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Don Carpentier
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Engine Turned Pottery on a 1768 Style Potters Lathe Designed by Wedgwood
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Don Carpentier & Jonathan Rickard show how Josiah Wedgwood's 1768 Engine Turning Lathe was used to produce intricate designs on his pottery. Don built a new copy of the 1768 lathe and demonstrates to viewers all the parts and how the machine works. Also you will see pots made on the engine lathe.
Thank you this is so interesting! What wonderful mugs!
thank you for sharing this. i had no idea you could turn greenware on a lathe like wood. i would have thought it to fragile. The world is a little bit dimmer for the loss of these dedicated and generous mentors. "Jonathan Shaw Rickard passed away on October 15 at his home in Deep River, Conn., at the age of 80. Born on April 4, 1942, in Attleboro, Mass., he was the son of Ruth Wheeler Rickard and Robert Hazard Rickard. In lieu of flowers, donations in Jonathan’s memory may be made to Historic Eastfield Foundation, c/o William McMillen, 3 Timber Lane, Glenmont, NY, 12077." "Don Carpentier was born September 22, 1951 in Knoxville, Tennessee before eventually moving to New York in 1954 and finally to East Nassau with his parents in 1966. Don was a self-taught craftsman, tinsmith, blacksmith, potter, carpenter, and mason, as well as a teacher, mentor, father, friend, husband, brother and uncle. Regretfully we lost Don from ALS at the early age of 62 on August 26, 2014."
Nice color
Similiar machines were used in the manufacture of parts for internal combustion engines. Specifically the camshafts and to so degree pistons. Camshaft profiles were ground using a Master Cam that would be followed by a roller. The roller was mounted on a cradle that would rock in and out allowing the cam profile to ground. Pistons are made with elliptical skirts. Some were turned with elliptical profiles mounted on the spindles the would move the cutting tools in and out.
Awesome! Thanks so much for sharing! ❤Wish they still made them.
PS, Love the music!!
I finished my reproduction of the lathe today, test runs tomorrow!
Wow! ❤
Rest in peace.
Brilliant
I was a hand glazing manager at Johnson Bros in Croydon Victoria Australia, Table Ware Manufacture. I spent 2 weeks in the Johnson and Wedgwood factories in England in 1998. I was shown the original lathe and a copy that was made. I marvel at its function and have talked about it on numerous occasions since. My, possibly faulty recollection, was that it had wooden cams and rope or leather belt-driven pullies. Note: I went on to become the Production Manager at Johnson Bros Croydon until its close in 1985. At peak production, we produced 250,000 pieces a week!
That’s awesome. I’m making a Wedgwood documentary and I found one former employee. I would love to hear anything you have to share if you’re interested/willing to do so?
@@Ste_Robbo I worked in Johnson Pottery (became part of the Wedgwood group and Johnson Tiles in Croydon Victoria Australia. Happy to talk.
It's so beautiful. I never see that coming.
This is an ornamental lathe sometimes called a rose engine they operate differently than an engine lathe which is made to machine engine castings
Sorry but that's not what an engine lathe means. Yes an engine lathe could be used for some types of engine castings, but over all Engines are mostly machined on a milling machine. A lathe turns the work with the cutting tool rigidly held, a mill turns the tool with the work rigidly held. Pottery just might have some different terms? But calling it engine turned is I think misnamed by quite a bit. Engine turning or another word for it is jeweling is completely different. The front cowl on the Spirit of St. Louis airplane is engine turned. This is ornamental turning no matter if the material being work is wood, ivory, metal or clay. However if that's the correct pottery term then of course I'm incorrect.
@@turningpoint6643 the term engine lathe came about in the steam engine days when milling machines didn't exist yet and most engines were single cylinder... again it is termed for machining engine castings The rose engine is another matter altogether it was invented before such lathes for ornamental turning in wood and ivory and got adapted to pottery and metal later, it is termed before anything we think of as an engine was invented and for the rosette patterns it easily makes... It is a lathe with a non stationary headstock that rocks with copying cams possibly in two directions at once
@@Ho1yhe11 That's only one possible answer for the engine lathe term. Afaik it's exact origin and meaning is a bit muddled in history. But it was also used when the larger lathes started to become driven by those steam engines. Using the term engine lathe while seldom heard today is still in use by some and more so in some country's than others for lathes that will never see a steam engine part. Prior to wide spread use of steam power, ornamental and the more standard smaller lathes were driven by foot power. Water or actual horse power was sometimes used on larger lathes before steam power was developed. For the much smaller steam engine single cylinders then yes a lathe can be used. Once really larger cylinders were required they were bored on a tool very much like today's Horizontal Boring Machines. (HBM's) which were invented for and used while boring cannon barrels, and that was long before steam engines as we think of them were invented. Woolwich Arsenal in the UK used that type of machine tool while building and bore machining large cannon for the Royal Navy. There's many steam engine designs that are multiple cylinders as well as what are known as expansion engines with two or more cylinders in a single casting where it would be impossible to off set the parts and bore each cylinder on a lathes head stock. I'm well aware of what a Rose engine lathe is, it's history and how it works, but others may not be. I watched the video because of my interest in ornamental turning and have many reprinted books on some of the classic OT writings including the books Holzaphel wrote. As I said, unless the pottery trade uses quite different terms and meanings and that's completely possible. Then calling this method engine turned is misnamed since it's a completely different process that can be done on flat sheets or on almost any shape. Engine turning despite it's name is more a process that uses abrasion to form circular overlapping patterns and not the more conventional removal of material by cutting.
Thank you for showing this technique. I've never seen it live before. The origin of this technique must obviously come from ivory turning in the 17th century. The technique seems to be very similar. th-cam.com/video/Y5TZWNIfsoE/w-d-xo.html
Awesome! So what intriguing use did the old potters do with the pieces of shaved slip? In the Victoria & Albert Museum, London, there is an engine turned Wedgewood vase with a disparaging comment by the curator about it being an easy technique, ignoring the fact that it has hardly been done since, in the last 200 years!
that was absolutely wonderful, thank you so much for this. I am currently writing an art history dissertation on English pottery and have been trying to figure out how these lathes worked -- what a revelation your research is!
I built mine out of an old geared down gate opener in a day .Works like a charm....
Got any advice or schematics?
You leave me speechless
That is just beautiful
What a craftsman wedgewood would be pleased
I'm intrigued, wondering what the shavings were used for? Is there another video?
it's called The Potters's Friend. An upgrade to corn cobs.
Video starts at 13min
Interesting. I have always seen the potter's wheel as the precursor of the wood turning lathe.
The potters wheel is the precursor of the entire machine tool industry with the possible exception of shapers an planers
Exelente
Beautiful process Don, very interesting! I used to work in a pottery producing plant when I was younger, and these days I'm woodturning, so both worlds combines equals beauty. Yuval
I might have known that you'd seen this. lol
@@danceswithaardvarks3284 hey mate, I've only just got the notification you responded to my comment. only took youtube a month to alert me...
THANKSGIVING
Radical! Mechanized sgraffito! How amazing.
beautiful, thank you for sharing
very knowledge machine. please furnish the address of supplers
Thanks a lot for sharing and taking your time to investigate, very interesting. I know this would be another type of lathe, but I wonder if the screw-thread at for example ceramic bed-warmer bottles also were made on a lathe.
How is the pot created before it goes on the mandrel? What is the mandrel made of? How does the pot not slip on the mandrel? How is the pot removed from the mandrel?
The pot is thrown or Jollied and when leather hard it is put on the mandrel. The mandrel can be of wood or plaster and has a very slight taper. The leather hard clay is very tenacious and can stand the pressure of being forced onto the mandrel by being struck gently by the palm of the hand. To get it off just a sideways wiggle and it breaks free and slides off.