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very nice

Zero srs, its an electric bike

@@allardwp ahhhhhh. Very nicee.

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@kota5510, Tenchote is chatting rubbish. More flap = more drag + lower stall speed = shorter landing. Albeit a little more tricky to pull off. Regarding “changing flap before pulling up” is a good way to end things. VNE changes with flap, if you move it too far the wings will snap (has happened before). Best leave them until you free up spare capacity. The glider will still fly in flap 1, but not if you go past VNE cos you have changed to flap 2 and reduced your VNE by 30knts.

This! When I'm thermaling I keep my hand on the flap handle in case of a spin, to unload the flaps to position 0°/3 for the pull out.

@@TheSoaringChannel Yep, I do keep my hand on the flap handle when thermaling until at least 2,000 AGL. That said, it's been 5,000 AGL when I've been chucked out of thermals. The gusts are stronger up there. Lesson: Put on your oxygen mask or cannula on the ground so you don't have to fiddle with it in a rambunctious thermal.

thanks, you are completely right. I should have adjusted the flaps first, before handling the landing gear.

for the landing flap setting you are wrong. it depends on what model asw 20 you have. if you have the A like mine with the “oh Jezus” 55 degree flaps approach is very steep and your flare is very short.. another remark is dont do flybys opposite of landing directions accross the field.

@@zendesigner I guess "wrong" is relative. I flew several hundred hours on the ASW20F (which as far as I can tell is identical to the original) including lots of cross-country and competitions. I was able to do very short landings on flap 4 (the "thermal one") and never equally short on flap 6 (the landing one). The very steep approach definitely made for a longer flare, as I noticed not only on my own flying but other pilots, too. I don't think I ever saw someone achieve a very short landing on flap 6, compared to flap 4: higher speed, steeper approach, longer flare.

@@tinchote i think the asw20 f is the same as the asw20 b or c. they removed the dangerous flap setting in those. so we are talking about different settings. i have -2, -1, 0, thermal +8 degree, landing 1 + 33 degrees, landing 2 +55 degrees. yourspeed argument cant hold true, cause your landing speed is related to windgradient and not angle of decent of the plane. in the “oh jezus” +55 degree setting your asw20 A has an angle of decent of almost 50-60 degrees and you still fly 90-100 km/h decending. but when you flare your speed deletes so fast it’s actually dangerous if you wrongly estimate your flare. its like flying with a brake parachute and should only be done in cases where you only can do that steep landing. as you also almost need to stall to get the lever in that position and they had some accidents with it they removed that setting in the next versions

@@tinchote the asw20f was simply a asw20 made in lease by the french company pegase. its the same besides the dashboard design. that cooperation ended when pegase stole the body mold of schleicher and manyfactured a non-flap wing for it to call their new aeroplane pegase. both hulls are exactly the same

the biggest difference is that with positive flaps the spin starts a bit more unexpectedly, and with negative flaps the plane went a bit more on its back during the spin, but indeed they were all quite normal (although I was too late with setting the flaps to negative during the exits)

You will love it! I bought mine in 2008, and enjoy flying it more than any other aircraft; beautifully coordinated controls, comfortable and a decent performance. Just enough stability for a reasonably experienced pilot, and no more. As I almost always fly with the long tips I haven't spun it deliberately - it is non-aerobatic with the long tips - but I did once experience a wing-drop stall (we used to call it an "incipient spin") on the approach. You will understand from the fact that I am writing this it recovered promptly!

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