I commented on this video two (2) years ago and I am surprised to see that I haven’t got even one (1) thumbs up 👍 or thumbs down 👎 and most sadly not one (1) comment, it is truly sad because this genre of video is a huge part of my career and life, and seeing that people are just not watching 👀 these historical films makes me wonder why not?, the only conclusion that I can come to is that the current generations are not motivated to watch them because they don’t care about their own military history and are not bothered about whether we have a military or not, and knowing the state of recruitment and retention in all of our armed forces I have to wonder if that is partly due to the ambivalence shown by successive governments towards maintaining and furthering the military ability to defend our country and others, it seems that we have suddenly become invisible to the world and therefore don’t need a highly professional, well trained and well equipped armed forces, let alone a military that is fairly paid for their dedication and sacrifice, living standards are well below par, and the support of the civilian population is at a very low ebb. Perhaps I am looking at the state of our military in relation to my own service and I don’t like what I see and rightly or wrongly I believe that without a huge increase in military spending and improvements in the living standards of our personnel then someone should just turn out the lights, lock the gates and put a sign 🪧 up saying “gone out of business” because we, the veterans and current personnel, can see that we are probably “combat ineffective” even “combat unable”, and considering the huge longevity and history we have in our military services that is a DISGRACE.
Being ex RAF 38gp TCW I dont comment on politics or the vid but a quarter of a million viewers came as a suprise but I dont put anything about how bad the military in the UK is and gets worse when we get a Labour government in. Being nearly 70 Ive seen the damage everytime they get in so it doesnt change it just gets worse. So if you want to vent your feelings there are a lot of groups on Facebook that share our views. Me I just posted a video.
Love watching this bombing over my old village. I might actually have seen this flying over in 71. and they are still flying over there in 2024 but i could not see them this summer but could hear them at 30,000 ft or more.
I’m glad the RAF and workplace isn’t like this anymore. I wouldn’t berate someone for now reporting a leak on time? Maybe a talking to but that’s it!? 😮
I would have some aerial photographers want pics of of factories and fields. They would show me a google earth pic and i would find it by trying not to use the map.
I remember being shown this film whilst at RAF Halton as an apprentice sometime between '75 and '78. I didn't know it was now in the public domain but it definitely brings back memories....
@@bac1111967 no pilot ever has a pen on him/her when they go to sign for the aircraft. Personally I get asked this every single time by the engineering lineys.
Phantastic video of a phabulous aircraft. And a great look back at the RAF we had in the 70’s and 80’s - a far cry from the much reduced RAF we have today. I will always remember seeing my first Phantoms whilst on holiday in North Wales near Ruthin in the mid-70’s. We were walking along a ridge line near a golf course, when there was this tremendous sound and the earth shook as a flight of four overflew us, climbing out of the valley below. I distinctly recall the lightning flash on the noses, so I learned in later life that these were from 111 Squadron. Superb machines.
Thanks for uploading this video. As a civilian I found it very interesting. Its a very tight and well made film and I appreciate the procedural, behavioural and technical elements that it covered. It has also generated some fine comments. Much respect.
At 08:09 appears a German Luftwaffe NCO with badges from Aufklärungsgeschwader 51 'Immelmann' and can later be seen working alongside his R.A.F. comrade on the wing bolt. The Bremgarten-based Geschwader was introducing the RF4-E early inthe 1970ies. So maybe he had been on a familiarization exchange while this was filmed.
On detachment to foreign bases, badges, patches & rank slides were swapped all the time. Those were just trophies bring worn by the raf guy & mean nothing much.
@@wirdy1 You may be right regarding squadron exchanges etc., and one of the F-4s is even carrying the owl badge of AG 51 "I" next to the R.A.F. markings. The NCO I was referring to however, is definitely wearing German Luftwaffe rank insignia on his overall.
Had the Ark been kept on, there would have been no Falklands War, the costs of which would have paid for 10 modern replacements, plus one extra carrier every 8 years since 1982.
I was a docs controller on a busy Jaguar line. When I started, I was asked to conform to the Unit's traditional practice of clearing Fs700, to release aircraft as fit to fly, based purely on "We've sorted it" phone calls from Rects teams in the 2nd Line hangar, some distance away. I told them 'no way,' putting me at odds with the Line Flight Sergeant and J Eng O, who both tried to browbeat me. I wouldn't budge. Eventually, I had a 1:1 with the S Eng O, who tried more subtle but inneffective persuasion, including a 3-week move to the hangar to work with the Rects team. Following that, he was NOT amused when I told him, "STILL no way, SIR." Mercifully, I was posted soon afterwards, when my random Gen App request, (one submitted each Monday fortnight, to ensure the previous one was being processed), bore fruit, and I got away. I learned life ain't always easy for a pedantic tw@t, but sometimes it's necessary.... 🤔
Not surprising things went tits--up: you've got a load of actors trying to run things. Trevor Eve with a suspiciously non-regulation haircut & Michael Sheard pre-Grange Hill (plus, other familiar faces).
In my own view......THE most beautiful aircraft of it's era (and type). When I was a kid I spent a week with the Air Cadets at RAF Wattisham (74 Squadron), and RAF Wildenrath (can't remember what Sqn, but it was another Air Defence Phantom Squadron. Absolutely amazing to get up close to these beautiful beasts of the Cold War! Great shame when they were retired!
04:17 "They must have removed the bridge, it wasn there".... 5:55: "Like this house", that mansion/castle is categorised as a HOUSE?!
I commented on this video two (2) years ago and I am surprised to see that I haven’t got even one (1) thumbs up 👍 or thumbs down 👎 and most sadly not one (1) comment, it is truly sad because this genre of video is a huge part of my career and life, and seeing that people are just not watching 👀 these historical films makes me wonder why not?, the only conclusion that I can come to is that the current generations are not motivated to watch them because they don’t care about their own military history and are not bothered about whether we have a military or not, and knowing the state of recruitment and retention in all of our armed forces I have to wonder if that is partly due to the ambivalence shown by successive governments towards maintaining and furthering the military ability to defend our country and others, it seems that we have suddenly become invisible to the world and therefore don’t need a highly professional, well trained and well equipped armed forces, let alone a military that is fairly paid for their dedication and sacrifice, living standards are well below par, and the support of the civilian population is at a very low ebb. Perhaps I am looking at the state of our military in relation to my own service and I don’t like what I see and rightly or wrongly I believe that without a huge increase in military spending and improvements in the living standards of our personnel then someone should just turn out the lights, lock the gates and put a sign 🪧 up saying “gone out of business” because we, the veterans and current personnel, can see that we are probably “combat ineffective” even “combat unable”, and considering the huge longevity and history we have in our military services that is a DISGRACE.
Being ex RAF 38gp TCW I dont comment on politics or the vid but a quarter of a million viewers came as a suprise but I dont put anything about how bad the military in the UK is and gets worse when we get a Labour government in. Being nearly 70 Ive seen the damage everytime they get in so it doesnt change it just gets worse. So if you want to vent your feelings there are a lot of groups on Facebook that share our views. Me I just posted a video.
A glue pot. Classic!
Navigation old school. Much respect is deserved by those aircrew, getting it right at 4 miles a minute!.
The Phantom.....the war plane that looked like a warplane...sleek, menacing, deadly...see one of those after you, you can kiss your ass goodbye!
Love watching this bombing over my old village. I might actually have seen this flying over in 71. and they are still flying over there in 2024 but i could not see them this summer but could hear them at 30,000 ft or more.
Trevor eve!!!!
I’m glad the RAF and workplace isn’t like this anymore. I wouldn’t berate someone for now reporting a leak on time? Maybe a talking to but that’s it!? 😮
Love the old British military training films.
This is what an IQ of 120+ looks like in action.
Me one minute into the flight “sorry, I’m lost” 😂
Oh c'mon you werent an officer were you? You would be lost without inertial nav then lol. Paper maps are too hard at mach1!
I would have some aerial photographers want pics of of factories and fields. They would show me a google earth pic and i would find it by trying not to use the map.
All flying navigation principles are the same no matter what you fly. Bit easier moving fast, wind doesn't effect you.
These chap bit wasteful of maps.
I remember being shown this film whilst at RAF Halton as an apprentice sometime between '75 and '78. I didn't know it was now in the public domain but it definitely brings back memories....
William. Stop it.
These two blokes still with us...??
I honestly couldnt say. They arent named in the film itself .
MOST BEAUTIFUL FIGHTER PLANE F 4
UK armed forces have always have had excellent taste in War Colors.
16:43 - "Is this 499?" - "That's the one, I suppose you want a pen again do you?" Signing the 700 has not changed.
God knows what you are on about clarify or delete please
@@bac1111967 no pilot ever has a pen on him/her when they go to sign for the aircraft. Personally I get asked this every single time by the engineering lineys.
What a highly aggressive response...!
Abs fantastic vid
amazed to read the comments and hear from multiple parties first hand accounts of the incident depicted. living history! fascinating!
Jazz style music sounds like Steady Eddie the Eddie Stobart lorry cartoon - jaunty baritone sax. Maybe incongruous with the subject matter.
Original soundtrack, the director must have known what he was doing.
The smoke and thunder was one of best multirole aircarft ever made. THE PHANTOM❤😊😊
🔥🔥👍👍🙌🙌🦅🏴☠️✨✨ thank you
when i was in lossiemouth flying the sebcat jaguar, we used to see phantoms from time to time.
I was at Fenton years later when it was a JP station 83 to 87.
I used to fly with Chris Kemp on Hercules.
Good days then?
Knew Chris Kemp on TTF Lyneham
Amazing how they managed to fly! after all they looked like "useless, white, male pilots" that the RAF say they don't want today???
Are some of these actors Only the pilot at 2:08 looks like Trevor Eve who played Eddie Shoestring in the 80's
Yes.
@@bac1111967Yes, Some are actors or that is Trevor Eve ?
Phantastic video of a phabulous aircraft. And a great look back at the RAF we had in the 70’s and 80’s - a far cry from the much reduced RAF we have today. I will always remember seeing my first Phantoms whilst on holiday in North Wales near Ruthin in the mid-70’s. We were walking along a ridge line near a golf course, when there was this tremendous sound and the earth shook as a flight of four overflew us, climbing out of the valley below. I distinctly recall the lightning flash on the noses, so I learned in later life that these were from 111 Squadron. Superb machines.
non abestos gasket #3
Really quite interesting. Thanks for sharing.
I am sure Flt Lt Fletcher was on 230 puma squadron around 1986.
Thanks for uploading this video. As a civilian I found it very interesting. Its a very tight and well made film and I appreciate the procedural, behavioural and technical elements that it covered. It has also generated some fine comments. Much respect.
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At 08:09 appears a German Luftwaffe NCO with badges from Aufklärungsgeschwader 51 'Immelmann' and can later be seen working alongside his R.A.F. comrade on the wing bolt. The Bremgarten-based Geschwader was introducing the RF4-E early inthe 1970ies. So maybe he had been on a familiarization exchange while this was filmed.
On detachment to foreign bases, badges, patches & rank slides were swapped all the time. Those were just trophies bring worn by the raf guy & mean nothing much.
@@wirdy1 You may be right regarding squadron exchanges etc., and one of the F-4s is even carrying the owl badge of AG 51 "I" next to the R.A.F. markings. The NCO I was referring to however, is definitely wearing German Luftwaffe rank insignia on his overall.
He also has Norwegian air force 717 and 336 squadron patches on his chest and shoulder.
That was a young Trevor Eve as the disappointed pilot sent to the SIM!!
Had the Ark been kept on, there would have been no Falklands War, the costs of which would have paid for 10 modern replacements, plus one extra carrier every 8 years since 1982.
no rainbow flags brilliant
Love it .... and no pink uniforms!!!!
Trevor eve at 1:42.
Cracking film of the golden days of yesteryear, Trevor Eve was a young good looking chap but needed a bloody good haircut.....😀
6 Squadron, night attack specialised unit.
I was a docs controller on a busy Jaguar line. When I started, I was asked to conform to the Unit's traditional practice of clearing Fs700, to release aircraft as fit to fly, based purely on "We've sorted it" phone calls from Rects teams in the 2nd Line hangar, some distance away. I told them 'no way,' putting me at odds with the Line Flight Sergeant and J Eng O, who both tried to browbeat me. I wouldn't budge. Eventually, I had a 1:1 with the S Eng O, who tried more subtle but inneffective persuasion, including a 3-week move to the hangar to work with the Rects team. Following that, he was NOT amused when I told him, "STILL no way, SIR." Mercifully, I was posted soon afterwards, when my random Gen App request, (one submitted each Monday fortnight, to ensure the previous one was being processed), bore fruit, and I got away. I learned life ain't always easy for a pedantic tw@t, but sometimes it's necessary.... 🤔
no black people
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Not surprising things went tits--up: you've got a load of actors trying to run things. Trevor Eve with a suspiciously non-regulation haircut & Michael Sheard pre-Grange Hill (plus, other familiar faces).
It's Bronson from Grange Hill.
In my own view......THE most beautiful aircraft of it's era (and type). When I was a kid I spent a week with the Air Cadets at RAF Wattisham (74 Squadron), and RAF Wildenrath (can't remember what Sqn, but it was another Air Defence Phantom Squadron. Absolutely amazing to get up close to these beautiful beasts of the Cold War! Great shame when they were retired!
I was on the team that bought the F4Js for 74 Sqn.
Just happened to come across this video. Spotted Pete Dunlop (RIP). My ex boss on 31 Tonka's Bruggen mid 80s. Gentlemen first Officer second.
I was 4 and had nothing to do with it.
What roll did the navigator take when technology reached the point that computers took over that part ?
Anyone know any information on five eight squadron RAF and what their roll is please……many thanks