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Master Ficus
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2021
Consume.
Decay of a Film Critic Ideologue
Want to make three things very clear.
1. I don't hate Bob. To my knowledge he's never false DCMA'd someone or done frivolous lolsuits, he's just a silly guy that says funny things about movies and people he doesn't like. It's almost endearing.
2. If anyone goes after Bob in the real world (doxxing/swatting/etc) I will lay a gypsie curse on them to remove two inches of length.
3. Hydration is an important winter self care activity, you need to drink MORE water when it's cold even though you will feel less thirsty.
Big shoutout to @BurgerWyister20 for helping with the research. He has some streams on his channel where we covered OC if anyone wants more Bobtent.
Creators mentioned:
all lol @OrganizedChaos14
9:00@RJStheFourthAge
10:20@ComicArtistProSecrets
20:50 @ActualFandom
21:40 @ReiReality
22:50 @NerdettesNewsStand
35:30 @Rags's
44:40 @Creetosis
51:10 @nerdrotic
59:17 @EveryFrameAPause
1:05:00 @blurhavokofficial (Alastor, keep an eye out for his response video)
1:11:10 @youngrippa59
1:11:30 @TheLittlePlatoon
1:20:10 @SitchAndAdamShow
1:31:30 @SyntheticMan
02:06:40 @ClippedCoin @therealloomar
1. I don't hate Bob. To my knowledge he's never false DCMA'd someone or done frivolous lolsuits, he's just a silly guy that says funny things about movies and people he doesn't like. It's almost endearing.
2. If anyone goes after Bob in the real world (doxxing/swatting/etc) I will lay a gypsie curse on them to remove two inches of length.
3. Hydration is an important winter self care activity, you need to drink MORE water when it's cold even though you will feel less thirsty.
Big shoutout to @BurgerWyister20 for helping with the research. He has some streams on his channel where we covered OC if anyone wants more Bobtent.
Creators mentioned:
all lol @OrganizedChaos14
9:00@RJStheFourthAge
10:20@ComicArtistProSecrets
20:50 @ActualFandom
21:40 @ReiReality
22:50 @NerdettesNewsStand
35:30 @Rags's
44:40 @Creetosis
51:10 @nerdrotic
59:17 @EveryFrameAPause
1:05:00 @blurhavokofficial (Alastor, keep an eye out for his response video)
1:11:10 @youngrippa59
1:11:30 @TheLittlePlatoon
1:20:10 @SitchAndAdamShow
1:31:30 @SyntheticMan
02:06:40 @ClippedCoin @therealloomar
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Would love to see you make a video going over Th3Birdman, especially his Grifter video series. He used to be an entertaining content creator, making Everything Wrong With Cinemasins videos; critiquing and correcting Jeremy's incorrect "Sins" and review of the movies. But in recent years, he's been on a smear compaign to call TH-cam creators like Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic, EFAP, etc as Racists, Sexists, etc. And he even considers Bob and Actual Fandom as friends.
A lot of people got excited and carried away by Fallout coming to TV and also the great production value. But the plot is atrocious, just like everything these days from the states. Nothing is faithful to the source material. Just look at Halo. What a disaster. I not sure if I can even hate watch the second series.
It's just a series of Cut Scenes stitched together.
Max's character sheet (roughly): Strength: 4 Perception: 1 Endurance: 6 Charisma: 1 Intelligence: 2 Agility: 4 Luck: 10 Perks: Idiot Savant 3 Iron Fist 3 (Crushes looters head) Rooted (Funny power armor moment go haha) Aquaboy (Doesn't give a shit about swimming in gulpers lake) Lifegiver 2 (Plot armor) VANS (EVERY CHARACTER GOES TO THE SAME EXACT PLACES) Medic (TF2 Medic that watches teammate burn while laughing) Gunslinger (One taps Yao Guai) Pickpocket (steals fusion core) Bloody Mess (head go boom) Mysterious stranger (Thaddeus saves his ass with a single bullet at the gulper) Four Leaf Clover Better Criticals Critical Banker Beserk Rad Resistant
It felt like I was watching a video in the middle of a Livestream, cause I had no idea wtf was going on 🤣. Seriously, your channel was on my feed and I saw the "interesting" title. Then it starts and you don't explain what is going on and why you're making a video on this creator. I guess it's on Organized Chaos, whoever that is, but wow just wow. Just terrible
As somebody that loves film. You’re all cancer. Organized chaos, mauler. You all have nothing interesting or insightful to say. And most people that care about film, are better off watching zero TH-camrs.
Why are you here?
CORRECTION: Bob does not have a film degree. He went to college for film but did not graduate with a degree. He posted he went to college for film on his linkedin and I assumed he would only do that if he got a film degree, so that's my bad. Whenever I say "he has a degree in film" just know that while he went to college for film, he does not have a degree. I don't think it effects any of my arguments but I also don't want to spread a mistake.
1:05:15 bro literally stole that line from Vaush’s “I have yet to hear a convincing moral or legal argument as to why CP should be illegal” rant.
23:58 i hate that she gave him an out here kinda . If she had continued to grill him about the making video about other TH-camr thing he would have said something that would be extremely daming and made people see the type of idiot hypocrite he truly is
I assume you mean "you realize how many videos you would've made if that was said by them" in reference to the racial slur. Fun fact: that part of the conversation continues a bit past that point and his response to her saying that was "by them? I don't know why I would care" then tried deflecting to "Geeks and Gamers said worse" as she cut him off a bit. Afterwards, he legitimately doesn't seem to understand what her issue with saying that is. 😂
Lmfaooo
1:03:23 Ah yes, the good old show don't tell issue. The issue here is that there are two levels of interpretation going on. There is the surface level, which Organized Chaos operates on, and there's the deeper level that EFAP are operating on. The surface level is that, in a visual medium, you ought to visually show things play out instead of tell the audience what happened. Makes sense. But the thing is, show versus tell also exists in books, a non-visual medium. How does that work? Well, this is where we get to the deeper level interpretation of text versus subtext. Don't have characters outright say what they really mean, have them imply what they really mean. And in this case, a memory store, though very visual, is actually just telling, especially in how it is portrayed. There is no interpretation to be had, this is exactly what happened, it is just text. And talk about lucky that Doctor Strange just happened to step on the thing to make it activate and it just happened to pull out the memory that the plot needed from him. But dialogue, despite it being non-visual and seemingly just telling, can actually show a lot about a character via subtext. How do they describe the event? What do they choose to tell and what do they omit? Are they a reliable narrator of their own past? Do they have a different perspective with hindsight or do they feel the same now as they did while living in the event? And it is something that characters must deliberately engage in, there is no luck in dialogue. I've heard an alternate saying for show don't tell that I think causes less of this confusion. Serve don't feed. The creator of the art is like a waiter at a restaurant. They present food to the audience. They can control how it is presented, but you ought to let the patrons eat the food themselves, engage with it on their own terms. You wouldn't want the waiter to pick up the food and force feed it to you.
25:12 "Claims [MauLer's] brain can become a robot for analyzing media." I'm convinced that anybody who brings up "the robot" does not understand the purpose of the robot. MauLer has never said that his brain "becomes the robot". The robot was a hypothetical that he used against Just Write, I believe. It's purpose is that it is a simple input-output system, it will point out a flaw regardless of what media the flaw was in, a simplified representation of the methodology that MauLer tries to use to critique media. This is because Just Write was being a hypocrite with his criticism for Game of Thrones and the lack thereof for The Last Jedi. They'd share flaws, but Just Write ignores the ones in TLJ yet points out those same flaws in GoT because he enjoyed TLJ and let that affect his critiques. But Just Write never engaged with the hypothetical and blanket said that the robot doesn't exist. It would be better to describe it as a standard with which one ought to hold yourself to for your criticism to be more objective, to separate yourself from biases that you may have and to simply analyze the quality of the work itself first and foremost. And MauLer himself has said that he regrets ever bringing up the robot, not because it's bad inherently but because idiots like Organized Chaos and Actual Fandom take it in bad faith and say that he's calling himself a robot just like this and not a standard with which he holds himself to.
@@JohnDoe-yp3zv funny enough, “the robot” is what actually helped me get back into writing and taught me how to actually make better stories and characters. I’ll always appreciate Mauler for introducing that to me, but it also helps weeding out the disingenuous and malicious behavior people have in these this sphere.
Can't believe Bob was so racist that he didn't think Fringy was worth doxxing
Great video. This is really in depth. I didn't even know Bob responded to Loomar.
15:49 Strongly disagree, but to each their own.
I sometimes recommend Bob as an alternative to antidepressants, so this was fun and I hope he doesn’t take your advice. (Which he won’t.)
Hey Little Platoon! Love your content!
Hi Platoon! Glad to see a fellow ironic Bob Enjoyer in the comments here. Keep up the great content!
I'm baffled in which leveled confluence I am as a simple Organized Chaos aficionado. Or rather, the more thoughtful attempts on organizing the chaos he, and to a extend his mind, is.
Would love to see you do a video on him, would make my year
He's kinda like Boogie2988 in that way. He's everything you shouldn't be as a person and it's fun watching his brain struggle with those facts.
20:33 thats would take introspection
At least they aint these Anti-woke folks
The frustrating thing about "these people" is that they will engage in a behavior, when called out upon it they will deny it and then if you prove that they indeed engaged in said behavior they will act flippant and pretend like you're overreacting, that it doesn't even matter. Bob going through Maulers video to try and find homophobia should have been reason enough for him to ask himself whether he is being unreasonable but therein lies the absolute proof of how bad faith he is which, unsurprisingly, he doesn't care about because he thinks it's fine to be bad faith to those he consider bad. It's funny how someone can claim to be progressive and on the "good" side yet only spout hate without stopping for a second to reflect on whether he might be the bad guy after all. Good video!
Bob doesn't do self reflection. The bad faith also seems unconscious. I'm not sure he knows what bad faith is. He just...practices the behavior unknowingly.
@@BurgerWyister20 He literally says he is going to engage in bad faith in this video.
@@gnog1 yes, except he doesn't actually know what the word truly means.
Yo I saw your Fallout tv show critique a bit ago, didn't know ya did a video on Chaos lol edit: also just noticed that you're holding more and more cigarettes every so often you cut back to yourself Holy shit I cannot believe that Bob actually fucked covering synthetic man, that's like losing to a kid with cerebral palsy
Oh look. Another video dunking on this clown. Happy day!!! Its hard to believe that you care about the quality of art when you say that issues can be excused because "its just a comicbook movie".
The takeaway of this entire video for me is that Bob is merely an idiot with political brainrot, whereas his buttbuddy is an emotionally unstable wackjob that likes larping as an internet tough guy. Great bunch.
Damn, I only knew of OC through the Efap video, he's worse than I realized.
"I believe in you.. nobody ever has" Weirdly cult-leader-esque of The Act Fan
I don’t like making these sorts of accusations but this on top of everything else about this guy, along with how he spoke when saying this, leads me to strongly believe Dane is an abusive person.
1:27:26 I love and hate that some people (or most people sadly) cant remedially recognize when someone does a little uno reverse thought experiment on someone to show them how what there doing is terrible. The fact that sitch has to break it down to them... it was painful when it was live, it's just as painful now.
its Sitch and Adam!
“I just think that mauler guy is the leader of the fifth Reich if you wanna know the truth about it!” Bob chaos probably
SUFFAH BOBERT, SUFFAH ACTUAL FANS
there's no such thing as "good feminism" it was always about superiority and the death and rape or men.
tbf to nerdrotic he does point out that falcon was significant on his own, being marvel's first black character that didn't have "black" in his name and the first one to get an action figure i think bucky's powers fit the shield better and they could have still had sam be the leading man of the 2
I flipped a coin whether to include that clip segment or not, it's a cool story and good for both our arguments but in the end this video was long enough and I wanted to shorten clips where I could.
this guy has a child?.. god bless that poor thing, I can't fathom having this licentious creep for a father..
23:52 The lack of self awareness here😮. This is so cringe.
I've watched about everyone who has covered this guy and it never gets boring no matter how much i watch people be confused and get angry after like 10 mins of bullshit
@@the0peratoR i've probably watched more of OC than most people, but he's a fascinating and pathetic creature!
CLEARLY NOT OUR WORLD?!! NOT OUR WORLD?!!! WHAT WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN BOBBY BOY?!!
"did this movie have anything to actually say about society?" I'm fucking floored... are you kidding me?! I'm convinced this guy only hates this movie purely because it happened attract a lot of right-leaning fans, clearly we're the only ones trying to challenge the elites, we're the real rebels, we're the real counterculture, these woke pussies are nothing but rebel masquerading shills for the man.
*sigh* Calling out Organized Chaos is one thing, but calling out OC while running defense with other transparent film critic ideologues is beyond disingenuous. I have a lot of issues with Chaos but your issue with him isn't that an ideologue it's that a progressive ideologue. When it comes to alt-right ideologue like EVS, Rippa, Mauler, etc. you literally have nothing of substance to say about these people. Please, stop pretending that you're apolitical and objective when in reality you just as audience captured as anyone else.
How are Rippa and Mauler alt-right?
@@tymiller2903 Dude, I'm done with you. If it has to be explained to you then you're never going to get it.
@@thehacker4012 could you please point to a single example of either of them having an alt-right belief?
Not apolitical and didn't claim to be, I even argue politics in this video. I give a bias statement before each creator if I think it's relevant, including EVS, who I don't like, who I point to one of OCs arguments being good (and underutilized). This video isn't about those other creators, this video is about OC, that's why I talk about OC. I hear your complaints but they don't apply to this video.
"He disagrees with people I like" @@tymiller2903
clown person is the worst racial slur
I didn't know Mauler and Rags even had faces
bob's theme: "my name is bob and I'm looking like a slob my name is bob and I need to get a job"
It should be pretty fucking easy for him since he’s an “engineer”
lesson: never go woke, lest you lose your soul and your mind..
This man has a stranglehold on my brain I can't stand him but for some reason, I can't stop wanting to learn more about this weird homunculus.
This is quite a blast from the past. LOL! In more ways than one.
Rag's's: 'I hate these racist, xenophobic bigots' OC: 'Look! He's being racist!'
typical conservative/liberal interaction, the right wing patriots actively fight against racism whilst the blue bastards incessantly accuse us of it, even though they're the ones keeping racism alive and honoring scourge like Hitler.
A long time in the making, makes having watched those OC streams almost worth it.
It's my 3rd time watching this I've just now noticed the amount o cigs in your hand slowly increases goes form 1 to 500
It didn't really upset Rags and MauLer to have these two jonklers sharing their names and faces, they know they are out there on the internet for sleuths to uncover. But they recognize the disingenuous and disrespectful nature of their attempts at engagement. OC and AF are just pitiful.
It's the principal of the thing really. A failed intimidation is still an attempted intimidation. The fact AF and Bob are so willing to resort to such tactics shows exactly who they are as people. As much as i want to feel pity for somebody like OC, he makes it very difficult to pity him much.
Watching EFAP cover them was super entertaining I admit. But there is also something that kinda makes me sad they had to come across these idiots in the first place.
@@trevorsalamander8711 There is definitely a tragic element to OC and his friend group. Bob is a sad person who unfortunately, i cannot see changing. An ideologue trapped in the deepest depths of culture war nonsense. A man who has realized he has added nothing to the world, and has dedicated himself to a worthless cause in order to try to leave something of an impact.
Yeah I honestly don't care about people's appearance I really only make a deal about it if I already don't like someone.
It doesn’t surprise me that he doesn’t understand other people’s opinions when he thinks cannon doesn’t matter.
Just don't obsess over cannon to a cartoonish degree.
@@allthedumbthingz-oc5cc 1. "Cannon" is wrong, those are the big guns usually on wheels. You want "canon". You too, OP. 2. People don't exactly choose what details of a story or setting they remember or find relevant, or choose how they feel when these bits of established canon are violated in a new sequel or spinoff or whatever. If someone doesn't like when a new work contradicts aspects of a universe they are invested in, why is that a problem?
people like him don't register as human to me, these are breathing dead people.
@321cheeseman I just don't consider the "canon breaking" stuff they complain about to be big deals. Like who cares if Iceman is gay now? Or there being more than one Spiderman? Most people I've seen who complain about canon are usually making mountains out of molehills of minor details that don't matter much in the long run. And really? The first thing you point out is a tiny spelling error? There's something wrong with your priorities. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised as you might be a canon obsessed weirdo.
@@allthedumbthingz-oc5cc I didn't ask about and don't care which details matter to you personally. I'm sure many things that are mountains to you are molehills to someone else. That sort of thing ain't the point. I want to talk principles. Foundations. I want to know why you believe it's wrong for someone to be bothered when the details of a world they're invested in are changed or disregarded. I want to know, because I don't believe a satisfactory answer exists. I think *_everyone_* has some lines they don't want crossed with media they care about, and this is completely normal and reasonable.
Ew Fallout 4
I'll make that video one of these days
I searched this comment. xD
Good job dude, this really hits the nail on the head when it comes to how OC operates. It's honestly extremely funny to listen to him sometimes, and I have a feeling he will keep giving us high-quality, enjoyable, and informative content for years to come. I look forward to your next video, keep up the good work :)
Long in the making, awesome to see this project finally out here. Welcome to the league of long men
what a pleasant surprise this was