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Venture Kills
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 29 พ.ค. 2019
Chris Moody is a Partner at the venture capital firm, Foundry Group. On this channel, he discusses startups, leadership, and other goofy stuff. The ideas expressed here are his own and might be considered stupid.
How Much Are My Employee Stock Options Worth - Part 2
In Part 1 we talked about the basics of employee option grants including the stuff that can go wrong to cause your options to have little or no value. Link to Part 1 th-cam.com/video/WC-jQjxRgnw/w-d-xo.html
In this episode, we show how to estimate what your options could be worth in the future if things go well.
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In this episode, we show how to estimate what your options could be worth in the future if things go well.
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How Much Are My Employee Stock Options Worth?!?
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Season 2 begins with a deep dive on how employee options work. This is part one in a series on understanding just what your option grant(s) might be worth. chrismoodycom about.me/cmoody 0:00 How Much Are Your Options Worth 2:06 Three Things to Know 3:01 Vesting Schedule 10:48 Exercising Your Options 19:28 Conclusion
Leadership (Feat. Gov. Hickenlooper)
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A discussion about leadership with Governor John Hickenlooper. John went from being a geologist to a business owner to Mayor of Denver to 2x Governor of Colorado. He is currently running for US Senate. We talk about a few lessons he learned along the way.
Leadership (Feat. Jeremy Bloom)
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Jeremy Bloom is certainly known for his accomplishments in football and skiing but I know him as a world class CEO. We chat briefly about Jeremy's leadership journey and lessons learned along the way. Susan Cain's "Quiet" book: www.amazon.com/Quiet-Power-Introverts-World-Talking/dp/0307352153 Jeremy's Company: www.integrate.com/
Startup Advice: Transparency Sucks!
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One of the hottest trends in startup world is to adopt a value of transparency. It turns out this is a bad idea.
Startup Advice: Becoming A Better Leader
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7 simple words business leaders can use daily to maximize the return on what is often their largest investment. A blog post I wrote related to this topic: feld.com/archives/2013/02/trust-can-scale.html Twitter: chrismoodycom
Startup Culture: My #1 Tip for Building A Great Company.
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Your small startup might feel special now, but will it still feel awesome as you get bigger and add more people? I'll discuss the #1 tool for ensuring your company gets better as it gets bigger. An old blog post I wrote on this topic: chrismoody.com/startup-culture/ Follow me on twitter: chrismoodycom
Never Take Money from a VC - Part 3
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The third episode in our three-part series on why you should never take money from a venture capitalist. In this episode, we talk about the value equation as it relates to taking money from a VC, and Moody talks to himself so things get weird. If you missed the first two parts in this series you can watch them here: Part I - th-cam.com/video/CgbbBt6oJXE/w-d-xo.html Part 2 - th-cam.com/video/scc...
Never Take Money From a VC - Part 2
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Part two of a three-part series on why you should never take money from a venture capitalist as told by a VC. If you missed Part 1 in the series, you should watch it first: th-cam.com/video/CgbbBt6oJXE/w-d-xo.html Follow me on Twitter: chrismoodycom
Never Take Money From a VC - Part I
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The first episode in a three-part series on why you should never take money from a venture capitalist. To keep it interesting, all content for this video was created, recorded, and edited by a VC.
The Preview Episode
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A new vlog by Chris Moody from Foundry Group covering venture capital and the endless quest to build a successful startup.
In episode 1 you hinted at more tax friendly ways to exercise your options. I was hoping to see this covered but assume you are referring to exercising when valuation is lower or before a fundraising round so that the capital gains tax impact is less? Additionally, if I do exercise my options and my company is purchased in the future, is there ever a scenario where the purchasing company will not pay me for the shares I hold?
Great info. Very technical. Thank you for sharing!👍
ESOP cant stop wont stop ;)
Great videos. Super informative
Just discovered this content - Great stuff
This was super helpful, thank you! Would be curious to hear your thoughts on Angels. I think what you advise is wise (not to take money) but I also think there are cases where, for example, the entrepreneurs are stuck with very little income at their jobs and they can't leave because it's a matter of survival. These are points where even just a little bit of money, like income for a year so they could quit their jobs, would be helpful. To be clear, I'm not talking about comfy Google jobs where someone makes $300K a year. I'm talking about minimum wage or less than that. So in those cases, would you advise searching for angel investors? Or does that also come with the baggage of losing control and all the other VC stuff?
Hey Chris, just wondering - you said that in reality one might not actually have to write the $10,000 check, and the lawyers would compute and eventually $90k just shows up. But later you say that if you don't have $100k then you won't be able to exercise your options...so just wanted clarity on whether one needs the cold hard cash to actually exercise one's options or not.
Well - great stuff but it is not like there are only two types of businesses - lifestyle or vc backed :) it is more like regular business vs vc funded tech startup style business. In fact about 90% of businesses are in the first category. Also tons of big huge companies started out as regular businesses and just grew really big - they are not “lifestyle” (a favorite vc term to put down any business that does not want to go their route) or vc funded. Like Walmart, Mailchimp, and many many many others (there is a whole great book about it called Building on Bedrock that has a lot more examples).
Honestly, the best video overall on TH-cam describing stock options. We’ll done!
This was the exact informative video I was looking for after endless searching through Google and Reddit. So, thankful! You have further strengthened my stance on bootstrapping my business. As a recent college grad, VC money is so ingrained in my mind due to the college environment where finance students are always talking about funding, funding, funding, valuations, term sheets, etc. Can't wait to look back at this in a few years!
This was so easy to understand! Thank you. Can you explain RSUs?
Seems like a gap between sound and picture?
Fantastic video! Thank you!
Amazing! Thanks a lot for the detailed explanations. Helped me a lot 🙂
This is exactly the info I needed. Awesome content.
Brutal honesty RULES!!!! Delivered timely😎🖖
Great video! Learned a ton!
After series C, is the company pretty much forced to IPO at some point? Or is there any kind of later stage fundraising that can happen?
Where is the 3rd vídeo? 👀
Great contents. Keep them coming. :)
you can't sell the options instead of excerising them?
Loving season 2 Chris! Thanks for keeping it real. Great education for Aussie startup employees, where the value of ESOP is misunderstood. We just haven’t had the same volume of wealth creation events in Australia to demonstrate personal impact. I’ll be sending @StartupVic community to this video (and part 1 of course)!
Awesome content and I love the dry humor! I'm validating 2 ideas at the moment through customer interviews. If the ideas are validated-customers are willing to throw money at me to build it-then the next step is to evaluate whether or not to go the VC funding route. Looking forward to seeing more content!
Keep them coming Chris!
Thanks so much for this great explanation Chris! Is it true when we talk about getting shares from a company where investors are anticipating a 10x return over 5yrs, the 409a will reduce your spread (due to the strike price increasing) if you aren’t able to exercise your options, and you will never realize the 10x spread if it does happen?
Chris, if you do part 3 like you mentioned in this episode, you may want to mention lockouts for those that IPO. Many don't realize this a typical stipulation. I worked for a Silicon Valley startup in the late 90s and early 2000s. We went public and had a great IPO. Unfortunately, the dotcom bubble burst prior to our 6-month lockout ending. We watched the share price climb to over $75 then nosedive until we were all under water before the end of the lockout. Obviously an extreme example, but it is a reality.
Chris, great episode. What's your feeling on giving stock options to every team member vs. limiting it to a more select group?
I'm a big believer in giving options to all employees! If your whole team operates with a sense of ownership, you're odds of success increase dramatically
Thanks for this! I had no idea how strike price was calculated. Also- I love the upgrades to lighting, music, and graphics in your new season. Nicely done!
This may relate to the last episode (I watched them back to back) but I was surprised that you said not to really think about the % of equity, just the # of shares/options. That may be true once you get hired, but while negotiating an offer, shouldn't the % really be the decider, since 100,000 options maybe really generous if the company has 2m shares outstanding, but not so much if its 10 or 20million shares. Obviously, once you have your options, then % is less relevant and just the quantity matters since that's a measure of your potential reward
I think the importance depends on the person/role and on the circumstances. The only thing % ownership tells you is how much you'll own relative to all the other investors combined. In a case where the company has raised several rounds and hired lots of people, I don't think % ownership is very informative. In the case where you're joining a new company in a critical leadership role and you're the first non-founder hire and the company has never raised money then % ownership could be informative in helping understand how the company views the importance of your role.
Thanks a lot. Finally I can see these topics applied to startups. It's like a financial engineering class, except for the fact I'm not falling asleep. Even though that blue light in the background is so relaxing ahaha
For the next episode, please can we provide some guideline for the number of options granted (or in percentage), including the initial offer and follow-on (e.g. evergreen)? Thanks!
Are you looking for industry averages for grant sizes? Just want to make sure I understand the ask.
@@VentureKills Thanks. It would be helpful to know the industry average for grant sizes in two scenarios. (1) the initial offer. It is easy to get industry average for CXO level, but how to judge the granted numbers for an individual contributor is appropriate? Shall we look at the percentage? Or considering the $ value when existing (so more following Option counts # and fair value)? (2) follow-on option grants, e.g. evergreen. What's the rule of thumb? Say, once someone finishes some anniversary points (2.5 years or 5 years), or get a promotion, what's the fair amount to ask for additional grants? Shall it based on a percentage of originally granted? Or shall it based on money terms (using options # and current valuation)? I found such areas are very opaque, especially for low/mid-level.
Shared. Solid education video here! (getting some mad editing skillz BTW)
Great, now I'm ready to take on wall street with my life savings, WSB here I come! JK, great video. Thanks for taking the time to share some knowledge with us.
New camera looks great! Welcome back
Thanks!
Hey, what are your thoughts on some new loan startups giving loans to give cash to exercise options? great video btw
Good question. I haven't paid too much attention to it yet although I worry about outstanding loans when employees don't have a definitive timeline or way of paying them back. I've seen too many people build financial plans around a liquidity event that never happens. I think a better option is to consider selling some shares to a secondary buyer in order to be able to fund exercising the rest. That way folks are at least exercising with money that they actually have in the bank.
@@VentureKills Ya I agree, I don't see myself taking loans and would rather exercise with cash and hodl, secondary liquidity is kinda hard but im excited to see what CartaX/EquityZen/SharePost do whether these catch on or stay niche.
@@EricCRO Yes, it will be interesting to watch. There has been the promise of a large-scale secondary market for a long time. One thing to remember is that existing investors often have a right-of-first-refusal to buy any common stock that people want to sell. This can discourage secondary buyers from negotiating if they feel they are wasting a bunch of time setting the price for insiders to buy.
Great video, thanks Chris! I'd love to hear your thoughts on typical percentages of options to expect as an early stage employee (foundation and engineer #1 of a bootstrapped SAAS company in my case). I know it'll have a lot to do with specifics of skills, wages and company size, but it's so hard to find this information so a general discussion would be much appreciated if possible 🙂
A really good question and a common one too. I'll talk about this a bunch in the next episode, but I wouldn't overly focus on percentage as the driving consideration. I know this is a big leap of faith and most people will ignore this advice, but your % ownership isn't as relevant as the number of shares granted AND the price point you're receiving your grant. If a company is really early, you should be able to get grants at a very low price and potentially a huge discount to the price an investor or buyer might pay in the near future. Think about how the multiple on your strike price might increase with success and then multiply that increase by the number of shares and decide if that upside is exciting to you. Your percent ownership will decrease overtime as the company raises money so don't get too stuck on that in the beginning. All that said, the industry average is probably between 1%-5% ownership based upon the scenario you described. That's obviously a big range but there are a lot of factors depending mostly on the mindset of the founders and how they are thinking about future growth and future capital needs. The closer they consider you to being one of the members of the founding team, the higher the % typically.
@@VentureKills great information, looking forward to it and thanks again!
I'm curious what portion of stock options ever become valuable; I'm guessing it's roughly the same as how many companies either reach an IPO or are purchased by another company (minus a little for too-high strike prices or shenanigans by the purchasing company), which seems like slightly better odds than buying a lottery ticket. That's probably the best way, as an employee, to think about them. They're worthless until they aren't, just like a lottery ticket, except that your efforts *may contribute to the chances of winning. And that's a huge asterisk, as many (or most) of the factors that go into the chances of winning are beyond the control of a typical employee, or even a c-level exec.
Good question and great points. 9 out of every 10 startups fail, so there is a good chance your options won't have value. I don't know the exact percentages, but your odds of making money are certainly better than playing the lottery :-). In addition to company performance, a lot of your success is dependent on how discounted your original strike price might have been relatively to the preferred price of the last round (I'll talk about this a bunch in the next episode). I think a healthy mindset for someone joining a company is to treat a new grant like a bonus that may or may not happen based purely on company performance. However, over time you should carefully track the performance of the company and the potential value of your options instead of continuing to assume the are worth zero. If the value of your options are clearly accelerating, you need to be aware of the financial implications around timing of exercise and other tax related matters.
Welcome back! Great summary of how stock options work and the various types of grants and tax implications. Thank you!
More to come!
Please ask questions or leave comments! Also, I know I spelled "simultaneously" wrong. I was too lazy to re-upload the video once I noticed.
I'll bring it back to the marriage comparison you use in another video. Marriage isn't based on the vibes or the feeling of love, but rather the commitment to the underlying terms of the marriage, fidelity, contribution, and support. It seems to be the same with business, the feelings can sway but the commitment to company's underlying principles have to remain steadfast.
My mom used to say, "make a great day," and it didn't occur to me until adulthood that she meant sometimes you just have to get over that wrong-side-of-the-bed mentality and seize your day. Great Vlog, thanks for facilitating this conversation, Moody.
It's great to see VCs who are also educators. And on that same note, please don't edit out your digressions, it's nice to be able to follow your train of thought. The way you went over the Dentist example step by step was illustrative.
Great line.... "be very careful of who you pretend to be"
Boulder neighbor here! Wonderful content and personality, you are much braver than I am. Film geek note: If you are noticing on your metrics that viewers are not making it through your episodes, try some soft-cuts instead of the hard jump-cuts. A little easier with respect to viewer fatigue factor. In any event, keep 'em coming and well done!
As a small startup, we really appreciate the perspectives and information you are providing (along with humor... this should be fun right?). What are your perspectives on what a food/beverage business startup can learn from the tech startup world and where do you see food businesses typically failing? Another topic we'd like to see you cover is what are your perspectives on best of class techniques for Networking/Mentorship. Thanks!
Great content. I’d love to hear about vetting good ideas.
I'm sharing with my VC class at CU
Really enjoying these videos. It would be great to hear about any strategies for landing that first enterprise client - you know, the one that loves your product and is happy to tell others. That B2B client validation is particularly critical for us (Analytics, InsurTech). Thanks.
Authenticity is such a great power law in business/life. Thanks for bringing up that trait as well as honesty.
Please have an episode on how to properly utilize lawyers (not using trebuchets) in startup and early funding rounds. Thanks for taking the time on these vids!
Will do!