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Amen! Jesus used the sword against the devil!

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We need a real debate on this instead of a keeping these conversations in an eco chamber. I noticed many strawman arguments that would be pushed back on.

Sounds like bullshit

As we grow deeper in focus on Christ, we worry less about being good enough because our focus is about hearing what He's done for us. It releases in us a confidence that we can then respond with great love.

Your life must match your words. Let your light so shine to lead men to Christ.

I think it was more than woe is me

First of all if you are involved in a western church you are not walking g in obedience. None of the churches operate the way the Lord declared and we are for seen to have anything to do with these phonies

The Holy Spirit in Hebrew is the Ruach Ha Kodesh ( The Breath Of Separation ) ❤

So when the culture is committing serious evils should the church just focus on their holy living? Or are we called to go out and make disciples and teach them to observe everything we have been commanded.

That being unconditional love.

Yes, I agree. God is my salvation…

Thank you, Pastor and Mike. I found your talk very interesting. I'm finding prayer so needed in my life. I do pray a lot during my days. I pray as I enter the mission each field each day, sometimes at home or as I go out on errands. I witnes through special cards I give out and general conversations. I am always looking forward to appointments with others. Thanks again I enjoy your times together. Walt Sommers, prayers, and blessings

100 percent Bible Torah leads back to Jesus

I pray 🙏 for the fruit 🍇 🍌 🍉 of the spirit to harvest in me through Christ Jesus so I may be more like Him amen 🙏

My big prayer is to be loved. Here on earth. Tired of being told God should be enough. He didn't make man to be alone. Been begging for my Adam 48yrs. I will keep asking until the deep desire to be wife subsides. God is my provider, but my big prayer is not stupid cash.

I just pray my fruit doesnt ripen & die on the vine. I pray im able to pull words eloquently together, when i need to share his word&love. If my communication skills werent so combative and ready to convert, that i dont harden hearts and ears, So that when i am able or the next Christian is able they are still open/willing to receive the gift of eternity.

Everything in this land will perish.❤✝️

Whenever I've read this chapter, I've never understood the linkage people give it to the devil. It seems clear to me that it's about Babylon

If we follow those who subscribe to the doctrine of women wearing veils, then it can be argued that the most often cited verse is 1st Corinth. 11:5, which states: “But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.” According to many of those who believe women ought to wear veils this verse supposedly implies that a woman’s uncovered head is a woman who does not wear a veil. Such a woman is either dishonoring God, their own physical head or her husband for failing to wear it which implies that they are in disobedience. Some have gone so far as to say it is a sin. Another assumption is that the woman being referred to already has long hair and since they conclude that the covering is a veil then it must be referring to an “additional” covering otherwise it would clash with verse 15 stating that God gave women long hair for a covering. Another conclusion is that women ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying and for men to be uncovered, which would make it seem as though it were something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. You’ve probably noticed by now it takes several assumptions to reach the conclusion that women ought to wear a foreign object on their heads, despite the lack of evidence. * Does the Bible really give a clear command that women should wear a veil? The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT use the word “veil” or “cloth” or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. Some will use the phrase “head covering” to claim that the passage refers to it when this phrase is not found in the verses within 1st Corinthians 11:1-16. One can find them separately but not together to mean a synthetic covering. Therefore, it would be disingenuous to say that it does. The passage includes the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures. Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic? If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument. The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples. * Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions… Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. If they were meant to be conditions, then why would Paul say in verse 7… “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.” If the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why assume Paul was saying that there were only TWO conditions in verse 4? Wouldn’t 7 override any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? But let’s continue. Verses 8 and 9 give us another understanding that Paul must have been referring to praying and prophesying as examples because he adds the order of creation into the mix. “For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man CREATED for the woman; but the woman for the man.” If Paul states that the creation order has something to do with the reason as to why women ought to cover (in long hair) and men to be uncovered (aka have short hair) then we can conclude that this doctrine must be bound in NATURE. That is to say that it must have taken place since the creation of Adam and Eve and BEFORE the manufacturing of veils or hats, and BEFORE the creation of churches, which is another reason why hair easily fits the mold. This is confirmed when reading verses 13 and 14 when Paul asks you to make an observational judgment that if it is comely (aka pleasant looking/attractive) for a woman to pray uncovered (in short hair) and that even NATURE teaches us that a man with long hair is shameful. The answer of which should obviously be no. Why would Paul ask you to think that something as unnatural as a woman without a hat would look unattractive and then say something as natural as long hair would look off on a man? Paul was saying that not being covered in long hair while praying looks especially uncomely and in the same breath he continues and says men with long hair also looks naturally wrong. * So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? ….. If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. Now some have tried to argue that the covering is somehow Jesus or men (some erroneously add husband here as well). The reason is that they are intermingling the word head in verse 3 that refers to authority with the other word “head” that is being used to refer to the literal head of the human body. One can easily dismiss their interpretation because it wouldn’t make sense if we were to replace the word covering, covered or uncovered with Jesus, man or husband and that the context includes the idea of hair and the shaving and cutting thereof. So, do the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” refer to long and/or short hair or some kind of foreign head covering? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words. “But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair. Therefore there are no two coverings just one which Paul refers to as being covered which he means to be covered in long hair.

Yahweh is a fictitious demon. Next!

"Laws must rest on the Necessary Foundation of Morality."...Aristotle..."Woe to those who make Unjust Decrees/Laws." God...If Christians and Churches are NOT Seeking to Lead in Government and Form the Moral Tenor of Our Laws then the Vacuum that Exists will be filled by people who have an Anti Christian World View...And we will be Ruled by Tyrants...Both of these men are like the Ten Spies who led the Israelites into SIN...

Amén!

How does one submit a question for discussion. I have been hearing that Dr. MacArthur teaches a "Lordship Salvation" gospel. I was wondering if this can be addressed? What is Lordship Salvation...

What do you mean when you say a Holy God? What does that look like?

Like it or not, Donald Trump is the Christian representative to the world. He says revenge is justified and none of his supporters protest and so the world sees that as agreement. Trump uses slander, innuendo, bullying, name calling and lies, of course, to further his cause and the MAGA Christians applaud. There is no Republican policy, it is Trump policy.

Having grown up in a carholic church and then moving onto a protestant one and then shuffling back and forth through different christian churches of different schisms. I learned that there are good and bad churches. Good and bad pastors and attendees. It is important to go to church in my opinion mainly for the social aspect. However. Be careful you do not fall into the trap of thinking only inside the religion and let the chirch dictate your life based kn their dogmas. The bible is the same but the interpretation is not. And yhe church sometimes works agianst your interests. So think critically and remember the main message Jesus taught us: love tht neighbor. No matter what.

I am very grateful for this podcast and the topics discussed here. The world is attacking from every side, and Christian Nationalism is one way that the world has tainted the church. This is an important topic, but the voices in favor of a muscular American Christianity drown out other viewpoints. We need resources like this, not to tell us what to think, but to equip us to be able to think about such topics biblically, humbly submitting to the illumination of the Spirit. Thank you, brothers, for your willingness to tackle the difficult topics that are pulling so many away.

Thank you men for sharing!

Do you fellas realize the current claim is Yahweh and his sidekick son exist in the present? Oh, there are countless videos of christian and their stories of what god has said to them. Pastors and preachers speak about what a holy ghost or a lord character said to them. They are speaking in the present. Why are you focused on the bible times? That gives me the impression you think of these characters as only book characters.

The Quran wasn't WRITTEN it's an oral tradition. The people at the time had it memorized by heart and the written version came later. It wasn't by one person it was by dozens of prophets and the Quran has stayed EXACTLY the same throughout that time. The bible has had so many releases and versions that the original meaning is almost completely lost because of political reasons. Kings removed the word Tyrant from the bible just so people wouldn't get ideas. Never seen someone so confidently wrong.

But you have NOTHING that supports the supernatural claims. The Bible is just the claim, it’s not the evidence.

That is, honestly, my big problem with organized religion. I want to believe it’s all right but any math at all shows that something was missed. It could be the color of someone’s hair or the most important thing ever written. My faith in man is always weak and will remain so because our first instinct is control whether or not is meant for a good purpose. I don’t understand how we can base our entire life’s worth on a possible misrepresentation. I wish I could. I just can’t 😢

It’s a politically coined term, a bogeyman. Engaging in it is playing onto their game. Nothing wrong with staunch Christianity. Why is it only the Christian’s that needs to change their thinking and world views in every issues concerning our Christian civilisation?

As a teacher if I had a substitute on a test day and all my students got really similar answers/work. I would automatically assume it was because of my consistent teaching skills and all my students studied together. DEFINITELY NOT ACADEMIC DISHONESTY.

One witness? The Book of Mormon had over a dozen witnesses 😭 all of whom never relinquished their testimony of seeing and handling the book or being touched by angels. Many of them were known to be truthful people who never lie aswell. How are you so incorrect 😭

Never heard someone speak so confidently incorrect before.

I would have liked Bible references to be made known or come up on screen.

Hi. I just stumbled onto your channel and I love your content, and the spirit in which it is delivered! Thank you, and may the Lord continue to bless your ministry.

Take note, real Christianity is not forcing others to bend the knee.

Pastors Mike and Nathan, Thank you for this episode! As a recent liberty law graduate I have enjoyed the HBC ministry for the past 3 years. This episode in particular for me and my collueges who are going into the legal world. Pastor Nathan i hope you come speak at liberty law's convocation again in the future. Also a book that shows the huge effects that christianity has had on legal development you may be interested in are Law and revolution parts 1 & 2 by Harold Berman.

I disagree that someone has already been Justified by faith before baptism because they have not gone thru the dead, Burial and the resurrection of Jesus Christ and haven't died into a spiritly death with Christ and because it come reality by faith in baptism in the working of God. Just how those romans died in Romans 6:4

If you haven't been baptized you haven't been baptized into Christ Gal 3:26 27..nor are you saved Mark 16:16 1peter 3:21

I’m confused are you saying that people who are not Christian’s should not go to church?

Thank you. Great discussion.

You are to spread your experiences with the spirit not to find set up an authority. Share your experiences. Read the Bible for yourself. God shows you he is working in your life... HIS Spirit is is our teacher. DIscussing your position in the higharchy does not show others anything about God's Spirit in your life.

God bless.

Westernized Christianity uses materialism to attract people to the immaterial and wonder why so many youth leave the church. "Whoever remembers the most verses gets this toy." The kids no longer focus on the verse but the toy.

Jesus didn't brag about being the son of God