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Jesus: Divine, Christ or both? - Public Theology Lecture by Revd Jonathan Clatworthy
Traditional accounts of Christ, as in the Creeds, are usually based on church councils of the fourth and fifth centuries. Many Christians now find them unconvincing. Meanwhile Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and feminists are often attracted by what they know of Jesus but repelled by claims that the divinity of Christ makes Christianity the only true faith.
In this lecture Jonathan describe the new book
What Christ? Whose Christ? New Options for Old Theories.
The St Bride’s Public Theology Lecture series brings nationally renowned theologians and philosophers to Liverpool to deliver papers from the cutting edge of thought about the Divine and our world: www.stbridesliverpool.org.uk
Jonathan lived in Liverpool with his wife Marguerite for over 20 years before moving to Yorkshire to be closer to his family. He is a retired vicar, university chaplain and tutor in Theology and Ethics. His co-editor, Alan Race, is an interfaith specialist.
This lecture was co-hosted by Open Table Liverpool, a twice-monthly service for LGBTQIA+ Christians, our families & friends, & all our allies, also part of the Open Table Network: www.opentable.lgbt.
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  • @Charity-vm4bt
    @Charity-vm4bt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our Lord Jesus Christ said disciples would do more works (in quantity) if He goes because He will send the Holy Spirit. It is necessary to cite the entire verse. It is necessary to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit because it is the Son and the Holy Spirit working through people that accomplish the work!😊

  • @BobBKooenabio
    @BobBKooenabio 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Rosary is a mantra, when you reach the quiet place, then Mary has done Her job. Veronica OCDS R. I.

  • @SandyS.787
    @SandyS.787 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cannot abide so many commercial cut-ins, which SO defeat the message. Maybe I’ll come back. For now, the presentation is a disservice to Cynthia and her teaching - unless the listener can afford yet another “subscription.”

  • @Cmkrs34
    @Cmkrs34 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does she mean not emotion followed by much talk of heart and feeling

    • @christinesmith1499
      @christinesmith1499 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me, centering prayer helps me to not be not ruled by my emotions, not get so easily triggered, which has caused me much misery

  • @ramonalucas8050
    @ramonalucas8050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for posting this; love her messages and teachings. Been a great help with the inner awakening

  • @jasonpearson1555
    @jasonpearson1555 ปีที่แล้ว

    a lot of ads for content that is not your own

  • @ChrisJ294
    @ChrisJ294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clergy don't get free cars. Clergy don't keep their home on retirement. And why would you want competition between clergy? Not everything has to be a rat race.

  • @tomgeorgearts
    @tomgeorgearts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my experience, Buddhists accept that thoughts will naturally come into the mind during meditation and resisting them only adds energy to the thought-forms. There is no difference there, despite what she says.

  • @wendytaylor4368
    @wendytaylor4368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Letting go! Non attachment not grasping, clinging, and entitlement TROUBLE. NO BRACING OR CLINGING.

  • @wendytaylor4368
    @wendytaylor4368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a great lesson on kenosis Phil. 6

  • @wendytaylor4368
    @wendytaylor4368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really listen to Cynthia’s gifts #1 and #2….theologically and neurologically! Imagine, open, take time to return to God. Self kenos is Phil. 2:5

  • @janetdacombe5756
    @janetdacombe5756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this talk x

  • @tdddyc
    @tdddyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grandad ❤

  • @notredamedeimmaculeeecoule6565
    @notredamedeimmaculeeecoule6565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    re.cola.laaaaa. you know she owns some laterhoezens, tho. <3

  • @susanwoods7242
    @susanwoods7242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am what I am ok true but rapture is coming Jesus for his bride will you be going as you are?? Big question I think born again Christians are so.....new creation?? Not if you are what you are???? Sorry

  • @esetamorgan7978
    @esetamorgan7978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    God loves all people who love Him and keeps His commandments.

  • @anxiousbeachbums
    @anxiousbeachbums 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe I know the "state" that you're discussing. It can't be "practiced and conquered" purely via our "earthly talents" and efforts (I flash over to monks in monasteries who may spend a lifetime seeking this experience but may fail to realize it isn't purely gained by reading volumes, attending rituals, sacrificial acts,, etc., etc.. I believe we can prepare the moment and prepare our minds the gift of the moment/experience comes solely by God's grace. As I believe you've said..........that moment of grace may be as brief as a flash of light or the chirp of a bird but it is recognizable/distinguishable as a whole different level of "being". By continually committing ourselves to emptying and surrendering our minds and bodies we are more prepared to accept that "presence" in a manner that seems to arrive easier and prolong its presence, allowing greater fellowship with Spirit. Sometimes I wonder if this experience is merely a chemical release on the part of some gland at the base of my brain as the joy of the moment is beyond description and I feel that if I didn't raise my hands in praise to God, "these very walls would cry out."

  • @felixguerrero6062
    @felixguerrero6062 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The CoE has failed to preach the Gospel, it didnt drift away from society it became indistinguishable from it.

  • @CNZ-ei1uo
    @CNZ-ei1uo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The concept of the church itself as the incarnation of the resurrected and living Christ is an early church idea. Let's go with it.

  • @davidc.2878
    @davidc.2878 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meditation begins at 11:05. Thank you for this, Mr. Bennett.

  • @phoenixkennedy5927
    @phoenixkennedy5927 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pns p. 189 “bliss awaits those who can possibly make it through the tragedy of what has happened to Christ in the Church.” Ws p. 64 “As I now see it Christianity has perpetuated a shortsighted view of Christ and, consequently, a shortsighted view of the rest of us. Christ’s passage was the revelation of the passage of every human being, and any misreading of him is a misreading of the whole of humanity. Investigating Christ’s human experiences in terms of consciousness or self opens up a whole new dimension of his Truth and revelation, and not only his, but our own and that of the whole of creation.” Rc p. 282 “The mind can find no definitive satisfaction or fulfillment with mere concepts and hearsay. What man is seeking is the living experiential reality of the Truth, his own immediate experience of this truth. Until he does, he will go right on questioning and being dissatisfied. Even if man knew the truth, he could never be fulfilled by merely ‘believing’ it. He is only fulfilled by experientially living it - knowing it firsthand.” Ws p. 107 “To say that Christ’s self or consciousness was eternal gives an entirely different picture and meaning to Christ than if we say his self or consciousness was not eternal…I think the West will come upon its own set of problems when it faces the impermanence of Christ’s self or consciousness, but, at the same time, this will reveal an entirely new dimension of Christ’s revelation - of this I am certain.” Ws p. 156 “But who can understand death and resurrection coming after a life of union and oneness with God? Who can understand the true nature of this death and what the resurrection reveals of Christ’s divine nature? Because of this mystery I regard Christianity as the most difficult and mystical of all religions; Christ is the most unbelievable and unknown Truth there is - and the most difficult of all Truths.” Rc p. 78 “Sometimes the impression is given that Christianity has a monopoly on forgiveness, salvation, savior, eternal life, God’s Spirit, grace, and so on, when, in fact, Christianity took all this straight from Judaism! The revelation of ‘Christ’ had nothing to do with any of this and changed none of it.” Rc p. 83 “Basically, there is no such thing as ‘Christian mysticism’ because Christianity - transformation into Christ - is the essence of mysticism.” Rc p. 140 “To think the anthropomorphic biblical interpretation of God ‘generating’ or ‘begetting’ an Uncreated ‘Son’ could have justified a transition in the Church’s whole understanding of the Trinity and Christ, can only be put down as the most flagrant wrong turn in the entire history of Christianity.” Rc p. 144 “There has to be God (Logos) before there is any incarnation of the Logos - before there is any Christ and before there is the created man Jesus. No question, the Creed must be totally restated, Christians today are not the semi-polytheists of yesterday.” Rc p. 157 “To my knowledge, however, the Greeks never agreed hypostasis meant persona - and indeed it does not. In time, however, in the West at least, hypostasis and person were used as synonymous terms. So due to this error, there occurred another switch from the original hypostasis to person - a monumental wrong turn as regards a true understanding of the Trinity and Christ.” Rc p. 170 “Like the fathers, Christians would be horrified to think they were polytheists or believed in three gods. But this is why the Trinity is kept at a distance, declared a ‘mystery’ incapable of the human mind to grasp. This is also why the Trinity means relatively nothing to the average Christian and plays no part in his spiritual life.” Rc p. 201 “Sometimes we wonder how Western civilization ever became so self-oriented compared to other civilizations that were more oriented to the benefit of everyone over their individual selves. Well, who invented the individual and particular ‘person’ or self, and who gave it ontological priority over everyman’s common human nature? Christianity!” Rc p. 242 “What few people realize, however, is that the official Church or Christian language is totally premised on this use of idioms instead of on the truth of Christ.” Rc p. 248 “No question, the C of P is the most deceiving ruse in all of Christian history a ruse responsible for totally wrong views of Christ, the Trinity and the man Jesus.” Rc p. 249 “Yet the more divine one makes the Logos’ human nature, the more Christ fades from the picture and the more Christianity deteriorates to a Jesus-cult.” Rc p. 257 “But who knows what people think they are praying to or worshiping? We can probably say for certain they are not praying to the dual natures of Christ!” Rc p. 279 “Eliminate the term ‘person’, and how is Christ to be envisioned as a single being? Without theology’s absolute dependence on person as an individual being, its Christologies would go down like a row of dominoes.” Rc p. 291 “this is exactly what the Incarnation is telling us: not only is mankind not that bad, but rather, it is of greatest worth to God.” Rc p. 300 “Even the best of theologians are reluctant to admit any radical existential change in human nature - much less an ontological change. Instead, they assure us everyone will go on just the same - only better, of course.” Rc p. 318 “The day Christianity lost this understanding of deification as the way man is saved, is the day it lost Christ.” Rc p. 323 “That down the road, Christianity was turned into the narrow, naïve and childish view we have today - i.e., only the man Jesus is Christ, only Jesus could ever be eternally one with God - is the inevitable loss of the whole revelation of the Incarnation, and, consequently, of Christ and Christianity…Christianity’s exclusive, boxed-in view of Jesus and Christ, not only aborts man’s spiritual journey, but will be its own undoing - why? Simply because it is not the Truth of ‘Christ’.” Rc p. 335 “To say Christian theology is ‘complicated’ is the understatement of all time. It is an unadulterated mess. It so defies common logic as to require man to forfeit his intellectual integrity in order to ‘believe’.” Rc p. 465 “What is unfortunate, however, is those who write the history of the early development of Christian thought and doctrine, consistently rely on the present-day Aristotelian rendition of it. It could be said this is a deliberate attempt to eliminate any possible ‘Platonic’ understanding of Christ as a universal in order to make Christ solely one particular man - Jesus, of course.” Rc p. 486 “Loss of self is the very foundation of Christianity.” Ecc p. 82 “The primary purpose of my writing, however, was less the subject of no-self than to put into the field of Mystical Theology a whole stage of the spiritual journey presently missing.” www.bernadetterobertsisnotmyguru.com

  • @SpiritDwellSacred
    @SpiritDwellSacred 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am hopeful I can make the time change. I have grown so appreciative of these services during the pandemic. Will the zoom be recorded?

  • @Treviscoe
    @Treviscoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I get about the Centering Prayer is that acts to stymie the ego; it cuts off the ego's claim that it knows what it's doing and is in control of life.

  • @jwa-globalmarkettrading7678
    @jwa-globalmarkettrading7678 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talk to me, not humans

  • @SpiritDwellSacred
    @SpiritDwellSacred 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this daily beginning of the day. It anchors me.

  • @nickmendes5458
    @nickmendes5458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry I missed you live - usually get a reminder but didn't today. I've always thought the Paul / Barnabas thing very interesting and significant.

  • @SpiritDwellSacred
    @SpiritDwellSacred 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this beautiful gift of meditation and reflection.

  • @rosaheartlily
    @rosaheartlily 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Lilly!

  • @billgrimke-drayton2858
    @billgrimke-drayton2858 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please pray for Nick, who has terminal cancer? He and his wife had a son, who died from cancer last Christmas.

  • @billgrimke-drayton2858
    @billgrimke-drayton2858 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    feeling the darkness!

  • @debswilliams4858
    @debswilliams4858 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is so beautiful Lilly, thank you. What an encouraging and inspiring task to leave us with as well

  • @SCMBritain
    @SCMBritain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is WONDERFUL. Thank you Lilly!

  • @anderz64
    @anderz64 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wonder if the Polyvagal-theory developed by Dr. Stephen Porges is relevant to this talk. Particularly the «shut-down» aspect of the theory. Contemplation might be the solution to the trauma after a «shut down».

    • @SuzieWolferLCSW
      @SuzieWolferLCSW 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anders Yes,! I’m a long term student of poly vagal theory and Somatic Experiencing® therapy and find a delightful overlap. Just reading Helminki’s Living Presence which is even more explicit

  • @highwaysandbywaysluke
    @highwaysandbywaysluke 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you seen what happens when the ice melts? th-cam.com/video/JIpYAgh6EBI/w-d-xo.html Extinction Rebellion Vs Gods way of Salvation th-cam.com/video/T--ufvHXENg/w-d-xo.html

  • @gayambassador
    @gayambassador 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fear I'm not very good at posting to groups and sharing my story but I'm just starting to be able to feel a bit more free in sharing some elements of it. Been a long slow process. I promised you I some years back I would put my story up on Freedom2b and I still haven't done that as sitting and writing even a short section can be so very difficult. I shall fulfil that promise one day though Anthony. Warren Hartley 15.03.2011

  • @IUCrFO
    @IUCrFO 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this! Thanks Linda! After speaking to you I managed to get something in The Church Times regarding my request for The Church of England and Church of Wales to review their churchyard rules and regulations!xx Jan Dacombexx

  • @positivecatholics6642
    @positivecatholics6642 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautifully told and engaging - wonderfully illustrating the power of story sharing. Thanks Cate. Vincent

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    @AuthorEllenbogen 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you want to help and bring change to dementia? It could be you one day. Please help! michaelellenbogenmovement.com/