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Speaking of additional seed sources, are new Virginia sourced longleaf finally being planted in some of the gaps and openings created by harvesting or the death of the older planted loblolly pines, in places like the Zuni Pine Barrens? I'd love to see a video showing either the seedlings, or small trees if they are growing. I recall you doing a video on the subject last year, but no longleaf were shown. Double posted since I don't know if you saw this comment as a reply.

10 acres was hardly even worth attempting. Unless the city has either the budget, or a volunteer forest management company who will volunteer to burn those 10 acres every 2 or 3 years, and in the growing season to kill the loblolly and sweet gum, it was just a short term feel good project for someone. Probably, there should be minimum acreages for these projects if they get other public funds, to discourage the waste of money on project like these. Virginia will be better served with fewer larger acreage stands and forests of longleaf than with these type of very poorly restored micro sites.

Date of burn? Age of young pines?

Very well!

I work the the Georgia Forestry and your correct, you can’t see shit in a fire dozer

Any chance of a follow-up to this or other sites that are young planted longleaf experiencing a first or second burn?

A simple run with a disc attachment on a john deere would have kept that in place.

When i first saw firefighters do this (at age 10) i was very confused, because isn't firefighters there to fight fires? But then after reading about it i realized they were fighting fires. By removing fuel on the ground and burning off the top layer it'll be much harder for a fire to find purchase and grow into a wildfire, it is literally "fight fire with fire".

Wish I could be a dozer operator in Forestry

This is unfortunately how most forest fires start but they don't want you to know that. Keep the whole climate change thing going...

This is how most forest fires start.

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looks like its doing the same thing again with the Polk Road Fire right now. 16,000acres so far.

Any chance there are 2023 follow-up videos to these sites?

I am not sure why this was recommended to me, but what is the point? Lumber? This forest looks dead and unhealthy and so does the soil.

Ah, excellent.

All I see is Loblolly. Is TNC opening up the stand and planting any Virginia seed source Longleaf?

HAVING TOUR CAMERA ON YOUR HELMET SPOIKS AA OF YOUR VIDEOS.

By any chance do you use the burns to teach fire controls? I have had a little training through a vol fire dept. and it was to help keep fires from overtaking miles of crop (soybean, millet, cotton and corn) that will go up in flames faster than fat wood. Please consider offering this as a safety and learning opportunity. We were taught by a former HotShot/Smoke Jumper. The things you learn really put a new respect for the dangers of fires front and center

My hubby is a Ret. Battalion Captain Firefighter/Paramedic. He's told me about hundreds of fires they set. It's great for new growth of the Forrest and helps control wild fires.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A CAMERA PERSON INSTEAD OF WATCHING THE BOUNCY HELMAT CAMERA.

From central VA. Love to see what you do!!!!

Bay fires in the southeast ain't no joke. Give me a mountain fire any day over one of these.

Great vid, iv been trying to find something like this!!

Open cab all the way

Drones particularly ones with thermal can be really helpful for all kinds of fire or rescue incidents, from searches to getting a better assessment on structure fires and all in between. I'm curious though, that has the ability to start burnouts? Is it more or less a modified drip torch or incendiaries or flares? Was watching and thinking about what they've done with drones in Ukraine and that a drone which could set backfires in areas with hard access could open a lot of options for wildland fires but it seems that's already happening...

Thanks for sharing!

Fire is such a great tool

Converging flame fronts from the flank and head? What were your conditions during the burn? Looked like you had some wind to move heat but the vortex where the two fronts merged negated the wind long enough to scorch.

Nice to know we’re not the only crew that’s had to do this!

Great burn, I could just tell from the footage!

Yea, it’s been commented already, a more reliable firebreak, wind shifts happen to all of us. Like I’ve said before, we just burned one part a little ahead of schedule-ha!

Put down some hand line or dozer line around the area you intend to burn. Good job keeping one foot in the black, that saved you for sure. The way you did this overall, from what’s in the video appeared very risky. There’s no need to take unnecessary risk to yourself and especially your new fire fighters. If you’re understaffed, don’t take on the operation. Fuck that. You got lives in yours hands, do a better job. If I was working with you, I’d be livid with whoever put this operation together like this. I care about your safety. Be far more careful next time.

Sorry I disagree to a point, as ops command you had them push knowing all the above- ytc bot operating/. With wAter, support too far iff, not acknowledging that the fuel source was loose and tender. This whole thing came fown to making a rookie mistake. Well done ladies for being aware making the right decision to keep safe.

and one other thing -hopefully the burner if she ever gets a push on her again , she will try and go back down the line and not into the "green" on the other side

A couple of tactical observations -first a leaf blower is very handy to have even on the holding UTVs (engines) - second not sure I would have stopped the burner out right , just slowed her down , some --- 3rd would have probably jumped back and helped the 2nd UTV operator be a little more efficient in her suppression efforts even though it might have taken your focus off the big picture --- like you said some in experience was evident -- I always tell the burner to pause ever so often and not only look back to see how the behavior is (if its changing) but also see if the interior is keeping pace (or out pacing you) and also ahead to adjust to any possible problem areas such as a jack pot

We weakened some loblolly this late winter like that. Humidity dropped down to 13 by the afternoon when it wasn’t supposed to be below 27. Trees already had 20-30% Live crown ratio, now part of that appears possibly dead. Not how we planned it but it happens. 20 acres or less

I was just 14 months old when the terror attacks occurred and my Dad was a volunteer firefighter here in Vermont. On that day, his pager went off requesting his department to man an Engine and take it across Lake Champlain into New York for station coverage in NY. He was working and unable to do so but they did do as requested. In 2021, 20 years later, I attended a couple remembrance and memorial ceremonies with the fire department here in my hometown. At the time, I'd only been on the department for a little over a month. One of the guys by my side at the ceremonies is one of the very men that my Dad served with back in his Firefighting days and was at work with on the day of the attack. It was very interesting to hear the stories he had to tell about that day.

Thanks for sharing. How are they going to get management rolling again? I’m up for volunteering if they need help! Have to driver from KY but would be fun

Repeated fires, are you talking needing yearly burns to knock back those sweet gum? What was the return frequency on the site you showed very little hardwood stems? Thank you sir as always well done.

Thanks for sharing sir

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Always enjoy the videos sir thank you

No wedges for directional felling. Or not worth attempting while on fire. Figured drop it in the black then clean off the fire line again. Always a pain either way when it happens. Good safe effort Sir. Glad it all worked out Enjoy all your videos

Hopefully that sets back that hardwood trash looking a little raggedy. How long since last burn? Looks like that may have knocked some back. Didn’t see leaves on a lot of them, was that stand sprayed for hardwood control

Looked awesome down in middle ga our trees were starting candles in March. Didn’t realize there was that much difference across the range. You think it’s got hot enough to take the loblolly out of it or the hardwood What was your humidity

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Burned some young longleaf last week trying to take the loblolly out of the stand. 19 percent humidity. Hope we didn’t kill the longleaf also. Had full needle consumption on a corner of the field but then about 5% of the stand or less otherwise. Light candling, but to wet to cut a fire break before Hand.

Need a heck of a lot more fire for longleaf. I’m surprised they don’t want to go in there right away and harvest all none target trees. Thus encourage bald cypress and the said longleaf. Looks like a good fire or two would take out all the beech easily, I didn’t see any beech with a burned bowl. I know you said it didn’t burn well under some of the hardwood. Good luck. Maybe get quick follow up after something like this on a much drier day. Once everything around is burned you can use much more aggressive burning conditions to achieve fire across the rest of the stand. Of course using caution because what you said about the deep Duff layer. I assume those stands are like most and reach about 15 tons and acre fuel load before they reach that equal Librium of decay versus new fuel.

Thank you for the follow up video on the slop over. Enjoy seeing the results down the road. That head fire along the road with the road effect was rough. Live and learn Right. 100% agree with you on the root damage being the cause of the loss for the most part. I burned some old growth longleaf when it was really wet could hardly get the fire going. Then it smoldered for 2 days before we really paid it much attention. Since a rain storm came in for the following 24 hours or so after we tried to burn I mistakenly expected it to be out. I ringed at least a 1/4 of the stand then the beetles took them in a drought the following summer. Like you stand it was a stand that could have used thinning and we did a salvage cut. Just wish I could have marked live trees instead of trees I killed. None the less happy to have fire back in the stand actively now. 11 year past the original mistake.