whats supposed to be your first video essay but the title really doesnt fit when the video is really just "ermm heres why cloud and tifa SUCKS ASS and why cloud and aerith is the oh tee pee" i dont really pick either sides because all this is frankly just childish to me and yall need some grass, but just pointing out that the video could be titled better / the video could have a stronger focus on the actual subject from the title. Like half of the duration of the video is just about cloud and tifa which isn't really that relevant in my opinion lol

Excellent video essay. Something interesting about the dream sequence is it is actually Cloud's resolution scene and not Aerith's like many believe. If you read the chapter description it says Cloud, Tifa and Barret resolve to save Aerith. So you can only see it by getting higher affinity with Aerith. I thought that was neat. Another thing to note is the original promo material and the original trailer don't mention Tifa as a love interest at all. You'll actually be hard pressed to find any official material depicting them as a couple. Dirge of Cerberus gives a great write up of all the characters listing Tifa as Cloud's childhood friend; nothing more. Even the games that have had any FF7 references in them or have included characters from the game are always Aerith and Cloud with Cloud looking for someone. In the case of Final Fantasy Tactics he's looking for the promised land. In Kingdom Hearts 2 he's literally running away from Tifa. In Advent Children they don't really have a relationship. He doesn't call her back and he doesn't even really look at her when they're talking. Even the photo at the end with Tifa, Marlene, Denzel and Cloud in it, shows Cloud standing off to the side and the photo itself is off to the side almost hidden. I feel bad for Tifa because she really deserves better. The ending though where Cloud is on the bike and Aerith is in the field waiting is so good they shouldn't have changed it. There's actually a really good essay I read that parallels Cloud and Aerith's relationship with Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet along with a lot of the biblical references in the game. Here's a link should anyone be interested in reading it. It's a really good read. thefandomoverthinker.wordpress.com/2020/04/07/why-ff7-was-always-a-romance-between-aerith-and-cloud-by-understanding-romeo-and-juliet/ If anyone decides to read it you'll discover the game is literally Romeo and Juliet.

I wish this was viral , like you did this so good 😭

My starcrossed lovers 💔

Tifa was never the side chick. Cloud became a soldier because he wanted to be powerful like the war-hero Sephiroth mainly to impress Tifa. During that time he was traumatized and mindbroken by being infused with Mako and his close friend dying. He wandered into Midgar and found Tifa (He mentions fate bringing him and her together in Rebirth during the Nibelheim chapter). Cloud took on Zach's persona as a coping mechanism to his mindbreak. Tifa took him in, got him a place to live, found him work that he liked doing. She obviously wanted him near her, they have the same apartment complex. Just watch her in his apartment when she says she's so glad he's back. She's smiling, she takes a breath that's probably full of butterflies and stretches. Just that little gesture says so much. He's her piece of home, the one thing she didn't lose from her past. Cloud and Tifa's relationship runs so much deeper than him and Aerith. Aerith basically tries to re-live her romance she had with Zach by doing the same things with Cloud. The way she looked into his eyes, that was with Zach at the same spot. She met him after he fell through the church roof, just like Zach. It'll cost you one date? Zach's pickup line. Aerith is alone and Cloud reminds her of her past love, so she's playful, assertive. Yes she's into him, but Cloud is mixed between her and Tifa. The problem with Remake being your basis of this is Tifa has many more great scenes with Cloud later on, the beginning focused a lot on Aerith. The romance could go either way depending on player choice. But for the two that mean the most to each other it's Cloud and Tifa. It's not just a trauma bond, they grew up together, they keep finding each other, and they care deeply about each other.

Aerith is the only one to get Cloud to open up...even Cloud considers the other character as friends. Aerith is the only one to shock Cloud by grabbing arm or grabbing his hands. Cloud became more protective of Aerith in the Rebirth. Oh my goodness, Can't wait for you to talk about Rebirth. Oh, new subscriber here.

8:08 Bruh, you just gave me an epiphany as to how the part 3 of remake will develop Cloud and Tifa's relationship... They be fighting monsters while smiling at each other and maintaining eye contact, and making the monster there a second priority

Have you played Rebirth? THis narrative is accentuated even more... Spoilers.. She is a part of Cloud... Even in death....

i thought in the rebirth they are not kill her as it looked like . i desperately wish they bring her back in part 3 or kill cloud too. so that they can stay forever together

Can you please to a video about their relationship in Rebirth please? I am burning to know what you see there of their relationship! QwQ

Hey loved the video was wondering if u plan on making a part 2 for cloud and aerith whenever u play rebirth

Thank you for pointing all these little details out that I passed by but definitely subconsciously noticed. I feel the same way too. While Tifa got Cloud to open up, Aerith got Cloud to open up more. The way Aerith did it, it was so organic, so natural that there's no other choice but to declare her the best choice for Cloud. She brings out the best in him and makes him the most at peace with himself.

Cloud x Aerith love dynamic got deeper in rebirth

Well rebirth really took a step back with their romance. When Aerith sits on the water tower with Cloud she sais she wants to be alone. Cloud tries to stay but can't break Aeriths wall. But he should power through it because she needs someone close their. Also he isn't making enough of effort. The girls clearly talked about guys off screen....