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When it comes to pushing through thick grouse and woodcock cover not sure there is a good solution...for now I am just using the head band style. If you find a solution that you enjoy please let me know. I would rather just film with my traditional camera than shoot but I often hunt when my buddies are working so it's a cluster trying to film, handle, and shoot.....

@@versatilegundog Thanks! I’m going on Sunday. I tested my chest mount in the yard and it’s looking good. However, when I’ll shoulder my gun, not sure the result will be the same as head/cap mount. I’ll let you know. Cheers from Quebec!

Cheers to you and good luck!

If you are asking about where I hunt woodcock in the U.S. then my answer would be State of Michigan

I don’t find that shorter barrels help much with shooting success yet I won’t disagree with what helps you be successful.

@@versatilegundog I’ve hunted ruffed grouse in Ohio and Minnesota back when it was 30/3 for duck hunting in the Mississippi Flyway, as I knew this would be my best opportunity to enjoy other aspects of bird hunting when my state was under severe restrictions for waterfowl regs…..and the other hunters I met had the same concept- short barrels for thick cover. So, it wasn’t just WHAT WAS BEST for myself it was what others were doing that got me to switch. You gotta ALOT to learn, Hoss…..and I see now your learning curve is a bit stalled at the moment. Good luck.👍

Appreciate you taking time to add your very interesting insights and constructive critiques. Sounds like you have had a great deal of hunting in Ohio. Good luck hunting to you as well.

That was a very polite and class act reply.

Thank you! Good luck hunting!

The breeder is Kathleen Gannon of vom Kompass in Howell Michigan. She has 1 male and 1 female available.

These will be amazing dogs for sure.

When I am hunting grouse and woodcock especially in early season the cover is extremely dense providing little to no visibility to see the dog. The beeper allows me to keep track of the dogs position and when the dog is on point. Most dogs need to be socialized to the beeper so they disregard the noise in the field. So yes I nuetralize the sound of the beeper so it is just background noise and doesn't become a negative issue. 😊

You will be very pleased with it!

You have no need to apologize....and yes I agree that the half hitch works too. The clicks I make with my mouth are used to facilitate movement not for recall. Thank you for taking time to watch and comment.

@@versatilegundog I appreciate you taking the time to respond…….I’m not totally sold on the click thing when you’re in the file to recall. Always enjoy watching different techniques…..thanks

Glad it was helpful for you! Thanks for taking the time to watch!

Thank you for your kind words! Glad it was worth your time to watch!

Thanks for taking the time to watch and share your thoughts!!

Thank you for taking the time to check this video out! Glad to hear you found it helpful. Really appreciate your time!!

I can see why you would do that and agree that at this stage of training its important not to mess with the spirit of the dog. Allowing a dog to play to its strengths yet operate his talents inside a training construct seems to provide me with the most success.

Congratulations! That's exciting! Where are you getting your pup from?

Glad you enjoyed it

Now that's funny!

Thank you

Thanks! Hope it's a good New Year for you too!

That's a very good question. Unfortunately, my answer would start with "that depends". Puppies need a little shaping and socialization before you would want to begin this level of structure. Typically when they are able to pull around a check chord confidently then they may be ready. That said if you arent sure then a visit with a trusted professional may give some insight to your pups readiness for training.

The holidays and hunting season have slowed the videos down but will be picking up in the New Year. Thank you for watching and hope to bring more content that will help.