I am truly so grateful for the presence process as it's the only book I never put back on the shelf. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💕❤️💕❤️💕 Every time I read it I lean new layers about myself and I think I always will. Thank you forever 🙏❤️.
I must give a shout out for the Presence Process. It changed my life. Along with the teachings that led me there. 2020 I was so present it annoyed many. Of course I didn't understand why. Until I needed to feel again to Process my pain. I hope this helps someone.
Absolutely incredible advice! For all humans, of all religions, of all backgrounds. And a beautiful insight into the meaning behind symbolism of certain religious messages, in true psychotherapeutic processing terms! Thank you so much 🙏🥰💖🌙😌🌀🌈❤️🦋☀️✨
Hey! thank you so much for posting it! it's so useful! i would like to translate it into spanish, but the video it's not enable to community contributions. Can you help me?
It sounds good, but he doesn't really address the reality of deep emotional pain, of trauma. Neither does Eckart Tolle, who has a similar approach. Just bringing 'presence' to it, without allowing the energy of the feeling to fully connect in the body is, or becomes just more dissociation. It (the real energy of the feeling) has to be felt, in the body, allowed to fully connect with the root of the experience, and for it to then have it's spontaneous flow to resolution, like a wave that rises, builds, breaks, and then dissipates on the sand. The feeling may be grief, fear, terror, anger, rage, or other body sensations (including birth pain) that were stored, not processed at the time they happened from traumatic, overwhelming experiences. If you truly 'bring presence' to the 'emotional signature', it is not quiet, or without movement, if the energy is honored and allowed to flow, not blocked or dissociated from, allowed to have it's spontaneous expression. It will be as quiet or loud as the reality of the feeling expressed, and will usually connect to early childhood experiences with the spontaneous expression of that age, in the vocabulary of whatever age the original experience happened. A big part of my early childhood experience was being terrorized and violently abused. The experience of truly bringing presence to it is not a detached, quiet experience. It is the real, truthful expression of exactly what it felt like at the time (but was not safe to express, and from which I froze and dissociated). It is loud, the expression of a terrorized little child. Also, if fully allowed to flow, it will not go on forever, and we will not go crazy, as some people fear. The body/spirit knows what we can process (or not) and will bring up only what we can handle at a given time. If we, or someone else, are not pushing ourselves to feel more than we are ready for. It probably is something that to be safe on an ongoing basis, most people need to be with a safe person (therapist, or person, facilitator who is comfortable with emotional release). But when comfortable with the process it is something we can do on our own to get release from painful feelings (some call flashbacks) from past trauma experiences. Not something he was advocating, but important; 'getting out feelings' is not it, will not bring about deep resolution, but maybe temporary release. By that I mean hitting a mattress, deliberate screaming, or other ways of self directed, willful attempts at emotional release. These could be a start, a catalyst maybe, but the goal, or place to get to, is where the feeling takes over in the body, and everything then happens completely spontaneously, without directed intention, just letting go completely. Scary in the beginning, but safe.
He does not teach getting out of the feeling at all. Have read his book? I totally aggree with you especially aobut mr. Tolle. In Michaels work you do not bring presence to it......you discover presence through the clearing of these emotional signatures from childhood.....you fully feel the emotion without condition...one of Michaels hallmark sentences is "it is not about feeling better, but getting better at feeling". His whole work is about these childhood imprints and that we have to finally allowe ourselves to fully feel them.No discociation here :-) ....all the best!
@@TheSmooooth Yes, the overall description sounds good, sounds right, but does he accurately describe what it actually means to fully feel the emotion, the reality of what that may mean, the possible intensity of the energy, and how it may need to move through the body, and what may be needed to accommodate that experience? It can't really be experienced while sitting in a chair, but needs a safe space, maybe lying on a mattress, possibly in a soundproof space (or semi soundproof), to accommodate the reality of the experience. Maybe I missed something, but I didn't hear it. It comes across in the way he talks about it (as with Tolle), as a very detached experience, 'witnessing'.the feelings/pain, which may seem natural for some who aren't able to fully connect to their pain, and assume that kind of detached 'witnessing'' is feeling the feelings. It could be a place to start, if that's where a person is, but then to become more connected to the real energy in the body, as a person is able to handle it. I was not intending to imply that he was advocating forcing or 'getting out feelings'. I didn't hear that, just was mentioning it because when it comes to emotional release, it's something that some people do because they don't know there is a deeper level of surrender, letting go to allow feelings to express spontaneously, and/or they are afraid of that kind of uncontrolled, deeper release. All the best to you too!
@@TheSmooooth Just watched another video in which he describes just 'being with the anger', but doesn't describe what that might mean if the real energy of the real pain in the anger is connected with, in the body. So it comes across as a detached witnessing experience. That anger if fully allowed to connect, might express itself as real anger, at the age it was originally experienced as a child, or the deeper feeling the anger is a defense against, usually deep, unbearable feelings of powerlessness, in the face of abandonment, or other kinds of abuse.
@@lawrenceduff7368 Well......i also had ptsd and for me some experience are loud but most are not....and it has healed.......so i am not 100% with you about the lying down and sound proof room. for me ..once we see the drama we build into emotion the whole process calmed down.....still crying, sometimes screaming etc. but from there i was able to feel it fully without acting it out like a child would did. Well he does say when anger comes you are angry and the world is an angry place etc. but he is not for the way like you did it. i have seen people come from a place like yours (which is very effectiv) to come to a calmer place (still intense). He talks about full surrender (he calls it sure-end-der) and "the only way out is through". He says that there is a place in all of this like you did but says there are calmer ways to do it (he himself started his process in that very intense way, screaming etc.). But as we do this work, everyone i know experienced an expanding awarness and the energies then can flow through more easily (because there is more space) without letting the body going through it fully (still to some degree though). But i totally get where you are coming from....and that is a much needed messeage....maybe not under a Brown vid but under Tolles vids and all the other non-dual teachers who seem to be very congested emotionally. Best :-)
@@lawrenceduff7368 Just remembered when he said once that he has never seen more emotionally suppressed people than those who follow non-dual teachings. He talks about how hard this work is to emotionally grow up and how messy etc. Read his alchemy of the heart ....where he describes how we suppress as a child because it is too overwhelming and how that affects us in the adult life. If he would talk about detachement he would not use messy, really hard, most people do not want to feel etc. in his wording. And he continually mentions that we are not in our bodies because it is a hell in there so we stay in our head. So one part of his work (with some practices) is to get back into the body.
The doer is the us that is trying to be in control and always finding a way to feel better. Once this goes away, "dies," what is left is the you without this desire to suppress and control how you feel.
Joanna Karp Day 4. I'm finding that just being aware of emotions without thinking is difficult, but I just started, and it does seem to be getting easier. He does say that it's hard. I plan to be consistent for forty days. I'll let you know when I'm finished.
He decided that he would release his books, workshops, and interviews and then simply walk his own path. He refuses to become a full time guru for anyone else than himself - he wants his material to speak for itself to those who have real ears to hear and real eyes to see. The books will find its students is his way of looking at it.
Olive, in my work with self and other with emotions, I focus on these 3 emotions to help simplify. One can expand out to other emotions, but I find that anger is a protection response when one has had a vulnerable feeling that felt threatening to the survival brain, and had you go into fight/flight. The vulnerable feeling is always fear, and sometimes hurt/grief/loss. Fear can be hard to identify, but it's always there. We can't resolve anger by only focusing on and expressing our anger because it isn't the original emotion. Some people, however have been so shamed for being angry (like men shamed for softness/tears) that they need to find a way to acknowledge and vent the anger first--but not towards others. This is especially true of women, in my experience. Sorry for the long detailed response. This learning to deal with emotions in a constructive way has been a passion of mine for 35 years. I've finally gotten some clues on how to not suppress anger and how to not attack others with anger, and still resolve it. PS: I haven't listened to the video yet, but plan to.
@@billwhite5011 hello sir, I just read your comment and can't agree more. I started with reading Letting Go by Dr David Hawkins, wonderful book but it was focused on transcending alot many places and I wasn't really getting anywhere. My problem is with ANGER, and he says sit with it after sometime it'll dissipate, that's what exactly happened with me. .but that anger never went away, it dissipated for awhile but the trigger would remain . Finally I came across other sources, there's a channel called DivineTruth on TH-cam, I don't know if the people are indeed what they're claiming to be, but they talked about feeling your emotions until you complete release them-and they also focused on these three- anger, fear and grief. It was like exactly the same. I left following that channel because of unsure credibility but I couldn't take out this out of my head-about releasing the main fear and grief under the anger. I came across the presence process now and the results of ppl are amazing. This make me Soo sure that this is it!! But, I'm just so scared of starting the book even coz then I'll have to start it and I live with my parents, and am not financially independent yet, and just don't know how they'll react to my increasing emotional state. That's just keeps me stuck
@@khushboosharma1135 Thank you for your story and info, and validation. I'll look up Divine Truth. I figured out the anger (fear and grief) on my own. I sure would have liked to have known that key so many years ago. Yes, it is very tricky living with people who aren't into their own growth, particularly parents. Unless I'm destitute, I won't live with anyone who isn't into growth. Wish you well on your journey
@@khushboosharma1135 also, I just looked up Divine truth teachings. I realize I've listened to him before. I LOVE his messages. I don't really care who he thinks he is :) Thanks again for the reminder. I haven't listened to a lot of his stuff, but am going to watch his videos on anger based on what you said
Good question, for me the work is difficult when i am around people because i tend to mask what i am feeling, i have difficulty allowing myself to be authentic, and often i go in my head to try to find a solution to feel better. It’s easier when i am by myself for sure, but the outside is really showing me where i abandonned my own needs because of the presence of others. Probably a lot of conditioning cuz i didn’t know how else to react back in the days.
you do not heal emotions....there is nothing to be healed. the suppressed ones are to be accepted and fully felt. thinking they need healing is the mind wanting to be in control. that things are reflected back through outside circumstances is very useful because we hide them soo much that we need these triggers to get into contact again with these suppressed parts. hope that helps. best
I am truly so grateful for the presence process as it's the only book I never put back on the shelf. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💕❤️💕❤️💕 Every time I read it I lean new layers about myself and I think I always will. Thank you forever 🙏❤️.
👁🤍🙏🏻 thanks 🎉
Brilliant talk. Thanks for sharing and thanks Michael for your wisdom.
Really I'm happy for find you I'm love you
When do you integrate your anger and when do you say no to abuse? Where do you draw the line?
I feel that once you start integrating you are able to better protect your inner child and saying NO to parasites that feed of your anger
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❤ amazing!!! ❤ Thank you Michael
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What a wonderful information. To heal it you have to feel it ! ❤️
I must give a shout out for the Presence Process. It changed my life. Along with the teachings that led me there. 2020 I was so present it annoyed many. Of course I didn't understand why. Until I needed to feel again to Process my pain. I hope this helps someone.
Best audio explaining the presence process, thank you 🌹🌹
beautiful thanks for uploading and Michael Brown thanks ...tpp transformed my life in a way i cant express...
Thank you so much for this guide. Thank yoy so much. It brings the light into my life. Thank you so much. Semding trememdous love.
شكرا لك انت غيرت حياتي وطريقه نظرتي للحياة انت أبصرت وجعلني أرى أن الحياة واسعه وان كل شي متاح لي بمعنى حررتني من قيودي ممتنه لك ❤
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Absolutely incredible advice! For all humans, of all religions, of all backgrounds. And a beautiful insight into the meaning behind symbolism of certain religious messages, in true psychotherapeutic processing terms! Thank you so much 🙏🥰💖🌙😌🌀🌈❤️🦋☀️✨
40 days picking 1 from the list of 10 or everyday different one from this 10 keywords list? That is unclear for me.
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Thank so much Michael for giving and posting this talk. This indeed is what I require right now 🙏❤️
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Hey! thank you so much for posting it! it's so useful! i would like to translate it into spanish, but the video it's not enable to community contributions. Can you help me?
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It sounds good, but he doesn't really address the reality of deep emotional pain, of trauma. Neither does Eckart Tolle, who has a similar approach. Just bringing 'presence' to it, without allowing the energy of the feeling to fully connect in the body is, or becomes just more dissociation. It (the real energy of the feeling) has to be felt, in the body, allowed to fully connect with the root of the experience, and for it to then have it's spontaneous flow to resolution, like a wave that rises, builds, breaks, and then dissipates on the sand. The feeling may be grief, fear, terror, anger, rage, or other body sensations (including birth pain) that were stored, not processed at the time they happened from traumatic, overwhelming experiences. If you truly 'bring presence' to the 'emotional signature', it is not quiet, or without movement, if the energy is honored and allowed to flow, not blocked or dissociated from, allowed to have it's spontaneous expression. It will be as quiet or loud as the reality of the feeling expressed, and will usually connect to early childhood experiences with the spontaneous expression of that age, in the vocabulary of whatever age the original experience happened. A big part of my early childhood experience was being terrorized and violently abused. The experience of truly bringing presence to it is not a detached, quiet experience. It is the real, truthful expression of exactly what it felt like at the time (but was not safe to express, and from which I froze and dissociated). It is loud, the expression of a terrorized little child. Also, if fully allowed to flow, it will not go on forever, and we will not go crazy, as some people fear. The body/spirit knows what we can process (or not) and will bring up only what we can handle at a given time. If we, or someone else, are not pushing ourselves to feel more than we are ready for. It probably is something that to be safe on an ongoing basis, most people need to be with a safe person (therapist, or person, facilitator who is comfortable with emotional release). But when comfortable with the process it is something we can do on our own to get release from painful feelings (some call flashbacks) from past trauma experiences. Not something he was advocating, but important; 'getting out feelings' is not it, will not bring about deep resolution, but maybe temporary release. By that I mean hitting a mattress, deliberate screaming, or other ways of self directed, willful attempts at emotional release. These could be a start, a catalyst maybe, but the goal, or place to get to, is where the feeling takes over in the body, and everything then happens completely spontaneously, without directed intention, just letting go completely. Scary in the beginning, but safe.
He does not teach getting out of the feeling at all. Have read his book? I totally aggree with you especially aobut mr. Tolle. In Michaels work you do not bring presence to it......you discover presence through the clearing of these emotional signatures from childhood.....you fully feel the emotion without condition...one of Michaels hallmark sentences is "it is not about feeling better, but getting better at feeling". His whole work is about these childhood imprints and that we have to finally allowe ourselves to fully feel them.No discociation here :-) ....all the best!
@@TheSmooooth Yes, the overall description sounds good, sounds right, but does he accurately describe what it actually means to fully feel the emotion, the reality of what that may mean, the possible intensity of the energy, and how it may need to move through the body, and what may be needed to accommodate that experience? It can't really be experienced while sitting in a chair, but needs a safe space, maybe lying on a mattress, possibly in a soundproof space (or semi soundproof), to accommodate the reality of the experience. Maybe I missed something, but I didn't hear it. It comes across in the way he talks about it (as with Tolle), as a very detached experience, 'witnessing'.the feelings/pain, which may seem natural for some who aren't able to fully connect to their pain, and assume that kind of detached 'witnessing'' is feeling the feelings. It could be a place to start, if that's where a person is, but then to become more connected to the real energy in the body, as a person is able to handle it. I was not intending to imply that he was advocating forcing or 'getting out feelings'. I didn't hear that, just was mentioning it because when it comes to emotional release, it's something that some people do because they don't know there is a deeper level of surrender, letting go to allow feelings to express spontaneously, and/or they are afraid of that kind of uncontrolled, deeper release. All the best to you too!
@@TheSmooooth Just watched another video in which he describes just 'being with the anger', but doesn't describe what that might mean if the real energy of the real pain in the anger is connected with, in the body. So it comes across as a detached witnessing experience. That anger if fully allowed to connect, might express itself as real anger, at the age it was originally experienced as a child, or the deeper feeling the anger is a defense against, usually deep, unbearable feelings of powerlessness, in the face of abandonment, or other kinds of abuse.
@@lawrenceduff7368 Well......i also had ptsd and for me some experience are loud but most are not....and it has healed.......so i am not 100% with you about the lying down and sound proof room. for me ..once we see the drama we build into emotion the whole process calmed down.....still crying, sometimes screaming etc. but from there i was able to feel it fully without acting it out like a child would did. Well he does say when anger comes you are angry and the world is an angry place etc. but he is not for the way like you did it. i have seen people come from a place like yours (which is very effectiv) to come to a calmer place (still intense). He talks about full surrender (he calls it sure-end-der) and "the only way out is through". He says that there is a place in all of this like you did but says there are calmer ways to do it (he himself started his process in that very intense way, screaming etc.). But as we do this work, everyone i know experienced an expanding awarness and the energies then can flow through more easily (because there is more space) without letting the body going through it fully (still to some degree though). But i totally get where you are coming from....and that is a much needed messeage....maybe not under a Brown vid but under Tolles vids and all the other non-dual teachers who seem to be very congested emotionally. Best :-)
@@lawrenceduff7368 Just remembered when he said once that he has never seen more emotionally suppressed people than those who follow non-dual teachings. He talks about how hard this work is to emotionally grow up and how messy etc. Read his alchemy of the heart ....where he describes how we suppress as a child because it is too overwhelming and how that affects us in the adult life. If he would talk about detachement he would not use messy, really hard, most people do not want to feel etc. in his wording. And he continually mentions that we are not in our bodies because it is a hell in there so we stay in our head. So one part of his work (with some practices) is to get back into the body.
never have used term pincer movement ..looked it up its two forces coming together to attack another from two directions surrounding ...the enemy
I think it’s pincer movement
The doer is the us that is trying to be in control and always finding a way to feel better. Once this goes away, "dies," what is left is the you without this desire to suppress and control how you feel.
Can u explain one step how do u remove emotional pain if after talking about it in therapy it's still not gone cause the hurts are unbearable
Reg, very important question. See my comment above. I'd be happy to communicate more if you're interested. My email: lrduffsb@yahoo.com
Feel the hurt
Please remind me what goes on the list. I can't rewind!
any upset or trauma or difficulty with a person or situation.. from the past.
Is this a form of meditation ?
Can we book Michael for talks? If so how or who do one contact??
Im not sure if he is doing any more talks, you can check his website www.thepresenceprocessportal.com/
Is this talk from before or after he wrote the presence process? He doesn't mention breathing in this right ;)
This is second to second self examintion being aware and not running from our emotions or try to make our self feel comfortable.
I'm doing the Presence Process and loving it. Does anyone know where Michael Brown is these days? Or what he's doing?
Joanna Karp I'm doing the Process too. Two nos to your questions. I think he's elusive.
@@laurelharris8519 how's the process going for you? What week are you on?
Joanna Karp Day 4. I'm finding that just being aware of emotions without thinking is difficult, but I just started, and it does seem to be getting easier. He does say that it's hard. I plan to be consistent for forty days. I'll let you know when I'm finished.
He decided that he would release his books, workshops, and interviews and then simply walk his own path. He refuses to become a full time guru for anyone else than himself - he wants his material to speak for itself to those who have real ears to hear and real eyes to see. The books will find its students is his way of looking at it.
@@laurelharris8519.. How did the 40 days go?
I´m so happy to find the Presence Process. Thank you Michael for your being.
Why does he only work with three emotions, surely there are many more, resentment, guilt, hatred, etc. etc.
These are just in his approach core emotions.....this work is to be done with all of the emotions. best
Olive, in my work with self and other with emotions, I focus on these 3 emotions to help simplify. One can expand out to other emotions, but I find that anger is a protection response when one has had a vulnerable feeling that felt threatening to the survival brain, and had you go into fight/flight. The vulnerable feeling is always fear, and sometimes hurt/grief/loss. Fear can be hard to identify, but it's always there. We can't resolve anger by only focusing on and expressing our anger because it isn't the original emotion. Some people, however have been so shamed for being angry (like men shamed for softness/tears) that they need to find a way to acknowledge and vent the anger first--but not towards others. This is especially true of women, in my experience. Sorry for the long detailed response. This learning to deal with emotions in a constructive way has been a passion of mine for 35 years. I've finally gotten some clues on how to not suppress anger and how to not attack others with anger, and still resolve it. PS: I haven't listened to the video yet, but plan to.
@@billwhite5011 hello sir, I just read your comment and can't agree more. I started with reading Letting Go by Dr David Hawkins, wonderful book but it was focused on transcending alot many places and I wasn't really getting anywhere. My problem is with ANGER, and he says sit with it after sometime it'll dissipate, that's what exactly happened with me. .but that anger never went away, it dissipated for awhile but the trigger would remain . Finally I came across other sources, there's a channel called DivineTruth on TH-cam, I don't know if the people are indeed what they're claiming to be, but they talked about feeling your emotions until you complete release them-and they also focused on these three- anger, fear and grief. It was like exactly the same. I left following that channel because of unsure credibility but I couldn't take out this out of my head-about releasing the main fear and grief under the anger. I came across the presence process now and the results of ppl are amazing. This make me Soo sure that this is it!! But, I'm just so scared of starting the book even coz then I'll have to start it and I live with my parents, and am not financially independent yet, and just don't know how they'll react to my increasing emotional state. That's just keeps me stuck
@@khushboosharma1135 Thank you for your story and info, and validation. I'll look up Divine Truth. I figured out the anger (fear and grief) on my own. I sure would have liked to have known that key so many years ago. Yes, it is very tricky living with people who aren't into their own growth, particularly parents. Unless I'm destitute, I won't live with anyone who isn't into growth. Wish you well on your journey
@@khushboosharma1135 also, I just looked up Divine truth teachings. I realize I've listened to him before. I LOVE his messages. I don't really care who he thinks he is :) Thanks again for the reminder. I haven't listened to a lot of his stuff, but am going to watch his videos on anger based on what you said
Thank you very much for sharing this
Why are outer circumstances necessary to trigger inner emotional healing if we are already aware and present to the emotions we need to heal?
Good question, for me the work is difficult when i am around people because i tend to mask what i am feeling, i have difficulty allowing myself to be authentic, and often i go in my head to try to find a solution to feel better. It’s easier when i am by myself for sure, but the outside is really showing me where i abandonned my own needs because of the presence of others. Probably a lot of conditioning cuz i didn’t know how else to react back in the days.
@@gonzo8450 how are you doing now?
you do not heal emotions....there is nothing to be healed. the suppressed ones are to be accepted and fully felt. thinking they need healing is the mind wanting to be in control. that things are reflected back through outside circumstances is very useful because we hide them soo much that we need these triggers to get into contact again with these suppressed parts. hope that helps. best
TheSmooooth Well explained. Thank you, it has helped me.
@@TheSmooooth I would agree, but, see my comment above.