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African Spirituality vs Christianity by Rev. Walter Mwambazi vs Joshua Maponga
African Spirituality vs Christianity by Rev. Walter Mwambazi vs Joshua Maponga
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  • @tshioma
    @tshioma วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rev Mwambazi was cooking here ... Maponga kept interjecting when the man is sharing deep wisdom

    • @botumileseleke2712
      @botumileseleke2712 59 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Remember this is a debate nothing else...listen to understand not to judge..

  • @onismomufare2860
    @onismomufare2860 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is so much confusion in this debate. I think the moderator failed

  • @chisangaclive721
    @chisangaclive721 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My hat off to Rev Mwambazi on climate change

  • @chisangaclive721
    @chisangaclive721 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤❤❤Bana Maponga... You are the best... The Rev is still a novice....

  • @johnkhaba9647
    @johnkhaba9647 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THERE IS NO NAME CALLED CHRISTIANITY IN THE BIBLE. SO CALLED "AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY WORD" IS AN INSULT TO OUR FOUR FATHERS.

  • @tonderaichihambakwe2146
    @tonderaichihambakwe2146 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Baba Maponga is a true luminary

  • @OnkeJack
    @OnkeJack 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watching all the way from South Africa🇿🇦Joshua Maponga nailed it. Please don't take a step back tata, you're in a good path continue to spread African Spirituality to four corners of the world. The good news is that African Spirituality is rapidly taking place in Southern Africa each and everyday under the leadership of iNkosi Yomoya/Spiritual King ubab'Uzwi-Lezwe Radebe!!!

    • @johnkhaba9647
      @johnkhaba9647 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This African Spirituality word is an insult to our four fathers.

  • @alexchamazulu8514
    @alexchamazulu8514 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rev is cooking , am now schooled

  • @philanifaku345
    @philanifaku345 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maponga breaks it down for even a little baby to overstand, great African teacher🫡

  • @tinasheesbart8775
    @tinasheesbart8775 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The debate was a very peaceful one, but I just have one thing that I would love to understand about the Bible and its believers. Why is it God hated the Africans too much to an extent that he can even dare communicate to them directly, instead, he uses the Bible which was brought to us by the white settlers?

    • @johnkhaba9647
      @johnkhaba9647 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Bible is bantu history, Deutoromy 14 vs 2 reads, For thou are holy people unto the Lord thy God, the Lord thy God had CHOSEN YOU to be a special people unto Himself. Deutoromy 7 vs 8 reads, But because the Lord LOVED YOU and because He would keep the Oath which He had SWORN unto your Fathers.

  • @MarshalT.Mutizira
    @MarshalT.Mutizira 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The description of knowing God (African spirituality) VERSUS believing in God (Christianity)

    • @johnkhaba9647
      @johnkhaba9647 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is nothing called Christianity in the Bible. And the word "African Spirituality" is an insult to our four fathers.

  • @sonininyaniso9683
    @sonininyaniso9683 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The lazy bummy are the one who searching for God. They just want to receive by just praying and worshipping - they remind me of some woman who just stand at the corner with small bags selling their bodies. If you don't accept that "is it not written that you are gods" at least accept that he is in you!

  • @THEGreatUpDATE-l2d
    @THEGreatUpDATE-l2d 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A Home Can Only FIXED By those who reside in that house, after they have laid laws and rules, then strangers and visitors can come in , and follow those rules... So to Redesign our African Truth, we have to let go of those who are not part of that, Africans for Africans nothing else

  • @THEGreatUpDATE-l2d
    @THEGreatUpDATE-l2d 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A Home Can Only FIXED By those who reside in that house, after they have laid laws and rules, then strangers and visitors can come in , and follow those rules... So to Redesign our African Truth, we have to let go of those who are not part of that, Africans for Africans nothing else

  • @nigelmudumiso193
    @nigelmudumiso193 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great insights right there. I have learnt a lot from both sides.

  • @ThulaniChingoda-o9u
    @ThulaniChingoda-o9u 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best debate only disturbed by poor sound quality.

  • @lyricsarepower6904
    @lyricsarepower6904 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    to some of us, the bible is just a book, it holds no weight when you base your premises on what the bible says.

    • @johnkhaba9647
      @johnkhaba9647 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Bible is our Photo Album.

  • @lyricsarepower6904
    @lyricsarepower6904 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a few minutes in the conversation and rev. walter is using the bible to defend the bible😅, why is he assuming that everyone that is listening considers the bible as a source of facts...

    • @Kanu---004
      @Kanu---004 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Take your flowers sir👏👏

    • @johnkhaba9647
      @johnkhaba9647 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Bible is our photo album.

    • @botumileseleke2712
      @botumileseleke2712 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The Bible is a Bubble hence those who believes in it crack easily during debates or pops out

  • @traditionsreborn7836
    @traditionsreborn7836 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can't outthink them in their language

  • @umuntunimwelwa9083
    @umuntunimwelwa9083 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So the big question must be, are the same gods or spirits evil or good, should they be embraced or not?? And that supreme GOD who's above all gods, DOES HE HAVE THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS IN ALL RELIGIONS, AND ARE THOSE CHARACTERISTICS BEING EXPERIENCED BY THESE PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS BELIEFS??

    • @johnkhaba9647
      @johnkhaba9647 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is only one YAHUWA.

    • @MarshalT.Mutizira
      @MarshalT.Mutizira วันที่ผ่านมา

      The African idea of GOD is not biblical. God is unknown and unknowable, that why in our African religion we don't have an image of GOD (like this picture of GOD)...So we are GOD having a human experience...we are components/aspects of God....the totality of the Sun, the moon, the stars, the trees and everything when combined is GOD. Out of the 3000 tribes we have in Africa there is no single tribe which does not have the name of GOD...People are like the GOD they worship. In Ancient cultures specifically Egypt the Son of God mean the SUN GOD which is also referred to as RA. Thats why you see the picture of Jesus with the 12 disciples at the last super has a halop. On Christmas the sun dies for 3 days 22, 23, 24 then rise on the 25th and it moves 1 degree....The thing of the Sun started in Egypt…but its found across Africa…that why its said RA-MA-SEDI… (RA is the Sun…Ma is the Moon and SED is the stars… he the trinity of the heavenly bodies/lights or the luminary of the sky. The problem with Christians in relation to the sun is that they demonized people who worshiped the Sun We have to be care when using the word RELIGION as Religion is a formalized belief, a organized superstition...whereas African Spirituality is just superstition

  • @brightonjumbe3243
    @brightonjumbe3243 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Friendly debate I love these two respond to each other and respect each other's views

  • @ebenymukanhairi5891
    @ebenymukanhairi5891 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Two gentlemen were on point.

    • @LuckyService-m8k
      @LuckyService-m8k 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The difference between the two is that one quotes the bible and another is plugged and in tune with the voice of the Creator,natural intelligence vs biblical studies,belief vs knowledge.

    • @johnkhaba9647
      @johnkhaba9647 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Proverbs 2 vs 6 reads, For the Lord gives WISDOM AND OUT OF HISMOUTH comes KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING.

  • @kalubadanny6646
    @kalubadanny6646 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bright even if you knew that your are going to left us bro rest in peace

  • @mwariwemwenjewacho
    @mwariwemwenjewacho 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reality Check!!!

  • @Jirroh
    @Jirroh หลายเดือนก่อน

    The beast will kick people out of farms citing climate change rules ,, don't be clever ,, believe in Jesus,,

  • @Jirroh
    @Jirroh หลายเดือนก่อน

    R U the host or the guest speaker????

  • @phillwainaina7252
    @phillwainaina7252 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its. good AFRICA. Is. Escaping. Theologia. European. Lies. Stop Inferiority complex. Interpretation.. Greco roman lies. And. Colonisation... Bible. Were. Scrolled. By black men. Here. In. Africa

  • @kygmanyathela222
    @kygmanyathela222 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maponga's wisdom ll destroy fools. This ia anothwr satanic message again

    • @phillwainaina7252
      @phillwainaina7252 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What. Are. You. Saying

    • @queenwere1
      @queenwere1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂 Who is Satan? The message is not for everyone

    • @ezekielshija9251
      @ezekielshija9251 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are people who don't dare truth

  • @VictorShongwe-eh3sc
    @VictorShongwe-eh3sc หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my young days i accepted everything. In my old days, i question everything

    • @queenwere1
      @queenwere1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 we're all questioning

  • @leonardsoto3104
    @leonardsoto3104 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an intelligent eloquent speaker. But no anointing. At times I ask , what is he saying?

  • @thobekankuna1524
    @thobekankuna1524 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are quite right Maponga. Those who have ears will hear. Those who still think you must stay in the box and be suffocated will see to finish. Keep on doing what the Lord has sent you to do. Some think you must go to do's and don'ts of Adventism in order for you to satisfy them. I'm glad they don't have the heaven. Keep it up Joshua. I thank God for your life.

  • @macfouttycahtell7620
    @macfouttycahtell7620 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is deep.....

  • @KhangelaneHadebe
    @KhangelaneHadebe หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy is evil like all the doers of the on earth,twisting the word of God to his own evilness

    • @thehardertheyfall3764
      @thehardertheyfall3764 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U are lost, this man is deep.. he has a PhD is theology hence he can relate contemporary issues to Bible… none of these African prophets can break down the Bible like maponga

    • @phillwainaina7252
      @phillwainaina7252 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maponga. Is right. Acolonier christianity like this here . You. White. Jesus. With blue. Eyes. Worshippers fools. Full of inferiority complex...has no. Commonsense . He is in chains. And. Owned. By Europeans. We. Are awake. We. Have. Escaped your foolishness.

  • @nontumyeza8575
    @nontumyeza8575 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hallelujah 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Well said my brother, Thank you👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @nakitojane3740
    @nakitojane3740 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deep waters again

  • @nakitojane3740
    @nakitojane3740 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ohhhhhhh deeper waters again thank God sent maponga

  • @tysonmcgee6518
    @tysonmcgee6518 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥🔥🔥🔥👉🏾👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿🐕💨

  • @andreamatt8138
    @andreamatt8138 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Church and state will unite in America we already see the King of the North and King of the South at war already

  • @nqobizithanormansele
    @nqobizithanormansele หลายเดือนก่อน

    A confused man ever this is not a pastor . don't be confused by english .you no nothing

  • @isheanesuchakamanga4763
    @isheanesuchakamanga4763 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How correct is the interpretation of the 10 toes symbolize The 10 countries Maponga mentioned.. How correct and accurate is that interpretation

  • @stonemuk
    @stonemuk หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought it was Eliezer who was sent to look for a wife for Isaac😊.

  • @BruceGandari
    @BruceGandari หลายเดือนก่อน

    He went straight into it 😂 from the beginning

  • @libertymachonisaliberty
    @libertymachonisaliberty หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maponga its time to finish this thing my brother. We have played its enough time is nolonger. We can do it. We have the power to finish.

  • @KudakwasheTsikira
    @KudakwasheTsikira หลายเดือนก่อน

    Full video please

  • @juliuschikupa6306
    @juliuschikupa6306 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The video was short today i subscribe to this channel

  • @KG-Ministries
    @KG-Ministries หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amen Pastor Maponga this is very informative well said

  • @faraijoffreymutepfa873
    @faraijoffreymutepfa873 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The prodigal son is returning back home. He has touched upon the skeleton structure beautifully, but has left out many other important themes. Brought up taught by a wise man the late Elder Maponga. After all, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.

    • @faraijoffreymutepfa873
      @faraijoffreymutepfa873 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Understanding the historical flow method of bible interpretation. 1. Repetitive structure. The message is given again & again to the point of irritation. God's aim is to leave a long lasting impression in your mind. The important message is repeated so many times. 2. comparative structure. Isaiah 28:10 - 10 *For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little* : 2 Corinthians 13:1-4 KJV - *This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established* 3. Reveal & expand methodology. 1st prophet & 2nd prophet emphasis of the same message. Daniel reveals in chapters 2, 7, 8, 10, 11 & 12. Jesus expands on this in Mathew 24. Revelation further expands from Daniel & Jesus. Another example Enoch - 1st prophet, Noah- 2nd prophet. Abraham- 1st prophet, Moses- 2nd prophet. Jeremiah- Daniel. Elijah- John the baptist. Elisha- Jesus. Etc. 4. Dual application format of prophecy. Genesis 3:15, Daniel, Matthew 24 are pointing to the coming next few years from when the words are spoken. So Jesus in AD31 is foretelling the end of Jerusalem in AD70. And in the same message, He is also pointing to the far distant future 2000 years from Calvary(Daniel's 2300 days prophecy). Dual or double application. The message means the same today as in the next 2000 years. Same message. The same way Noah understood it, is the same way with you today. 5. Historical flow method. When you hear Jesus saying, ' *and then*'. This means stage 1 to stage 2 without a gap. A continuous flow. 6. Prophecy. The aspect of reading history in reverse. Jesus - *As it was in the days of Noah & Lot* . Spoken by Solomon - *there is nothing knew, if it happens today. It's because it has happened before.* Therefore Revelation is reading history in reverse. 7. Isaiah 8:20. Noah is speaking like Enoch. Moses is speaking like Abraham. John the baptist is speaking like Elijah. Jesus is speaking like Elisha. Revelation is speaking like Daniel.

    • @faraijoffreymutepfa873
      @faraijoffreymutepfa873 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Daniel 2 leading into Daniel 7, into Matthew 24, into Revelation 13. The teaching of the head Babylon the head/mouth/ message of gold was passed on to Medo - Persia into the heart(human passions & the works of their hands). Feet of a bear Medo- Persia, this message of Babylon in Revelation 13 is spread into the whole world through Mithraism(Medo- Persia- Zoroastra). Which where passed on to the stomach & hips (Greek philosophy). The leopard in Revelation 13, the bulk of everything we practise & believe today(education, religion, society, military etc). And Rome took this into the whole world through force(Iron) . So Revelation 13 is talking about Babylon, Medo- Persia, Greece & Rome together! That philosophy is what Daniel is seeing in Chapter 2. When Jesus( the stone destroys the feet). The whole image in Daniel chapter 2 is destroyed because, Jesus's 2nd coming/ The Stone destroys all human history's traditions with one blow. It destroys Babylon- the head & the mouth( idea & message). It destroys Medo- Persia, the chest cavity & the heart. The side effects of human instincts to the heart coming from the mind. It destroys Greek philosophy the side effects of the mind & the heart coming down into the stomach & hips. The bulk of everything way we think today. It also destroys Rome which basically didn't introduce anything knew. Rome basically put an umbrella on Babylon, Medo- Persia & Greece. Rome forced the whole world to accept Babylon, Medo- Persia & Greek philosophy.

    • @faraijoffreymutepfa873
      @faraijoffreymutepfa873 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Covid 19 marked something in Christianity. Which i know, but i am still studying to understand. Perhaps the beginning of the end times for us. I am very worried about this time. Something happened here which we didn't understand. Or take seriously. Something happened during Covid 19 which has everything to do with all biblical prophecy. It disturbs me every second.

    • @tapiwamate7610
      @tapiwamate7610 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How old is this video, because of late I've seen him bashing Christianity.

    • @VictoriaMuzenda
      @VictoriaMuzenda หลายเดือนก่อน

      New ​@@tapiwamate7610

  • @maggielivuza5453
    @maggielivuza5453 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your stars are numerous elder Maponga. All this will testify one day.

  • @chikondidanieldziko6168
    @chikondidanieldziko6168 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are not the end of time. We are alive and will be dead. Others will come and other will go .

    • @libertymachonisaliberty
      @libertymachonisaliberty หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too late for that my brother, time is nolonger

    • @Josephsikazwe161
      @Josephsikazwe161 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too late for you my brother​@@libertymachonisaliberty

  • @samdzveta6552
    @samdzveta6552 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is now the JOSHUA that I know. Praise GOD