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Everyone else sucks, though: they are at least a year away from even trying to start winning, and it's only because the prior GM was the dumbest and most incompetent clown in the history of that profession.

So Langdon is tanking, yes. Because that's the net effect of a couple of shooting guards (Ivey and Sasser) being "thrown into the fire" whilst playing out of position. Yes, yes, all yes. Tanking his face off, this new GM.

I personally am watching basketball and seeing the only good defender on the roster other than Ausar. You are wrong.

He is better than every single one of his teammates except Cade.

@@scottwickett1273 your delusional

Killian wasn’t a + athlete, struggled as a finisher, and struggled as a shooter. Killian wasn’t efficient anywhere, that was his problem. Ausar is a 1%~ile athlete, with playmaking, with elite defense, and is a ++++finisher. Hes efficient at the rim, increase those looks and he’s fine. Being ineffective from everywhere is a death sentence, not being a bad 3pt shooter.

@LockedOnPistons but he isn't a bad. He's a horrific. Like neither problem is being fixed on one summer. But I think ausar and duren give you enough off ball passing or someone to through already than worrying about ausar being to just get his own. Cade is gonna have the ball 80% of the time anyway. Having 2 guys you can completely ignore outside of 10 feet is such a hindrance

@@nickeddy1823 Then don't play Duren! He sucks!

That's how you know the new GM is deliberately tanking!

Ouch.

With the Cade, Ivey, Ausar, Harris, Duren lineup you have to hope that Ivey’s shooting has ticked up and that they run a lot of off ball action to get Ivey and Ausar free going to the hole and set up mismatches on Harris. Plus hoping that Duren’s defense has improved. All possible, but we just have to wait and see how JB wants to play it.

Somebody hates Marcus Sasser.. And about to lie and say they watched Paul reed

@@WeezyD313 with our current roster who would you play Sasser over? Ivey? Beasley? Hardaway? Run him as the second point guard? That didn’t look too great in summer league. What’s you lineups that Sasser sees the floor? Go 14 deep? I like Sasser, but don’t really see a rotation spot for him barring injuries.

@@cordelldemattei5446 just Paul reed doesn’t play unless we need him let stew play the 5 off the bench. He was a better defender than duren last year

@@WeezyD313 Sasser sucks, and the Sixers were on TV all the time last year.

Where they put Ausar on defense is going to be interesting because he’s probably their best option at every position but the 5

@@LockedOnPistons yes, but I’d rather he be at the 3 or 4 to maximize his rebounding as well.

​@@cordelldemattei5446I agree. I also think that's the ideology for this upcoming season. Last year Ausar was the focal point of attack defender with Killian & Ivey being 2nd via fluctuated roles. Ausar & Killian gets benched and Ivey had to take on that objective. JB talked about Cade taking the initiative to become the point of attack defender this year via his intangibles which is what I wanted all last season. It's only right.

He's not big enough to be a 4, that's just wasting him.

Did you not watch him in ote he averaged more assist than Amen

His natural position has always been 2 guard his defensive makes him versatile to guard 1-4 and small 5’s

Bobi over Ron ?

Sassar and Ron missing

@@Joe-xx9my Sasser should not be in the rotation, and Ron just turned 19. (Also Stew should start over Duren because he's infinitely better, and Fontecchio should start as well.)

Don’t forget he was injured for almost all of his second season and spent most of the following off season recovering before his third season. Now he gets a full off season to just train. I don’t see any reason to expect him to start slow

No, that's the lineup that would give up 200 PPG and go 0-82.

I question how much Ron plays his rookie season.

Expecting leaps from all four young players is setting yourself up for disappointment. But I guess you are already there if you are expecting to compete for the play in.

@@cordelldemattei5446 Toronto,Chic and Char are all beatable......look at the rosters!!! That's your competition for #10.....

@@AndrewPolanderbeatable by some, but we haven’t yet proved that is us.

If you think Ivey is still going to be here in 2-3 years if we are running him from the bench you are crazy. We won’t give him a good extension coming off the bench. He can get paid to come off the bench with a real NBA team.

@cordelldemattei5446 if he wants to leave and chase a bigger bag, more power to him. Cade is the priority, and if he's not making cades job easier he can't start. He gotta a lot more on the floor than run fast.

@@jonesmarcquis how will you know if he’s making Cade’s job easier if you run him off the bench as Cade’s backup? Isn’t it Cade’s job as a superstar to help elevate those around him? Ivey was so misused last year and Cade injured the year before it is impossible to even know how they work together.

Not really. He averaged 15 pts. He needs to play some defense and everything else will fall in place.

@@yahisthoth9182 agree on the defense, but 15pts with no plays run for you and only being played to your weaknesses is pretty darn good. He has the tools to defend and now actually has a coach-let’s see what he can do.

What is worrisome is that teams only had to play a quarter or less of real basketball to beat us. We feel the Pistons have improved the roster a bit, but what does that mean, teams will have to play half a game to beat us and we still have 14 wins? I’m hoping it’s better than that, but there’s reason for concern.

Are you stupid? They all professionals taking a shot like is complete disrespect

@@Djturnt14 wins and huge games against us by backups, yes, it’s disrespect, but we earned it.

No issues, there’s no rebuttal to anything players say or do-Pistons have been awful

Stew is a better three point shooter than Reed. Both players are similar on defense and dribbling. Did you watch the Pistons and Sixers?

@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Better by how much? One percent. No, Stewart has no ability to dribble. Stewart also has no ability to score, if he posts up outside the paint. Whereas Reed is quite good at it. Stewart has zero ability to get to the hoop from helpside, to bother or block shots. Reed is great at this, being much quicker and much more athletic. None of this is from reading stats - I watch the whole NBA, all games of seven teams, a minimum of 30 for any one team.

Where do you get Reed can shoot 3s. His percentage is meaningless because he put up fewer than 1 a game last season . No one is extending the D to guard Reed.

No defense in that lineup athleticism matters terrible lineup

@@Djturnt Reed is ultra athletic. Ivey is athletic. Duren is athletic. This starting unit is needed, because its the best defensive unit we can put out there, that also can score well. Don't worry that Reed was used at a low rate by Philly -whenever he was called on to score, he did it well. High percentage on 3's, midrangers, scoring drives, post up attempts.

It depends upon what system JB is running. Ivey as a 3&D wing who doesn't play on ball when Cade is playing is a bad use of his skills. In that situation a shooter like Beasley or THJ makes sense In a 2 PG system Ivey is the only option. Ausar starting at SG is a bad fit if Duren starts at center. But Stew or maybe Reed as the starting center would allow Ausar to attack the rim both on and off ball.

@@pheralanpathfinder4897you could use the same offensive assessment with Ivey as you do with Ausar, but Ivey brings more shooting than Ausar (and obviously less D).

The concern I have with Omaris lineup is defensively I think they’d be bottom of the league again

@@LockedOnPistons I can see how optically that could be true, but the numbers don’t really suggest it. For 4 man lineups with 100 minutes played last season, a line up of Cade-JI-Tech and Duren was ranked 8th at 107.3 def rating and had a positive net rating of 1.7. In fact tied for first was a lineup of Cade-JI-Tech and Stewart at 104.3 def rating with a relatively large net rating of 9.9. Also weirdly enough, out of the top 10 4 man lineups def ratings with 100 min, JI was in the lineup 5 times (as much as Ausar). This would imply that JI is not as bad defensively as we might think or at bare minimum can be included in a decent defensive scheme/lineup.

@@cordelldemattei5446 I expect Ivey to shoot close to 36% from three. Ausar might shoot 28%. 36% isn't elite, but on the high volume Ivey shot last season it is effective. Ausar is an elite defender, which is why I want him to start but Cade and Duren are tight. Plus JD trade value will plummet if Duren isn't starting. JB is being put in a can't win situation regarding the rotation. Luckily 14 wins is an incredibly low bar.

Fans and media complained about Monty going ten deep all season. Should they flip flop and say JB should run a ten deep rotation? Sankofa had no trouble saying that Ivey should start. I'm not sure why an article that serves as a foil for the guest to dispute is a problem.

@@pheralanpathfinder4897 I, for one, had no problem with the number of players Monty used, it was the pattern he used them in. There is no reason to sub all the starters at once and keep that all bench lineup on the floor as long as he did. Staggering substitutions is what every half decent coach does. Except against the Pistons, because the opponents second string was competitive against us last season-#ThanksMonty

Yall Ivey fans gotta get over yourself. Keith Langlois has been the Pistons beat writer for as long as I can remember, ain’t no one cherry pick anything lol Go read the article scottscott-t3p

It was more of Monty Did ALL Bench Line-ups. I don’t like KU very much. He praised Killian Hayes then Hates Ivey because he isn’t a pure shooter. Ivey is a Young dynamic talent who needs a Coach to help refine his game by placing him in a consistent role.

@@yahisthoth9182 I think highly of Ivey, but his bad defense is a problem that might not be fixable. Everyone is making informed guesses regarding the development path of various players.

Nets will be last. Wizards verse Pistons should be good competition for bottom 4 in the East.

@@pheralanpathfinder4897 When the Nets or Wizards win a game this year, other than when they play each other, it will be breaking news....MAJOR TANK MODE for both!

@@pheralanpathfinder4897Pistons will be better than the Wiz: we have a coach now.

@@cordelldemattei5446wizards was better last year and they were trying to tank.

@@57otis60 Wiz we’re not better than the Pistons last year. They were the one team the pistons were better than last year (if we had a coach) and one of the few we will be better than this year.

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Yes - Cade is our best player but he still has to get a lot better. He needs to be lighter on his feet and be stronger at the same time. His conditioning needs to be way better than last year. I also want to see him develop chemistry with someone other than duren. He's gotta figure out how to make everyone better. A more variety offensive arsenal would help too - off ball stuff, play in the post, etc It's going to take time but I think he can get there

As a Magic fan that's the biggest question I have with Cade. He hasn't been a culturer changer!

Glad Im not the only one to notice how slow Cade is on offense.

It's hard to guess if it's the team tanking or Cade not being a vocal leader. ​@@ginajyneen8868

@@pheralanpathfinder4897have you seen him be a vocal leader on the court or bench? You can still do that while tanking.