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This was great. I was quite engaged throughout. I thought I was might find it too complex for me to understand, but it was very accessible. The most reassuring conversation I have heard since the 3 headed coalition started running a rampage. Thank you from Maria

Need to look at Nationals donations as well!!

Thoroughly enjoyable again. Many thanks

Hi Helen, in regards David's comments around the 48 minute mark, I believe you would greatly appreciate Prof Michael Hudson's alternative (MMT - Modern Money Theory) perspective on sovereign govt. spending and govt. deficits. You can listen to him on his youtube channel and in various other interviews on this platform. The issue isn't so much the size of the deficit, rather to what purpose and activity those new dollars, yen, etc, and mobilising (ideally govt. spending being directed at serving the public purpose and public infrastructure). With the so-called "public debt" in actuality being the "net money supply", or "net dollar denominated assets of the entire private sector", namely the only thing that can reduce private debt.

Why is 'long Covid' only affecting the vaccinated ? Are you still recommending to Vaccinate 6 month old babies & Pregnant mothers with the Pfizer experimental Mnra serum ?

I see Canada has just ordered ALL the covid vaccines to be destroyed as of the 1st of Sept. ?????

8 heat attacks , 2 strokes , 1 Cancer in my small street in 3 years ... All Vaxed , The unvaxed not even a cold ?

I would suggest that anyone has long covid fatigue symptoms, change your diet. Remove carbohydrates. Is long covid in the mRNA injected or the ones who are not?

I wish to report my observations. I have seen that those who have mRNA appear to be constantly sick. Excess deaths are constantly occurring. All drugs have side effects. I also dropped eating bread as of 2023, when folic acid was introduced. I worked out. I already had lots of foliate, and the introduction of folic acid into bread would create a constant excess in my system. The side effects could be considerable, including cognitive damage.

They are not believers in reality, reality sucks!!🎉

A good review from prof. Tate. I never had covid but after vaccination my ME/Fibromyalgia became worse and I developed a lung clot and a unusual heart condition affecting my BP and inducing postural othostatic tachycardia.

So why in nz aren’t we allowed to trial at our own cost and risk common safe drugs that may work for a small number of us but their is no way of knowing until trialing, and why am I. Not allowed to take a test at my cost that proves I have not had Covid but have long vax injuries, over seas info now indicates that 10-12% of long Covid patients are actually vax injuries

Trust God lean not on your own understanding in all your ways acknowledge him and he will direct your path. God is coming soon put your life in God's hands and trust him.

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God came that we might have life and life more abundance. Our healer. Draw close to Jesus Christ and he will draw near to you. Fear not God says, I have not given you a spirit of fear but love peace and soundness of mind. Some have a form of Godliness but denying the power there of.😊

How many of these registered LC sufferers took at least one 'vaccination'? I know some naughty, selfish, 'un-kind' people who declined the experimental gene therapy and got fired due to govt mandates but have still not had covid - they are poor but extremely healthy. They say LC is a jab injury - they are naughty, selfish and un-kind (and extremely healthy) tho...

My heart goes out to all of those who are ill. This is very real and debilitating for them regardless of the cause. They are also caught in a web of confusion between the medical establishment, and those who have disagreed and think a large part of it is due to the jabs. The gamut of opinion is quite wide, which tells me there is too much propaganda, lies, and cover up happening. It also shows us that as a global culture we have so much more to learn in the area of medicine and especially infectious diseases. The average doctor really doesn’t specialize in this area and has little training in it. The level of fear and anxiety that was created in 2020 onward is likely partially responsible in my opinion. I had an acquaintance call me one day and he ranted for almost 30 minutes about why the authorities we’re not doing “even more” to control the virus. (in hindsight, most of the restrictions were not necessary now that we have more information)This person was almost insane with fear, frustration and anger and had not been out of their house for months, except for necessary grocery runs. Distress in the body is so toxic and responsible for many illnesses. If we don’t learn to have these difficult conversations and look at ALL the facts, the truth will remain hidden and millions will continue to suffer needlessly. Censorship and control will not help and will create even more distrust.

BlackRock and China for New Zealand promotes 'infrastructure development': th-cam.com/video/88VU1JjmEps/w-d-xo.html

I agree that delivering infrastructure should be an apolitical process but how do we get the politicians to stand aside and let that happen?

how rude some people can be, check yourselves!

Sod off globalist, communist.

Infrastructure deficit..? You mean like China ripping off Mainzeal..? Or do you mean Luxon trying to get the Chinese to build our roads..? Or do you mean Geoffrey Palmer's notion of Zealandia to start selling deep sea minerals to China? Or do you mean more unaccountable UNICEF (Bill Gates) directives from their office inside the Department of Education..? Or do you mean more unaccountable surveillance technology monitoring our every move? Or do you mean more unaccountable and unwanted 5-G towers (the radiation which kill human cells...see Epoch TV 'professor kills human cells in his lab with EMF')..?

How can decrease risk of Covid19 ? Did we know at what tissue temperature did SARS COV2 better replicate ? Why ? Because SARS COV2 better replicate at low tissue temperature. At TWiV 659 at min29 virologist Christian Drosten suggest that to replicate SARS COV2 in different tissues must decrease incubator temperature to 34C -35C But is weakened by different causes, how can maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature ? Maybe mask wearing not only stop droplets, but also maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature. Did we know what weak thermogenesis ? If SARS COV2 infection occur,maybe at some patients cryoglobuline like antibody occur. Like in Waldenstrom syndroms after some cronic infection, that can increase blood viscousity ,especially if blood temperature decrease

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why the weird into?

My husband and I both had Covid in Aug '20, before vaccines were available. Not much info available early on. I could not completely recover my energy, nor could i completely get over clearing my throat -- it was almost a constant issue. In a later video on Covid symptoms, i first heard about long Covid AND the possibility that ivermectin could treat those symptoms. I did get a prescription for it, it is treated according to your weight. It worked within a week! Now, my problems were very very slight compared to those discussed here. BUT I have never had a recurrence of those issues, I have never had a reinfection of Covid or any of the variants, nor have I ever had a Covid vax. The U.S. CDC had initially banned the use of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin to treat Covid-19, so I was very lucky to have a doctor who prescribed it for me. Within the last few months, miraculously the U.S. CDC had reinstated the use of both these drugs.

They just don't get it. The preamble in this presentation is what I have heard about my business life. This group presents the central government control approach to business. This never works. Government purpose is to manage business rules agreed to by citizens of the country and only that. Innovation is only an entrepreneurial function of business and can never be created by the government. The primary thing the government can do is base policy on evidence based science in environmental and social sciences. The primary pillar of the environment today is "carbon footprint". In the social sciences is personal wealth. In both of these this symposium falls into the same old traps. CO2 is a gas that is as important to our existence as oxygen. Base your business environmental policy on pollution issues but not "carbon footprint"! Secondly, central banking control of money DOES NOT WORK! Transform your economy from using a centralized money management system to the best money management system ever invented by the human experience which is Bitcoin. Educate yourself on Bitcoin and use it!!!!

Thank you for this

I know the question period is over, but how does one know if they have LC or post vaccine related injury or illness? I got covid shortly after receiving the vaccine, so I’m not sure why I have these symptoms (2 years later and still not well). My USA Dr says there are no protocols or cures to help me.

Funnily enough I am unvaccinated and I don't have Long Covid. We were told that Covid was a disease of the unvaccinated. I wonder how many vaccines you need to have to prevent long Covid? What a joke this is. Laughable that vaccination is not even considered to be a possible causative agent especially as most of the long Covid cases are in the vaccinated.

Es gibt kein Long - Covid. Es sind die beschissenen Impfungen und Booster!!!

Children's Health Defence interview reporting that Gain of Function work is being done by the Chinese and US on Bird Flu (just as they did with covid 19). It was said 10% - 15% of sufferers will die so will be more serious than covid 19. As a Long Covid sufferer I find this possibility very frightening as I am nearly 80yrs old and have been diagnosed with Primary Immune Deficiency. I did not have jabs as I was suspicious of covid 19 and jabs which was proved by witnessing so many folk affected by it.

They were all Vitamin D deficient when they caught the virus. They did nothing and they took nothing to stop viral replication, and their bodies were overwhelmed by the onslaught. The remedies to help the body fight the infection and help the body heal post-infection are all well documented and available for those who care to look. Hint; you won't find it under official sources. There. Sorted it for you. You're welcome.

Did you use the fake pcr test😂😂😂

I was very ill with covid in icu when it first arrived , it has slowed me down terribly, I have painful joint ache now , I’m tired a lot , NO it is not taken anywhere near seriously enough I have not had a single call or letter to ask how I’m doing , I had good care in hospital, but since then NOTHING

Thank goodness...Hopefully GPs will finally acknowledge the real importance of this sickness from affected people like myself and all others that have suffered. Have had covid 3 times and not seeing anything at the end of the tunnel and LC over and over I think.Its with me forever. Cheers.

If high amount of IgM occur,and if cryoglobuline effect also, increasing blood viscousity ,may be NAC(N acetylcisteine) can be useful ( but avoiding overdosage)?

How can maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature, If thermogenesis are weakened by different causes ? May be surgical mask wearing not only stop droplets,but also maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature ?

But did we know at what tissue temperature did SARS COV2 better replicate ? Why ? Because at TWiV 659 at min29 Christian Drosten suggest that SARS COV2 better replicate at very low tissue temperature (34C). Theoretically if we mitigate SARS COV2 infection,may be risk of long Covid diminish . May be use of antipiretic analgezic drugs if SARS COV2 infection occur,it is not the best choice ?

So many thoughtless people by sounds of it, 🎉not only dealing with being sick, its a double whammy of sickness, sickness of the mind!❤🎉🎉🎉

Long C0vid vax

Dr Bruce Arrol is a strong promoter of Lightening Process - (see the recent Goodfellow Unit March 2024 symposium. Health pathways also seems to promote LProcess for teens - go have a look.

Gosh - if 8.5 k of people were blocked due to wrong information about vaccine injury - this in itself is interesting and important to know for future public health messages - and mental health responses - what causes such wrong info - I have long wondered if traumatisation in early life produces mistrust - etc etc...

I did ask our Dr to consider LDnaltrexone for a while, in case it helped and sent him a paper on it....he just relied that that was not a treatment for LC and would not help except if the patient was drinking alcohol a lot! Why are we paying for GP's who do not even know much about this stuff. It is very disheartening.

Dang, I missed it - sent questions in beforehand though. My husband is affected by LC - 4 months since his first positive Covid test (RAT) and he just can't get back to energy levels anywhere near normal...18 or so symptoms inc light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, aches, sick feeling in gut when tired (every few hours)...etc etc. We have in his family line, a history of several people with ME/CFS - 12 years for one person and 28 for another, and distance maternal cousin and her sone - affected for many year.

Long co-vid = the elephant in the room, the co-vid clot shots.

I'm very impressed and grateful for this comprehensive webinar and the input of all participants. Jenine, your description of LC recovery as "snakes and ladders" was spot on... For the first time today, for me I have heard someone actually state, publicly and emphatically, that with regard to Long Covid services NZ MUST DO BETTER. The official neglect to date has been shameful. It was very interesting to hear the suggestion of AI-assisted diagnosis for long covid victims, because the I believe the dismissal and denial that LC patients have received from the medical community has been very harmful. I was pleased to hear Professor Tate mention neuroligical impacts which it seems to me NZ providers have been particularly resistant to or ignorant of, causing another layer of harm to patients with LC. Thank you all for the valuable input.

Great webinar. Can see there is h to do to still so much to do to get closer to GP acceptance of these post viral illnesses, biomarkers, treatments and ultimately cure. I have 2 severely disabled young adult children, housebound with ME. Watching this space closely. Both my kids are desparate to be well and contributing to society again. But neither has even the energy to advocate for themselves. Thankyou Helen Clark Foundation for this webinar.

Interesting Perspective Epic

Thankyou for this great conversation illuminating and helpful and reassuring to understand what can be done to help the country in the future. Climate change is massive but there are things we can do with National nooooooo!!!