The interesting thing about this scene to me was that it always made me suspect Jim was a Labour MP. Or at least Tom from the Opposition seems more like a classic Tory. All the "dear boy"s he throws around etc etc
Something else this clip illustrates is how many policies the governing and opposition parties agree on. We usually only hear about the ones on which they disagree because controversy sells news. But I'd bet that 75% of all legislation is agreed on by most MPs of all parties.
Which platform showcases this old TV series? I’ve checked Apple TV, Amazon and Netflix but cannot find this series listed under any of these platforms.
@@karthiksubramaniam6951 Thank you. I was able to find these episodes. You are right in saying that person who uploaded these episodes is a kindly benevolent soul.
The most interesting thing here is that in YPM, Sir Humphrey uses the same trick again and the first thing Hacker does is go to the last box and check the back, which shows he does at least learn the same tricks Tom has.
You know what I love about this scene? The cordiality and politeness with which Jim and Tom speak with each other, even if they are Government and Opposition. They even belong to the same club!
That's how it works in real life too. Here in France you've got politicians from all sides all coming from just a couple of schools. It's no surprise we alternate left and right all the time. Maybe it's for the best.
@@duncandrake2580 This should be about any (non) functioning "democracy" that needs more than words (like quotes and brackets in which this phrase is) to describe it accurately.
The problem is that with the advent of Johnson, this no longer holds good. You have him running amok, unable to make timely decisions about the pandemic when he has professionals giving him good advice. You have in the series, Jim Hacker whose politics are like a weathervane willing to grab at cheap easy publicity conscious moves and with an inability to plan long term. Humphrey Appleby was around in easier times when politicians were better than the dreadfully unfit crew and the blundering amateur Hackers can do more damage. Appleby’s comments on here today gone tomorrow politicians are very apt. You also have the increasing politicisation of civil servants which started with Thatcher. The conception of this series, if not it’s execution into the Yes Prime Minister series predated Thatcher.
The first time I watched this show it made me angry, since then I have just enjoyed it. I guess it is just a reflection of us the public, we are not fair in our dealings too in our daily affairs, am sure if we get bigger opportunities to deceive others financially or otherwise, we wouldn't hesitate. On a lighter note, I never get tired of this show, for me it is the best show ever.
Just think, this is two politicians on complete oppostite parties discussing how best to get around the civil service and get something implemented that will actually be beneficial for the country...how come we don't see this kind of joint cooperation in real life or today's politics?
Superb... and uniquely British. From the fall of the Berlin Wall to a united Germany =- 11 months, with no prepatration at all. If a post-war divided Britain was being re-united in similar circumstances, after 30 years, the preliminary arrangments may have been finalised.....
So, how the hell are they getting Brexit done so quickly? You would think the civil service would stall and stall and stall despair the country that disaster. If things were the way that they were in the show, they would do it for no other reason than to maintain the status quo. Instead, the UK is moving forward with it and strangling itself in the process. If reports are to be believed coming from the place, there are actual food shortages because of it. People are losing livelihoods all around the country and times are just getting tough for no other reason than they decided to pull out of the single market.
@@philomelodia I would not have said that the "progress" since the EU referendum, 5+ years ago, has been rapid. It is being stalled by the civil service at every stage... hence the sluggardly rate of change.
An ideal government should balance the youthful desire for change with the aged knowledge of what works, the spirituality of the Saint with the pragmatism of the soldier, and above all the will of the people with the means to fulfil it. I used to love watching this show at the time. I wondered how the writers got away with it.
More of a Documentary actually. Back in the Great days of Television. Can't say that stuff now. Don't make TV shows like that these days. .......................Just pick one to use in any comment below.
sounds to me like Mitch McConnel? The Republicans are all about creative inertia! Spend wildly on tax breaks so there is nothing left for social programs & infrastructure
The romans didn't have a beureucratic corps until the empire and fairly late in the empire. The republic had politicians on all the posts which is why nothing worked at all because their one goal was to fleece their office as much as posisble before the next election.
@@leftcoaster67 Yup. There is a great exchange between Hacker and his wife later in the episode Jim: "The opposition aren't the opposition Annie: "Oh how silly of me they are just called the opposition." Jim: "They're only the opposition in exile the civil service as the opposition in residence."
@@perperson199 Listening to old Parliamentary debates and watching joint interviews from decades ago, it's amazing to see the level of courtesy between politicians from different parties, and it wasn't just the mandated politeness of "my noble friend from the other side." I'm sure most of it was the fact that the people in power were more likely to share a common background (a Labour MP from Oxford and a Tory from Oxford still both went to, you know, Oxford), but there's something to be said for the parties being made up of people who respect each other even if they disagree, as opposed to the clown show it's become in a lot of cases.
@@insertclevername4123 Agreed. But Labour used to have quite a few labourers in their rank, now they only have liberal middle class people. Oxford types are now common on both sides, but there is no integrity
My favourite story about this show came from David cameron. When he was an undergrad in the 1980s he wrote a university essay about how the show was unrealistic and cynical. 30 years later he was prime minister and realised that his essay has been wrong and that the show is in fact entirely, painfully accurate .
Just googled it, it was true. The writer of this series is really amazing at delivering entertaining yet extremely accurate portrayal of how UK government run.
In NZ we used to have a minister called Richard Prebble (he was an idiot but that is another story). During an interview at the time Yes Minister was very popular on TV here, he was asked what he thought of it. He replied that he thought it was very funny, but said what is even funnier, is that all the viewers didn't realise they were actually watching documentary, not a comedy.
Creative Inertia! Masterly Inactivity!
The interesting thing about this scene to me was that it always made me suspect Jim was a Labour MP. Or at least Tom from the Opposition seems more like a classic Tory. All the "dear boy"s he throws around etc etc
Jim and Tom- Divided by politics and ideology, united by Humphrey Appleby.
No wonder nothing gets done in my country
That very last sentence is quite chilling.
Something else this clip illustrates is how many policies the governing and opposition parties agree on. We usually only hear about the ones on which they disagree because controversy sells news. But I'd bet that 75% of all legislation is agreed on by most MPs of all parties.
in Australia on a state basis, They all went to the same University and in all probability the same primary and secondary schools.
It's not a mere TV show, it's a gift to humanity.
Which platform showcases this old TV series? I’ve checked Apple TV, Amazon and Netflix but cannot find this series listed under any of these platforms.
Some kind soul uploaded a lot of it to DailyMotion. Just search google for the title of the show along with S0xE0x and you should see it
@@karthiksubramaniam6951 Thank you. I was able to find these episodes. You are right in saying that person who uploaded these episodes is a kindly benevolent soul.
Not all of them. Just a few hundred 😂
His impression of Sir Humphrey is spot on.
Exactly, the mannerism is spot-on!
Humphrey's face when Jim sorts everything out is priceless. One of the few times Jim held an advatage
only in the interest of good government
If anybody reads anything into this show other then it being a satirical comedy are fooling themselves and need to get a life
Oh how we wish your words were true...one would imagine someone who would make a suggestion is, in fact, an official!
'Make the national database less of a Big Brother'. When did we lose those values?
9-11. The Yanks started doing it and all of the sudden everone was.
@@DaDunge Spot on.
Best TV series ever.
The most interesting thing here is that in YPM, Sir Humphrey uses the same trick again and the first thing Hacker does is go to the last box and check the back, which shows he does at least learn the same tricks Tom has.
Ah yes, the masterly 'Northern Indian Situation Report' from 'A Victory for Democracy'. Great stuff.
@@vydaveIndeed, Luke did a splendid job, even got a promotion as an ambassador in Israel! Though he felt a bit hesitant for some reason...
@@sgt.thompson98 Oh, I'm sure he was just being modest. We know the Israelis love him.
If only it weren't (de facto, not de jure) a documentary.
No.
You know what I love about this scene? The cordiality and politeness with which Jim and Tom speak with each other, even if they are Government and Opposition. They even belong to the same club!
Probably a bar in the House of Commons.
That's how it works in real life too. Here in France you've got politicians from all sides all coming from just a couple of schools. It's no surprise we alternate left and right all the time. Maybe it's for the best.
"This is a British Democracy!"
Probably across the world they all share drinks in the evening. The day fights are for the public to consume.
@@duncandrake2580 This should be about any (non) functioning "democracy" that needs more than words (like quotes and brackets in which this phrase is) to describe it accurately.
The man with the foot
The problem is that with the advent of Johnson, this no longer holds good. You have him running amok, unable to make timely decisions about the pandemic when he has professionals giving him good advice. You have in the series, Jim Hacker whose politics are like a weathervane willing to grab at cheap easy publicity conscious moves and with an inability to plan long term. Humphrey Appleby was around in easier times when politicians were better than the dreadfully unfit crew and the blundering amateur Hackers can do more damage. Appleby’s comments on here today gone tomorrow politicians are very apt. You also have the increasing politicisation of civil servants which started with Thatcher. The conception of this series, if not it’s execution into the Yes Prime Minister series predated Thatcher.
Yeah after Johnsson the naysayer civil servants are suddenly the only thing keeping the politicians from collapsing the country.
The first time I watched this show it made me angry, since then I have just enjoyed it. I guess it is just a reflection of us the public, we are not fair in our dealings too in our daily affairs, am sure if we get bigger opportunities to deceive others financially or otherwise, we wouldn't hesitate. On a lighter note, I never get tired of this show, for me it is the best show ever.
This isn't even "comedy" anymore. What an amazing scene. Thanks for sharing. This is actually making me feel outraged (as it was meant to ).
This script is absolutely genius.
All three actors were absolutely brilliant, but Nigel hawthorn absolute legend,
Too cool.
But, of course, The Swamp and The Deep State are just paranoid right-wing conspiracy fantasies.....
👍👍👍😂😂😂
Just think, this is two politicians on complete oppostite parties discussing how best to get around the civil service and get something implemented that will actually be beneficial for the country...how come we don't see this kind of joint cooperation in real life or today's politics?
BBC employs same tactics ... mind manipulation.
Superb... and uniquely British. From the fall of the Berlin Wall to a united Germany =- 11 months, with no prepatration at all. If a post-war divided Britain was being re-united in similar circumstances, after 30 years, the preliminary arrangments may have been finalised.....
So, how the hell are they getting Brexit done so quickly? You would think the civil service would stall and stall and stall despair the country that disaster. If things were the way that they were in the show, they would do it for no other reason than to maintain the status quo. Instead, the UK is moving forward with it and strangling itself in the process. If reports are to be believed coming from the place, there are actual food shortages because of it. People are losing livelihoods all around the country and times are just getting tough for no other reason than they decided to pull out of the single market.
@@philomelodia I would not have said that the "progress" since the EU referendum, 5+ years ago, has been rapid. It is being stalled by the civil service at every stage... hence the sluggardly rate of change.
@@philomelodia Easy they just capitulated on everything.
An ideal government should balance the youthful desire for change with the aged knowledge of what works, the spirituality of the Saint with the pragmatism of the soldier, and above all the will of the people with the means to fulfil it. I used to love watching this show at the time. I wondered how the writers got away with it.
Because it was aired when Maggie Thatcher was in office and she loved it.
Creative inertia! Yes, I want it.
More of a Documentary actually. Back in the Great days of Television. Can't say that stuff now. Don't make TV shows like that these days. .......................Just pick one to use in any comment below.
Brilliant, every time I see a clip of this wonderful and instructive series.. Unsurpassed.
This series is the best guide to how politics and civil service works, or better, doesn't work.
Blowing in the wind until manifested
Brilliant scene... I love the expressions on Jim's face as he realizes what is going on.
How do you know when an MP is lying - their lips are moving
sounds to me like Mitch McConnel? The Republicans are all about creative inertia! Spend wildly on tax breaks so there is nothing left for social programs & infrastructure
classic classic classic. Experience never gets old.
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The sir Humphreys have been around since dawn of Administration. You think the Roman secretariat, or the Chinese mandarins etc didn't do the same?
The romans didn't have a beureucratic corps until the empire and fairly late in the empire. The republic had politicians on all the posts which is why nothing worked at all because their one goal was to fleece their office as much as posisble before the next election.
Tom was willing to help his political opponent just to get back at Humphrey think about that for a moment.
Well they both have the same enemy. The administrative won't.
@@leftcoaster67 Yup. There is a great exchange between Hacker and his wife later in the episode Jim: "The opposition aren't the opposition Annie: "Oh how silly of me they are just called the opposition." Jim: "They're only the opposition in exile the civil service as the opposition in residence."
Yes, you're right, but they are also gentlemen. Some of that spirit is still expected today, despite so few gentlemen remaining.
@@perperson199 Listening to old Parliamentary debates and watching joint interviews from decades ago, it's amazing to see the level of courtesy between politicians from different parties, and it wasn't just the mandated politeness of "my noble friend from the other side." I'm sure most of it was the fact that the people in power were more likely to share a common background (a Labour MP from Oxford and a Tory from Oxford still both went to, you know, Oxford), but there's something to be said for the parties being made up of people who respect each other even if they disagree, as opposed to the clown show it's become in a lot of cases.
@@insertclevername4123 Agreed. But Labour used to have quite a few labourers in their rank, now they only have liberal middle class people. Oxford types are now common on both sides, but there is no integrity
My favourite story about this show came from David cameron. When he was an undergrad in the 1980s he wrote a university essay about how the show was unrealistic and cynical. 30 years later he was prime minister and realised that his essay has been wrong and that the show is in fact entirely, painfully accurate .
Just googled it, it was true. The writer of this series is really amazing at delivering entertaining yet extremely accurate portrayal of how UK government run.
Just shows what a hopeless judge of character & situations that over promoted Etonian arse wipe was! 🤬🤓🇬🇧🏴
In NZ we used to have a minister called Richard Prebble (he was an idiot but that is another story). During an interview at the time Yes Minister was very popular on TV here, he was asked what he thought of it. He replied that he thought it was very funny, but said what is even funnier, is that all the viewers didn't realise they were actually watching documentary, not a comedy.
@@ianjacques-keen5945 I guess you were such a bright mind when you were undergrad? Who are you now?
I bet Dodgy Dave only shared that in the hope of being forgiven for what a shitshow his government was.
It's a brilliant series .
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Brilliant 🇬🇧
...if l knew that, l wouldn't be in opposition....