In this final episode of the series, Dr. Sally Adnams Jones and Dr. Jen Peer Rich share their takeaways from this podcast and talk about what they've learned from this yearlong work of heart.
1:37 Jen says they published their maiden episode “Who are we?” on January 15 of 2023. They talked about their unique but also similar paths that brought them together. They experienced their own journeys of transformation, then became students of transformation, and are now educators about transformation. They embarked on defining transformation over 26 episodes, looking at the many, various facets of transformation. They started by defining transformation and what it looks, and feels like. Then they moved to the fractal nature of transformation, and introduced one of the beloved mascot of the podcast, ‘the pair of ducks’. Paradox is an essential characteristic of transformation. Then they moved to the holonic nature of transformation in episode four. In subsequent episodes, they explored things like modes of transformation, healing the subject-object split, the flow of ‘merging’ and ‘emerging’. Then they created a mini-series on creativity and transformation, exploring how essential creativity is to the transformative journey. Then they looked at what inhibits, influences or ignites transformation - such as trauma, the meaning crisis, various developmental models, having peak experiences, and working with our unconscious minds, such as dreamwork, shadow work and multiple intelligences. Following that, they looked at ways to measure transformation, and then finally in episode 25, the future of transformation. They’ve created a holistic container, practical and grounded in a variety of views and lenses, including theorists, artists, and stakeholders within the field of transformation, giving a comprehensive view of this dynamic topic. So today, they’ll highlight some of their essential takeaways from this year of deep learning - about, from and within the flow of transformation.
6:06 Sally raises a cup in gratitude to the shared journey of the past year. Despite different journeys, they were brought together through synchronicity. Jung was one of the founders of the idea of synchronicity, and suggested the more you get into your own flow, and go deeper into the psyche through therapeutic process, the more the interconnected synchronicities will start showing up. Jen and Sally had both reached the same conclusion - that they needed to really understand this process of transformation, because they both felt like they’d been through the washing machine, tumbling and tumbling, struggling to breathe, and then eventually beginning to surf the waves instead of fighting them - learning how to work with embodied nervous systems to start surfing troubled waters; then learning to actively cultivate deeper transformation. And then Jen heard Sally somewhere on the internet, and contacted her and said, she wasn’t the only geek with a PhD in transformation. How about they co create? And so at that point, they embodied the synthesis they’ve been talking about - a coming together of two parts, into a bigger whole, as they created a podcast on that exact topic. So they feel like they’re part of what they're teaching. They have experienced that pattern, acting out in their own life. When you see that pattern, you begin to trust that the universe is beneficent, even through all the hardships. They feel the universe has their back, and yours, that this whole process is an activation of highest potentials. So here they are celebrating that, possibly as Process Theologists, or Panentheists, believing in the intelligent field that has our best interests at heart. The podcast took a deeply researched dive into multiple fields of study, to show how, despite intense moments of suffering. These can be the deepest learning times, turning carbon into diamond, through intense pressure. There's an old saying of beating swords into plowshares. We need to accept pressure, pain and suffering, as it can also have our best interests at heart. The podcast speaks about the yin and the yang as the core ‘pair of ducks’. ‘Pain and pleasure’ work together, to bring us into the understanding of unity. And when you find that unity - within or amongst you - there's a biofeedback of intense pleasure, despite the pain, so even when you're feeling the pain, there's a background radiation of subliminal joy, that cannot be extinguished. Sally shares some of the story of the three times in her life, she was forced, due to pressures of circumstance, to leave a situation with just a suitcase, when she was 17, 28, and 48.
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