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No, male Guardian readers are weak little boys. OK, we bought the Marbles, so then they can buy them back. Starting bids at £5billion?

Correction - as a wokeist

Permanent tenure for academics, the judiciary etc., is a convenient cover for these individuals to avoid accountability

Excellent

A typical IMPERIALIST reasoning....Thieves...

We definitely need some subtitles here, better ones than 'close captioning' can provide. ....I don't mean just the difficulty understand Mr. Trabucco della Torretta's thick accented English, I'd like to know the Latin spellings of the names of the two Greeks he mentioned, here 04:05 and here 04:16 .

What do you call a liberal who roams in packs and has grown fangs?

This is actually the best thing Dominic could do - share the actual fabric of our government

Very interesting

Now we know why Dom appeared to be miffed at the time.; frustration with Whitehall's indolence.

LOL😂 DOMINIC COMMINGS TAKING THE PISS 😂😂😂 LOLOL

I'm sorry but I cannot listen to this - the first 5mins is enough. One of the worst anti-semitic massacres took place in York England in 1190. Blood Libel, the Jews accused of killing children, began in Norwich England in 1144. The Dominican order placed among the Jews at Oxford long before the Jewish expulsion, to harass them, and get them to convert to christianity. The Jews expelled from England by Edward I in 1290. The first Crusade (1096 - 1099), and the mob that followed behind them, massacred Jews on their way to the Holy Land. Hitler was a monster, yes, but who or what created him? and why was Germany and its empire chosen, as the slaughter house? Why were books burned in medieval Europe? Why was the brilliant progression of German culture cut short in 1933, books burned in Berlin, Art condemned as degenerate, and the Bauhaus shut down. Why was the best and most advanced of German technology, culture, and the rest, destroyed or usurped by greater forces? Perhaps you touched on some of this in your lecture. But I am tired of all this German bashing, and Germany being treaded as usual, as the scapegoat - when the elephant in the room - is never mentioned. The victors always write the narrative, the history, as they say. Sad.

Given how well organised Islamist groups are it wouldn’t surprise me if they end up becoming the deep state.

We must remember just how many foreign students arrive in many universities who would prefer not to struggle with these issues and to please their Minders, and these students bring in the biggest fees. Administrators need to protect these students from challenge above all and maintain the incoming University cashflow..

Genesis 8:21 applies to ALL human beings.

Cummings has a much better understanding of what is actually going in government than all the idiot talking heads in media

Greece wasn’t even a country when Lord Elgin took them. It was ruled by the Ottoman Empire and the Ottoman Empire sanctioned the removal of the marble statues. Neither the Ottomans nor the local Greek population looked after it even cared for the Parthenon - it had been partially blown up by being used as a store for munitions and a Christian church had been built inside it. The process of removing the statues took days and needed scaffolding, so if the authorities didn’t give their permission how come they didn’t intervene to stop the removal - they had the opportunity.

bit like how cultural marxists conquered western universities in recent decades. just as we denazified postwar germany we'll have to demarxify academia

Shame and honor have been effectively used to control the masses with or without any dictatorial / authoritarian mandate.

Sir Niall seems a bit of a drama queen (or is this not politically correct to say?) -- even if he has some very valid points. I am not sure Nazi Germany is apt. The pendulum seems to be swinging back to a saner place -- but I am not sure this is what the speaker really wants. It wouldn't further his cause. Can we please all calm down?

Isn't it ironic that although Greece has half the marbles, the only place a Greek can study marbles for free is in the British Museum while English children are the only Europeans who have to pay in Greece? What's more, their museum isn't even next to the Parthenon.

An eye opening interview. I could listen to Dominic talk all day long.

Hes probablly tellling the truth and giving an accurate account of life behind the wire. I very much doubt though if he was still getting the drip would he be raising the alarm

As the Leftist antiwhite antisemitic antichristian racists now have..

The ironic thing is, had the marbles not ended up in the BM, nobody would have put any value on them or perhaps they may not have existed at all today, and that is true of some other artifacts in the museum too. But as we know truth does not matter anymore and it's all about tearing down the old world and values and making way for whatever is coming next- probably something sinister. I think now they should go back , along with all the other stuff everyone is making a claim against, the British taxpayer has cared for this stuff (and made it available for free to anyone who wanted to view or study),for too long now. Wherever this stuff goes it will be a novelty for a while and then probably end up in some billionaire's private study room..

Some truth in what he says. But I feel like he holds a grudge because some civil servants had him in trouble and would have liked it if he could go unpunished for some of his behavior.

Liberals are not liberal anymore. Used to call me classic liberal, now I call me a conservative.

What he said about the government meeting being scripted makes me sick. Stupid system

Elgin was a burglar, a snobbish scam who disgracefully removed this iconic treasure aggressively with shaws and took his loot in boats.. Some of it was sank and lost forever and the rest was used to decorate his vila.. As a proper scam he lost his wealth in gambling and then sold his loot to British Museum. BM as a proper colonial institution received the loot and created a propanda that people don't beleive in any more. Elgin the scam who the Brits call a Lord 😂, did not save the Parthenon marbles. He robbed it and there was no one to stop him. There is no document and no other evidence that the marbles were legally removed from the Parthenon temple. That is part of the propaganda. Everyone laughs with they way BM and some uneducated Brits including politicians deal with this sameful story. Once somebody told me it is a matter of imperiliasm 😂. I wonder how many of these dicks have visitied the BM and if they ever went to Athens to see where the Western civilisation and democracy started. I m sure many of them have been to Malia and Faliraki partying and drinking continuing the legacy of Lord Elgin, the marble seviour 😂.

Lord Sumption may be barrister and former senior judge but he doesn't know how to judge the parthenon marble debate which is to do the right thing and return them

They are not Elgin marbles they are Parthenon marbles stop confusing greek history as it is

As i mentioned before 8 million artefacts hidden in vaults and 1% are on display in the BM . BM Don't need the parthenon marbles. Greece can display them in the Acropolis museum they are a national icon of Greece

They have been here for 200 years thats long enough for people to have seen them in the British museum, why not send them back and as Greece has said they would send other artifacts to display in the British museum that have never been on show in Britain before .Thats sounds like the way to go. If we dont accept this offer it shows what the British museum want. To keep the marbles .After all why would the British museum want to deny the public the chanc to see new artifacts ?

It's likely he had to sign the offical secrets act. He knows that it was all a tyranical power grab by the so called elites.

Great to listen to some experts on the topic.

Your title is wrong. The assets of the world's symbol of democracy and civilisation cannot be named after a thief. Who gives a s**t about museums that made their fame on stolen items after being vandalised.

When the Greeks let the savage Muslims subdue them, which led to the ruination of the Parthenon, they lost their right as caretakers of a world heritage.

One day, the Brits will need the help of Greece, and the Greeks should laugh at them. But they won't. They will do the right thing, as they always do.

The Parthenon was in that shape because the Turks stored munitions in it, and they exploded. It was whole up to that point.

Nigel Your 100% right greeks never had the chance to look after them and I agree they should be returned

Looked after well what about the 1930s wire brush scandal leaks in the BM stealing artefacks being sold online eBay I don't think so

So many artefacts are locked up in vaults not on display only 1 % are on display in the BM and losing the marbles will destroy the museum you must be goking

LOL. We'd have to weigh the argument more and fact check to conclude, but don't have a heavy leaning either way on this issue yet, but seriously! That tone of voice and fussy diction! This speaker on the video strikes us a movie parody caricature of a clueless pompous ass twit. Is that really the best person to give this side of the argument you could come up with? We half expected him to start Rrrrroling his r's at some point. Very off-putting! Not going to weigh in on the merits of the arguments for either side, but only point out we laughed out loud starting to listen to him-- this particular messenger on the video does your argument no good!

If greece wants the Elgin marbles back they should pay the full value plus the costs of transportation, preservation and security that have been incurred since Elgin saved them. Can't believe there are so many spineless morons commenting here that Britain should just hand them over for nothing. Labour supporters no doubt.

NO THEY SHOULD STAY WHERE THEY ARE. Elgin suffered a lot to get them over, including years of imprisonment and a delayed shipment. He had permission to excavate. GREECE SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT ANOTHER COUNTRY VALUES THEIR ANCIENT ARTEFACTS and cannot prove illegality. What next? The Rosetta stone?

Excellent speech by Catherine Titi she summoned up very well

Don't put London's interest first it's a matter of doing the right thing

Another thing I like to add where was the birth place of democracy Greece who built the parthenon Greece Greece was occupied nation at the time turkey didn't own Greece so no more excuses

Sorry lord Sumption London has a moral duty to return the marbles back to Greece there is no legal argument for the refusal to return the marbles they were stolen lord Elgin admitted this in a letter to the prime minister in 1811 also they should be returned close to the parthenon temple so visitors and tourists can see them together in the country where they belong and not spit in 2 countries it's common sense.

Sorry Dominic the parthenon marbles belong to Greece they are I important monument and identity of Greece lord Elgin admiited that he stole them under the laws of that time so no more excuses why they should remain in London