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@@pedroduarte96 I think they got it right personally, their early game is meant to be a bit weak to make up for their stronger late game, Imladris has a similar situation done a bit better with focussing on only elite expensive troops that you need to take more and not keep spending resources

@@Naodline2627 well yes, but should the early game of Isengard be worse than Rohan? It is not fitting... That would be a simple fix, actually. Just make the Dunland camp work like a Rohan farm, resources and spam. Problem solved

@pedroduarte96 tbf the wildmen giving resources from attacking settlements can net you more than a farm especially with the outpost upgrade

@ I guess if the AI used that effectively, it could work... But i really think their main issue is unit quantity, especially spears. even the basic infantry is "elite" xD

@pedroduarte96 you do have wildmen spears with wulfgar for early anti-large

@@viktor1337w I prefer Edain as well, so much replayability with how each map is different

@@Naodline2627 i used the all in one laucher to switch easly

@@__Smallvlle yes this is fun to play, I purposely chose a map that would either be a challenge or be an easy one route map and got the easy route to test out the new Isengard

@@mibri1598 thanks mate, I would say if you lose an entire army of dunlandings start saving up and getting upgrades and prepare to bring the uruk hai to the field while still fielding wildmen as a way to distract the enemy with cheap units. As for strength they would be somewhere in the middle now, they can play strong but the early game is still their weakest point and if they cannot claim a settlement for wildmen recruitment they can fall behind

@@Al_Kabana could be a few reasons why that is happening, if you crash before the game even begins you need to check the %appdata% files and make sure you have a maps folder and options file with gameplay settings. Another thing could be if you didnt run the installer as administrator it could have stopped a few files going through, best way to solve that is to uninstall everything and install it all again. Also you need to make sure your rotwk patch is 2.01 any other patch is not supported by edain

@@Naodline2627 Thanks for the quick response! I just checked i have the maps folder and options.ini file in my LotR,RotWk-files folder and the 2.01 patch installed aswell. I might need to add i have Win11Home as my OS if i recall correctly there was an issue aswell don't remember what it was.

@Al_Kabana ah ok, not sure about windows 11 myself if there are any issues regarding that. Another solution is use the all in one installer instead saves you needing to go through all of these steps

@@Naodline2627 Well, I have reinstalled everything: Base game + RotWk, 2.01 Patch (run as Admin), reinstalled edain 4.8 (run as admin) and deleted the Maps folder aswell as the options file and recreated it with the edain mod switcher fix. Now the game "starts" and shows the initial loading screen and just stops nothing happens after wards. I'll try the all in one launcher now and just hope it helps...

IT RUNNS!!! YESSSSSS

@@manwithapointystick3871 I am a big fan of the wildmen additions, as for the lack of orc and uruk troop additions there isnt really anything else they could add and they are already strong given enough time to build up making for a much more stable gameplay experience

@Naodline2627 yeah, I agree on the fact that with proper uruk troops the basic troop roles were already covered, I meant as expanding the early troop roster, like dividing uruk scouts in melee and ranged units, or add some sort of orc fodder/ranged Warg riders, or even make Orthanc guards some sort of elite uruks instead of humans. That said, these are just small details, but mechanically speaking they did a great job in revamping the faction as it is

Im not convinced they are overall easier, every faction has strengths and weaknesses for every map they play on and MM is the biggest example of that if they cannot build goblin town and gundabad or find an outpost they become much easier to beat simply by the situation they are in

@@marvinord6009 I have played Isengard, there is a video coming out tomorrow where I show off the wild side of them. For isengard late game if you have units that deal bonus damage to units with armour they will be valuable, also any magic or monsters can be strong against the uruk waves, but if they play isen well the best thing you can do is pray haha

@@sharymens8187 there is a large area on the map that sometimes is submerged in water and you cannot reach the settlements that are there, compare this video to the video I released yesterday and you will see the difference in the map

@@mibri1598 thanks mate, I would say Gondor is still the strongest, Ive tried a 2v4 and got destroyed because my ai ally did very little to counter what they did, a 2v3 I think would be possible with the right allies

@@Naodline2627 Me and a friend of mine were abe to defed 2 brutal AI in a 2vs2 but only because I had a lony gondor soilder that couldn't get any damage - didn't know how I created him but the AI was often try to kill and we could stop the steam roler lol ^^ Which Melee units you would recommend as Gondor - I often struggle to beat other melee units with my pikemen and normald soldiers....

@mibri1598 your best early game troops for Gondor are Lamadon swordsmen, they come from the signal fire and deal bonus damage to units without armour

@@Naodline2627 Thank you ! I've forgot to ask: Do you know if the 2.02 delayfix works with the edain mod and does it actually help when playing with big troups?

Thanks for letting me know I will have to observe if I see these habits when playing against Gondor mordor and MM

Have to say if you going for a 2vs2vs2vs2 and Misty Moutins is part of they quite fast with building Mountain Giants ^^

@mibri1598 oh yeah Ive seen how little time it takes for them to get a single outpost and watch the chaos begin haha

@@valentynknyaziev3524 to play as a Gondor subfaction you need to play on a map as gondor that has the keywords in the title, either Arnor to play arnor, or Belfalas to play as belfalas

@Naodline2627 thanks for the reply. Are there any other subfactions or is that all there is in the mod?

@valentynknyaziev3524 Gondor is the only faction that has other factions they can become on certain maps, the dwarves have 3 sub factions, you can choose at the start of the game to play erebor, iron hills or ered luin

@Naodline2627 got it. Thanks tried them out. I know that this might not be the place but you have played a lot of edain and probably faced the issue of game running out of memory and crashing. I tried all the fixes I could find including the 4gb patch. I have never seen you crash in game though so I was wondering if you have some insight. Thanks.

@valentynknyaziev3524 I actually had an in game crash while making Wednesday's video, I have had some others in the past but they dont happen often. It used to be while playing the 3rd skirmish game around 20 minutes in it would crash but that was a few years ago. As long as the crashes dont happen regularly the occasional crash has never caused me any problems

@@predator4041 4.8 does have its own independent launcher you can install if you uninstall any earlier versions or you can use the all in one launcher

@@mibri1598 thanks mate, I can give you some useful tips for playing against Imladris though not sure how useful they will be in a PvP scenario. Imladris has a slower start than most and will often start researching in the library the second they have the resources to increase their resource production, get their better units and upgrades. If you can force them to bunker down in their base and limit their momentum it can give you more freedom to build up your strength and attack. Ranged units are very strong against imladris elves as well because if their small unit sizes every arrow shot is more likely to take down one entity which is the average equivalent of 3 normal soldiers in a battalion, which is why healing abilities are also very important for imladris, taking out the wandering company troops and focus firing at one unit increases the likelihood that healing abilities will gain less value and can turn the tide. If they tend to use cavalry go for pikemen and keep them near your archers. Dont make cavalry to attack the elves unless you know they have no pikemen of their own since their revenge damage can take out all but the strongest heroes in one charge. And if you get to the late game use destructive powers when a big fight begins, its one of the only viable ways to defeat a fully upgraded army of imladris elves

@ Thank you for that advice Besides lorien - which fraction would you recommend ?

@mibri1598 Angmar has some strong tools againg imladris, Rohan can rush them down with peasants or cav, and erebor dwarves if you dont need to worry much about cav

@ Thank you so much !

@@NewAge374 I hope so too, it will be interesting what they come up with next

@@Sweeney732 it is a great amount of content and it is all great

@@Boswell7717 thanks mate

@@viktor1337w nice well done

@@TheShieldery thanks mate, on the skirmish page you can adjust the starting resources by going into the settings near the top left of the page (its where you can also adjust the game mode, toggle custom heroes and ring heroes), also with assistance in times of need, you need to specifically press the little signal fire next to the main building (the part that burns when you summon troops)

@@G36Sperrfeuer an interesting concept but not one I can accomplish without rigorous testing waiting for a power to be used to then use a different power, also Ive found as a general rule while playing bfme it is better to not try and use a tier 4 power against another tier 4 power as many have different purposes, and it is worth escaping from the danger or sacrifice something instead

@@jmvbyo wish I had more time to make more content, glad to hear youve been enjoying the last 4 years of content

@@Naodline2627edain mods only mod I really like, your videos are ace

@@somtowyer3221 I dont think they have, the ai can act differently depending on the map, if they cant get early settlements and outposts you will notice them perform less effectively, try against a Misty mountains ai on a big map if you want a challenge

@@necro5627 its all good been enjoying it so far, perfect timing as well for the new year

@@mibri1598 thanks mate, if you struggle to assault a base with lorien I recommend getting an entmoot, having ents is your best sieging option

@ thx mate - I was only wondering Cause with the draws I Never needed any siege - the „normal“ Units Where enough. Are the Units of lorien just weaker and would you say that imladris is better for that Style of Play Cause I barley use Siege Units Thanks in Advance🙏

@mibri1598 Lothlorien does have a steep learning curve, unlike other factions like dwarves that are known for being tanky and hard hitting, Lothlorien elves exchange some of their base stats for extra movement and natural stealth which also includes an active use damage boost while in trees and hiding. There are a few tricks to making the most out of lorien and the best way to learn is through experience

You need to use the spell directly on the little signal fire, it will then get a visual upgrade then any troops you summon will get upgrades

@@Naodline2627 Thanks now it works. However I know just randomly clicked everywhere on the building until it worked :D

@@benbelker he is in the custom create a hero menu

@@angrybarney196 oh yeah I saw that, thought it was only for freebuild but its good that they give the more powerful orcs more chances to exist

And the Nazgul Riders don't break speakers when they die

@Falconci thats the best thing I'll hear all day

@@anichan4917 there are alot of fun things to do in multiplayer

@@Naodline2627 Yep ! Do you know how you toggle freebuild tho ?

@anichan4917 yes, in the setting where you adjust resources you can also change the game mode from regular skirmish to free build

@@Naodline2627 Right thanks it worked ! Let's gooo

@@timkiesewetter2049 thanks mate, I have been thinking about doing a video about keybinds, I'll get things prepped for it

@@happywheeler4268 I probably wont unless I have 4k in the bank spare, I always gravitate toward everything else first, even when playing Belfalas

@@manwithapointystick3871 thanks for reminding me, I always forget about which upgrade gives what, I just click them and carry on elsewhere haha

@@marvinamann4969 I dont think Isengard got made weaker in the early game, they now have a new outpost that if protected in the early game can offer big value when playing dunlandings

@@Naodline2627 what you said about the upgrades on the Dunlending outpost, they are in fact supposed to stack. So you could try to get three outposts and get a triple mapwide buff

@NewAge374 ah ok I will have to give it a go

@@Sweeney732 thanks mate, gonna enjoy going through all the new features included, got a video on Wednesday on one of the new maps

@@burninghalls honestly its been so long since I played this mod I cannot remember haha

@@tobiashagstrom4168 interesting, you learn something new everyday

@@angrybarney196 yeah aotr has brilliant design and concepts but the freebuild on top of insane levels of spam and aggressive playstyle that reduces every game to a game of tower defence

@@RaffaelWindgassen the ai's instant use of powers at the perfect time is what keeps them going

@@Naodline2627 But this one is just so annoying. It's not even very devastating, just very annoying. Just because it lasts for so long and all u can do is avoid it with ur troops and wait til it's finally over

@RaffaelWindgassen yeah I do understand, if they changed it to a single predictable volley like murin and drars final abilities that would do wonders for me

Yeah its hard to not place the Lord of the Rings at the top spot for ring hero