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People were resisting the culture from the era 81-mid-87 which was the true 1980s. The foundation for this period was set in late 87/88 and my God did this era last long. Sometimes I call it the 89's or "1990". The period between late 89 and mid-93. This is actually what the decade was supposed to be like. At least the entire first half of it. Unless you were in Seattle or LA not everyone was paying attention to grunge and gangster rap. Despite what you're saying about the show Miami Vice and MJ (who had a popular album come out at the time) these people were closer to the day Michael Jackson did Thriller than the end of the 90s which was like a different planet compared to this.

@@honestpage83182 I half agree with you, I agree that these people were closer to everyday people in 1992 then the stereotype of early 90s grunge. The were was a more a New Jack Swing style around 1989-1993 than grunge, though grunge was there. Do you remember the TV show Growing Pains? If you look at the later years of the show in the 90s and how the two sons Mike Seaver (Kirk Cameron) and the youngest son Ben Seaver (Jeremy Miller ) dressed in 1992, they dressed the way I remember 85% of kids dressed in 1992, not 80s, not 90s, it's own style. But then you look at how a young Leonardo DiCaprio (Luke) dressed in 1992 on that same show, he was all flannel and grunged out, more stereotype 90s. By 1995, 1996, now 70% of kids were dressing all flannel and grunge. But I disagree that Miami Vice was still a thing if that's what you are asserting. NO ONE I knew watched that show even in 1989. Like I said earlier, no kid I knew wanted to talk about the 80s or act 80s anymore from 1989 to 1994 or so, but clearly a late 80s influence was going on with the big hair, mullets, high top sneakers, etc. With some 90s stuff popping up here and there. And yes Michael Jackson did release a successful Dangerous album in 1991, he was still famous and popular, but he wasn't really "cool" anymore, the guy hadn't been cool since 1984. Does that make sense? There's a difference between being super famous/popular and cool. People like Cher and Elton John were also famous and popular in the early 90s, but he wasn't cool, and hadn't been cool since 1974 or something, and her not cool since probably 1969. I think almost every decade has had these pockets that don't clearly fit into either decade, where the "old decade" is no longer cool, but still sorta hanging around aesthetic wise. 1979-1982/'83 was that time for the 70s and 80s. 1999-2003/'04 was that time for the 90s and 2000s.

@@John-ct9zs I was only a child throughout this era when I look at pictures of myself dressed by my mother most of the time and I was in the new style with light wash jeans, loose relaxed t-shirts and surfer-cut hair more like Leonardo Dicaprio. I eventually came to hate my mother for this and ask her why she wouldn't let me have a mullet and flashier late 80s inspired clothing. When I came of age towards the end of the 90s and the 2000s I started to ignore what my generation and society was doing and became infatuatef with the culture from 81-87 and made it part of my image and taste which by this time made me seem eccentric and weird despite the nostalgia for the 80s which started around 1999. I was an anomoly and eventually I expanded my taste to like and agree with this period as well because as far as I could tell it was basicallly more in favor of keeping enough standards from the 80s going and popular rather than jumping the bandwagon on this new way to be and express yourself which had the so-called "coolness factor" on its side. Most people that I talk to now who reflect on the 70s, 80s, and 90s usually refer to this era as the only one that they hope that they never go back to. Most people like a lot of the music and media from it but not much more that unless it is something that was being newly introduced. I see it as the peak of humanity in modern times even though things kept being added to a blender. A lot of things were perfect and optimized even if people took it for grant⁹ed. Leonardo Dicaprio was still a child at this time so was Justin Timberlake who was dressed kind of like Dicaprio. So yeah for the most part the older you were in this period and what part of the world / country you were from basically determined how disconnected you were with all these things being forced into the mainstream which eventually became the new school. The foundation for the 90s was attempted to be set in 1989 and 90 as the decade started on the runway the grunge and gangster rap new school eventually hijjaked the plane and changed the course. "Smells like Teen Spirit" and tv eventually the movie Pulp Fiction killed the 80s zeitgeist. GNR was a mixture but wanted to distancr themselves from the 80s and be considered relevant and newschool. I get what you you're saying about overall popularity vs coolness.

@@honestpage83182 I remember how absolutely weirded out I was when the 80s retro stuff started in 1999, I mean it came in FAST. I was only 21 or 22 and felt old as hell when I first heard about an 80s retro party, I was like WTF. I legit though I was being punked when I first heard about it, we just got through with the end of the 80s. Nobody would have done an 80s retro party in 1995, but suddenly in the late 90s it was OK to do. Suddenly I understood what "older people" were talking about when they complained that 50s, 60s and 70s nostalgia was always wrong. With 80s retro, people over exaggerated everything like all decades. They acted like every girl dressed like Madonna, and every guy was dressing like Don Johnson, and people did the MJ moonwalk all day. I mean nope, people got up, ate food, went to school or work, lived their life just like people did 2,000 years ago. The 80s retro was a mind fuck for me at an early 20s young age. People justified it by saying the beginning of the 80s was now coming up on 20 years ago, especially if you justify 80s trends starting in 1979. Compare that with 90s retro, which took a while to simmer and people wanting it back, it's only been the past 5 years or so that people have been hit with 90s nostalgia. But it's different being hit with nostalgia with time you grew up in when you are 35 or 40,.....I was a college kid barely able to drink and going to retro party of the decade I spent most of my growing up in!

@@John-ct9zs You're 100% correct with everything. The exagerrated 80's nostalgia started with The Wedding Singer which was absolutely hilarious and filmed mostly in late 1997 and released in early 1998. My perception of the 80s nostalgia was that it was almost always based on 79-87 and exagerrated and missing things from the actual time. I think that the 2002 video game GTA Vice City captured the overall vibe and atmosphere of 1986 the most accurately even though it was graphics animation. The developers at Rockstar at the time were smart enough to get most of the essence of the time period they were portraying accurately. The soundtrack to the game was iconic although I wish there could have been more songs and radio chatter. Besides this almost every other "throwback" to the 80's during the 2000's decade was either watered down or innacurate and ridiculous. Remember the movie sequel Dumb and Dumberer? That 80's Show? They would over emphasize punk and new wave and avoid the metal scene. And that like you said was more like the true beginning of the 80s in 1979. Remember how fat people got by 2006 and thry dressed so lazy and sloppy. And don't even get me started with the 90's nostslgia that's still going on right now mixed with 2000s nostalgia which is mostly related to gen z. They wanted the 2010s to be an alternate 90's with skintight pants and unbecoming undercut hairstyles. Now they are promoting the puffy loose shit and they brought back the mullet a little mostly worn by professional athletes. The problem with the 90s nostalgia is that it's always based on materialism like the mid-80s. The 89's and the 90's didn't put so much importance on clothing as gen z is insinuating. Those times were very mental and about thinking not about fashion. And for the 2000's nostalgia they are promoting urban and avoiding the suburban look which was emo scene. Only the bands they were showing on VH1 at the time were donning eyeliner but they will act as if every guy from a construction worker to the cashier at Walmart was wearing eyeliner in 2008 once this comes around.

Circa 1992 everyone was doing their own thing despite grunge and gangster rap hypnotizing America's youth in Seattle and LA. Most of the country paid it no mind at first. By 1996/97 everyone was assimilated and then there was another shift in 1998 which modernized everything. It was the movie Pulp Fiction which killed the late 80s zeitgeist seen here.

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38 not 48.

@@yungnachty4474 If they graduated in 1992 at 18 and it's been 30 years.

@@yungnachty4474 18 + 30 = 48

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