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Leadership. Stewardship. Lessons Learned.
Go Direct is hosted by retired federal Fire Management Officer Timothy Craig. It is not affiliated with any government agency or non-governmental organization. Projects or contributions involving government agencies or NGOs will be noted in the posts. Opinions expressed are those of the host, unless otherwise noted.
Direct attack is a foundational principal of wildland fire. Going direct is often the most efficient and safest way to engage a fire. When appropriate, go direct.
Go Direct is hosted by retired federal Fire Management Officer Timothy Craig. It is not affiliated with any government agency or non-governmental organization. Projects or contributions involving government agencies or NGOs will be noted in the posts. Opinions expressed are those of the host, unless otherwise noted.
Direct attack is a foundational principal of wildland fire. Going direct is often the most efficient and safest way to engage a fire. When appropriate, go direct.
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Filling in the Gaps
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Gaps are created in the Loblolly Pine-dominated Big Woods Conservation Area by fire, windthrow or insect damage. Larger cutover areas are used for Longleaf Pine restoration, but Longleaf are also used in the smaller gaps.
Some Notes on Fireline Dozer (Tractor-Plow) Operations
มุมมอง 22Kปีที่แล้ว
Follow-up on a earlier video, this time highlighting tractor plow use on fire assignments. Virginia Department of Forestry and US Fish and Wildlife operations and equipment cited, with some current helmet cam video.
Burning for Endangered Species
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A burn on The Nature Conservancy's Piney Grove Preserve to maintain habitat for the endangered Red-cockaded Woodpecker. Firing operations around cavity trees is highlighted. Helmet cam video shot with GoPro Hero 7.
Women in Prescribed Fire
มุมมอง 671ปีที่แล้ว
A snapshot of the representation by women on our prescribed burn crews here in Southeast Virginia. Comments mixed in with some helmet cam video of a recent burn on The Nature Conservancy's Piney Grove Preserve.
Longleaf Pine Burning on Private Lands
มุมมอง 6Kปีที่แล้ว
Helping out Virginia Department of Forestry on a private lands burn on a Longleaf Pine site. Helmet cam video shot with GoPro Hero 7.
Three Days of Extreme Fire Behavior in the North Carolina Coastal Plain: 2011 Pains Bay Wildfire
มุมมอง 4.4K2 ปีที่แล้ว
A look back at the 2011 Pains Bay Fire in Eastern North Carolina. Springtime fires in pine-pocosin fuels can exhibit extreme fire behavior, and then comes the ground fire. This fire burned approximately 7,000 acres per day the first three days once escaping initial attack, then made several more runs before a large-scale burnout operation finally contained it.
Firefighter Retirement: The federal 6c system for wildland firefighters
มุมมอง 2722 ปีที่แล้ว
An overview of my experience hitting the mandatory retirement age as a wildland firefighter under the 6c retirement system for federal firefighters and law enforcement officers. Your mileage may vary, but like all good firefighters know, you must plan ahead and develop contingencies.
June 2022 Wildfire and Ground Fire in North Carolina: Looking Back and Looking Ahead
มุมมอง 7552 ปีที่แล้ว
A large wildfire is currently burning in Eastern North Carolina. This video gives some background on the recent history of fires here in the Coastal Plain of Virginia and North Carolina, and what to expect this summer if drought conditions persist.
Many Years, Many Fires: Fire behavior and fire effects at the Zuni Pine Barrens
มุมมอง 1.2K2 ปีที่แล้ว
A walk-through of a recently burned site, and a look back at past burns and their effects, particularly related to Longleaf Pine restoration in Virginia. Helmet cam video shot with GoPro Hero 7.
Tactical Decision-Making: Choices and Consequences on a Prescribed Burn
มุมมอง 9K2 ปีที่แล้ว
A look back at a 2020 prescribed burn where things went a little sideways. Too much focus on the original tasking can lead to problems. I have a senior moment and mention in voice-over that it was 2019, but it was actually 2020, and was the second burn (and video) of this unit. The third burn was the 2022 burn highlighted in the Parker's Branch WMA video. All video shot with GoPro Hero 7 helmet...
Burning With a UAV (Drone): Incorporating an Ignis Ignition System on Prescribed Fire Operations
มุมมอง 7932 ปีที่แล้ว
A breakdown of integrating a unmanned aerial vehicle, i.e. a drone, into ignition operations on a recent burn on Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources property. Sussex County, Virginia. April 2022. Helmet cam video shot with Go Pro Hero 7. UAV system supplied by Drone Amplified.
Tactics and Considerations: Burning with Minimum Staffing
มุมมอง 4912 ปีที่แล้ว
All burn plans should specify a minimum staffing level for the project, but what must you consider, and what are some of the potential issues, when burning at the minimum? Video shot with GoPro Hero 7 on TNC easement in Sussex County, Virginia, April 2022.
Burning Out of Prescription
มุมมอง 1.2K2 ปีที่แล้ว
Prescribed burn prescriptive elements are designed to produce desired effects, however sometimes going outside that prescription can also produce beneficial effects. Don't limit your prescription on either end unnecessarily. Video shot at TNC Piney Grove Preserve, May 2022.
Big Woods Big Burn Follow-up
มุมมอง 2362 ปีที่แล้ว
A follow-up look one month after the Big Woods Big Burn video. Video from the burn contrasted with post-burn fire effects on one section of the prescribed fire. Post-burn video shot April 21. Burn footage taken with GoPro Hero 7.
A Different Kind of Longleaf Pine Site: Lone Star Lakes Park
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A Different Kind of Longleaf Pine Site: Lone Star Lakes Park
Parkers Branch WMA Burn, Impressive fire behavior
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Parkers Branch WMA Burn, Impressive fire behavior
2500-acre Aerial Ignition Burn at Big Woods State Forest & WMA & TNC Piney Grove Preserve
มุมมอง 7313 ปีที่แล้ว
2500-acre Aerial Ignition Burn at Big Woods State Forest & WMA & TNC Piney Grove Preserve
Burning Around Red-Cockaded Woodpecker Clusters and Building Black
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Burning Around Red-Cockaded Woodpecker Clusters and Building Black
South Quay Natural Area Preserve Prescribed Burn
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South Quay Natural Area Preserve Prescribed Burn
RCW Maintenance Burn on TNC's Piney Grove Preserve
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RCW Maintenance Burn on TNC's Piney Grove Preserve
First Prescribed Fire Entry: Cause and Effect
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First Prescribed Fire Entry: Cause and Effect
Speaking of additional seed sources, are new Virginia sourced longleaf finally being planted in some of the gaps and openings created by harvesting or the death of the older planted loblolly pines, in places like the Zuni Pine Barrens? I'd love to see a video showing either the seedlings, or small trees if they are growing. I recall you doing a video on the subject last year, but no longleaf were shown. Double posted since I don't know if you saw this comment as a reply.
All the Virginia native LLP seeds still come from a single source, at the moment. The trees put in the ground during the initial plantings 15-16 years ago are now producing cones, but are probably not to the stage yet where they can be harvested. The bulk of the restoration on agency lands has been after the site has been cutover and/or drum-chopped. If you scroll through some of my other videos you will see many examples. Thanks.
10 acres was hardly even worth attempting. Unless the city has either the budget, or a volunteer forest management company who will volunteer to burn those 10 acres every 2 or 3 years, and in the growing season to kill the loblolly and sweet gum, it was just a short term feel good project for someone. Probably, there should be minimum acreages for these projects if they get other public funds, to discourage the waste of money on project like these. Virginia will be better served with fewer larger acreage stands and forests of longleaf than with these type of very poorly restored micro sites.
As a demonstration site on a public park, it is perfectly fine, and would have value in showing LLP restoration, and as a demo of prescribed fire, if they would follow through with it. At the time (~15 years ago) we were trying to get trees in the ground anywhere we could to promote the overall effort. These are, and were, trees grown from a very limited native Virginia seed source. Part of doing these kinds of planting, even small acreages, was so that additional seed sources of Virginia stock would become available. This has now come to fruition on other sites here in the Coastal Plain. Virginia Department of Forestry spearheaded this planting, and should be the ones to keep after it, but it has not been a priority, obviously.
@@godirectwildlandfire6077 Ah, well, more trees is at least something. Speaking of additional seed sources, are new Virginia sourced longleaf finally being planted in some of the gaps and openings created by harvesting or the death of the older planted loblolly pines, in places like the Zuni Pine Barrens? I'd love to see a video showing either the seedlings, or small trees if they are growing. I recall you doing a video on the subject last year, but no longleaf were shown.
Date of burn? Age of young pines?
Very well!
I work the the Georgia Forestry and your correct, you can’t see shit in a fire dozer
Any chance of a follow-up to this or other sites that are young planted longleaf experiencing a first or second burn?
A simple run with a disc attachment on a john deere would have kept that in place.
When i first saw firefighters do this (at age 10) i was very confused, because isn't firefighters there to fight fires? But then after reading about it i realized they were fighting fires. By removing fuel on the ground and burning off the top layer it'll be much harder for a fire to find purchase and grow into a wildfire, it is literally "fight fire with fire".
Wish I could be a dozer operator in Forestry
This is unfortunately how most forest fires start but they don't want you to know that. Keep the whole climate change thing going...
This is how most forest fires start.
nope its more like an idiot throwing out a cigarette butt
actually, this is how you control wildfires and stop future ones. does it have the risk? Sure, it does but it has proven time and time again that it works and does wonders for the forest.
No, most are from lightning, or more likely from accidental (like welding) or deliberate (arson) human sources. Controlled burns are vital, and usually don't even risk getting out of hand.
@@G-force_Motorsport ask the National Forest Service in New Mexico who ignited the biggest forest fire ever last year
@@tomlorenzen4062 I'll take your word on it, but there are thousands of reduction burns, they are a not a common ignition source.
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looks like its doing the same thing again with the Polk Road Fire right now. 16,000acres so far.
Any chance there are 2023 follow-up videos to these sites?
Did a couple post-burn videos last year (2022). Will probably get out this summer and do one or two as well.
Any chance there are some forthcoming videos of these locations? @@godirectwildlandfire6077
I am not sure why this was recommended to me, but what is the point? Lumber? This forest looks dead and unhealthy and so does the soil.
Ah, excellent.
Thanks for the prompt on the other video. Been meaning to do this.
All I see is Loblolly. Is TNC opening up the stand and planting any Virginia seed source Longleaf?
HAVING TOUR CAMERA ON YOUR HELMET SPOIKS AA OF YOUR VIDEOS.
By any chance do you use the burns to teach fire controls? I have had a little training through a vol fire dept. and it was to help keep fires from overtaking miles of crop (soybean, millet, cotton and corn) that will go up in flames faster than fat wood. Please consider offering this as a safety and learning opportunity. We were taught by a former HotShot/Smoke Jumper. The things you learn really put a new respect for the dangers of fires front and center
Don't know where you are geographically, but there is a co-op program in the Southeast called "Learn and Burn," which is primarily focused on private landowners. This is a link to it- sites.cnr.ncsu.edu/southeast-fire-update/
My hubby is a Ret. Battalion Captain Firefighter/Paramedic. He's told me about hundreds of fires they set. It's great for new growth of the Forrest and helps control wild fires.
Battalion captain?
@@brianmullally7955Sounds like someone looking for attention.
YOUR HUBBY ! ! ! WHEW.......HE"S CHEATING ON YOU LADY......
IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A CAMERA PERSON INSTEAD OF WATCHING THE BOUNCY HELMAT CAMERA.
From central VA. Love to see what you do!!!!
Bay fires in the southeast ain't no joke. Give me a mountain fire any day over one of these.
Great vid, iv been trying to find something like this!!
Open cab all the way
Drones particularly ones with thermal can be really helpful for all kinds of fire or rescue incidents, from searches to getting a better assessment on structure fires and all in between. I'm curious though, that has the ability to start burnouts? Is it more or less a modified drip torch or incendiaries or flares? Was watching and thinking about what they've done with drones in Ukraine and that a drone which could set backfires in areas with hard access could open a lot of options for wildland fires but it seems that's already happening...
The drone is just the drone. It's the platform. What's attached to it is an aerial ignition system, similar to what is used has been used in helicopters to do burns for years. It's smaller and lighter, since the UAV can't carry the payload that a helicopter can. Google "Ignis" or "Drone Amplified" and you'll go to the company that makes the device we use. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing!
Fire is such a great tool
Converging flame fronts from the flank and head? What were your conditions during the burn? Looked like you had some wind to move heat but the vortex where the two fronts merged negated the wind long enough to scorch.
Nice to know we’re not the only crew that’s had to do this!
Great burn, I could just tell from the footage!
Yea, it’s been commented already, a more reliable firebreak, wind shifts happen to all of us. Like I’ve said before, we just burned one part a little ahead of schedule-ha!
Put down some hand line or dozer line around the area you intend to burn. Good job keeping one foot in the black, that saved you for sure. The way you did this overall, from what’s in the video appeared very risky. There’s no need to take unnecessary risk to yourself and especially your new fire fighters. If you’re understaffed, don’t take on the operation. Fuck that. You got lives in yours hands, do a better job. If I was working with you, I’d be livid with whoever put this operation together like this. I care about your safety. Be far more careful next time.
Sorry I disagree to a point, as ops command you had them push knowing all the above- ytc bot operating/. With wAter, support too far iff, not acknowledging that the fuel source was loose and tender. This whole thing came fown to making a rookie mistake. Well done ladies for being aware making the right decision to keep safe.
and one other thing -hopefully the burner if she ever gets a push on her again , she will try and go back down the line and not into the "green" on the other side
Actually, I yelled at her to go into the "green", which was the treeline. A change in fuel type can be your friend. As you see in the video, the fire dropped immediately with the change from grass to understory. Unfortunately she panicked and kept going. Close call.
A couple of tactical observations -first a leaf blower is very handy to have even on the holding UTVs (engines) - second not sure I would have stopped the burner out right , just slowed her down , some --- 3rd would have probably jumped back and helped the 2nd UTV operator be a little more efficient in her suppression efforts even though it might have taken your focus off the big picture --- like you said some in experience was evident -- I always tell the burner to pause ever so often and not only look back to see how the behavior is (if its changing) but also see if the interior is keeping pace (or out pacing you) and also ahead to adjust to any possible problem areas such as a jack pot
first a leaf blower is very handy to have even on the holding UTVs (engines) - second not sure I would have stopped the burner out right , just slowed her down , some -
We weakened some loblolly this late winter like that. Humidity dropped down to 13 by the afternoon when it wasn’t supposed to be below 27. Trees already had 20-30% Live crown ratio, now part of that appears possibly dead. Not how we planned it but it happens. 20 acres or less
I was just 14 months old when the terror attacks occurred and my Dad was a volunteer firefighter here in Vermont. On that day, his pager went off requesting his department to man an Engine and take it across Lake Champlain into New York for station coverage in NY. He was working and unable to do so but they did do as requested. In 2021, 20 years later, I attended a couple remembrance and memorial ceremonies with the fire department here in my hometown. At the time, I'd only been on the department for a little over a month. One of the guys by my side at the ceremonies is one of the very men that my Dad served with back in his Firefighting days and was at work with on the day of the attack. It was very interesting to hear the stories he had to tell about that day.
Thanks for sharing. How are they going to get management rolling again? I’m up for volunteering if they need help! Have to driver from KY but would be fun
Thanks. It has been brought to the attention of City Parks and Rec and Dept of Forestry, so hopefully it will spur some action.
Repeated fires, are you talking needing yearly burns to knock back those sweet gum? What was the return frequency on the site you showed very little hardwood stems? Thank you sir as always well done.
Really depends on what's carrying the fire. The block you reference gets burned pretty much yearly. That's really only possible once you get the conversion to herbaceous groundcover. If you are relying on shrubs and needle cast, the fuel load typically doesn't support annual burning. We don't have wire grass this far north, so it get's tricky. Saving the fuel load up and going for a hot fire late in the growing season seems to work best for hardwood control.
@@godirectwildlandfire6077 If TNC is trying to get these sites back to an herbaceous cover, why don't they use herbicide to control the gum and some of the oak, and then burn and start seeding in herbaceous plants. Sounds like they were old fields to begin with, and these were loblolly plantation from 50+ years ago.
Thanks for sharing sir
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Always enjoy the videos sir thank you
No wedges for directional felling. Or not worth attempting while on fire. Figured drop it in the black then clean off the fire line again. Always a pain either way when it happens. Good safe effort Sir. Glad it all worked out Enjoy all your videos
Thanks. Had lots of help, so it wasn't worth the trouble. Besides, you start pounding wedges in to get it to go where it doesn't want to go, and that's when the top can come out of it.
Hopefully that sets back that hardwood trash looking a little raggedy. How long since last burn? Looks like that may have knocked some back. Didn’t see leaves on a lot of them, was that stand sprayed for hardwood control
We basically lost last year's burn season, and had some weather issues before that, so it had been probably 4 years. We will occasionally spray cut-overs to prep for planting, but otherwise no. Soil and moisture on some of these sites make hardwood control a challenge. Late spring hot fires are best to facilitate conversion to more herbaceous understory, which is the goal.
Looked awesome down in middle ga our trees were starting candles in March. Didn’t realize there was that much difference across the range. You think it’s got hot enough to take the loblolly out of it or the hardwood What was your humidity
What do wall charge an acre $25
State forestry agencies all kind of use a standard template for this sort of thing, so Virginia DOF charges something like that. This particular project was under a TNC easement, so partner agencies executed it for free, basically. The NRCS EQIP program will fund burning at $45-$55 an acre, so landowners can access those grant funds to pay contractors to do it. Part of this burn was actually done by a contractor under those conditions.
Burned some young longleaf last week trying to take the loblolly out of the stand. 19 percent humidity. Hope we didn’t kill the longleaf also. Had full needle consumption on a corner of the field but then about 5% of the stand or less otherwise. Light candling, but to wet to cut a fire break before Hand.
Need a heck of a lot more fire for longleaf. I’m surprised they don’t want to go in there right away and harvest all none target trees. Thus encourage bald cypress and the said longleaf. Looks like a good fire or two would take out all the beech easily, I didn’t see any beech with a burned bowl. I know you said it didn’t burn well under some of the hardwood. Good luck. Maybe get quick follow up after something like this on a much drier day. Once everything around is burned you can use much more aggressive burning conditions to achieve fire across the rest of the stand. Of course using caution because what you said about the deep Duff layer. I assume those stands are like most and reach about 15 tons and acre fuel load before they reach that equal Librium of decay versus new fuel.
Thank you for the follow up video on the slop over. Enjoy seeing the results down the road. That head fire along the road with the road effect was rough. Live and learn Right. 100% agree with you on the root damage being the cause of the loss for the most part. I burned some old growth longleaf when it was really wet could hardly get the fire going. Then it smoldered for 2 days before we really paid it much attention. Since a rain storm came in for the following 24 hours or so after we tried to burn I mistakenly expected it to be out. I ringed at least a 1/4 of the stand then the beetles took them in a drought the following summer. Like you stand it was a stand that could have used thinning and we did a salvage cut. Just wish I could have marked live trees instead of trees I killed. None the less happy to have fire back in the stand actively now. 11 year past the original mistake.