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“The American missionary Eli Smith and G. H. O. Dwight, who traveled through turkey at the beginning of the nineteenth century observed that the turkomans were generally called Turks by the Ottomans, who abhorred the name Turk and preferred to be called Musalmans (Muslims). To the Ottomans, “turk” was a name that belonged to the people of Turkestan and the nomadic hordes who roamed the steppes of khurrusan. They considered themselves civilized Ottomans, and could not understand why Europeans called them Turks. As a sophisticated ruling class, the Ottomans looked down upon the Turkish peasantry, calling them esek Turk (Donkey Turk), and kaba turk (stupid turk). Expressions like “turk-head” and “turk-person” were contemptuously used by ottomans when they wanted to denigrate each other.”

All the rocks look like polished by the glaciers, and for a long time. So serene and out of human commotion making it easy to plonge in your inner self. Such a nature by its presence forces you to confront yourself and the infinity in which we live. Peace, brother

Janisaries werent oppressed because they were taken to become turkish at ages as up to 10. And a lot of the jannisaries were castrated too.

yes they did and unlike white people's slavery, their slavery was complately based and justified.

Thank you so much for bringing this topic up. Most of the Turkish history is either misunderstood or is being used by politicians to consolidate nationalistic movements. Because Turks are the natural antagonists and the “others”. Same level of ignorance and prejudice can be seen on the view of the events of 1915 by the westerners

Main reason is Ottoman empire used mostly soft power and states governed internally so there wasnt any reason to force for anything. Breaking is not the point bending slightly to have common ground is the point. The time Ottoman empire lost its soft power and reached logictic max it started to get stagnate eventually collapse. Our soft power mainly gone away due to raising of nationality with French revulution and corruption. Ottomans and eventualy people on Turkey has increadibly varried dnas due to soft power dynamics (people tend to marry each other when you dont discriminate shocker I know.) and non nationality based governence people mixed together and assimilated into the culture they created together so nationality effected us a lot. We still have that ambigious relationship ethnic stuff it is akin to a religion(I am not talking about Islam btw) rather than a dna based ethnicity. So if you say Turkish you are Turkish I see from your face that you are not Turkish but in 2nd generation mixed with us that would mean nothing. Even if you dont have one percent blood of us it is a pride to have different people in our name.

Devsirme system was the Ottoman H-1B visa program. I think a similar system first started during the Romans, passed to Byzantium Emp, and finally passed to Ottomans.

As being a Turkish origin, I am accustomed to see Christians don’t like muslim Turks or even hate them. As this video giving some perspective to devshirme system before you make your judgement. It is all about your integrity and intention in the discussion. This is no different than claim of armenian genocide. I saw with my own eyes there is a brainwashing system in America especially in between Armenian rooted kids to believe how Turks are barbaric. Ottoman Turks lived hundreds of years along with greeks And Armenians together in the same region with peace. But suddenly in 1910s ottomans decided to kill all Armenian brothers and sisters. I don’t care what you believe but whatever happened in the past is in the past. Turkiye will never accept such a claim that never took place in its government decision to kill Armenian families systematically within Turkiye. If you want to see some genocidal actions going on in the world, you don’t need to look at the past, it is happening in Palestine 🇵🇸

So cruel Turks stole poor Slavic children and make them the members of the most privileged and respected societal group??Look at the `slavery`! It was a Muslim state and the bureaucrats and soldiers should be Muslim , that `s it. I am Turkish and if I migrate to Denmark, can I become an important bureaucrat ? Please be honest . Of course some would say that I could become a minister in Denmark , my background does not matter because it is a democracy bla bla bla. But we know the truth. I am not saying this to criticize , states always try to maintain an established identity / ideology. That`s how things work!

Meanwhile Christians killed each other for having different sects 😂😂😂😂😂😂 lol

we trained "foreign" to be our grand viziers, architects and "knights", yet europan traders invaded africa, tore families apart and sold them to landlords in america, reducing them to animals.

The reason why there is no Ottoman Empire today, it’s because of “Women”. I don’t care what you say, I know it because I am a Turk but not Ottoman.

correction Turkish wasnt official language of Ottomans. until very late age. there were Persian and Arabic languages officialy Ottoman Empire languages. One for speaking one for typing. also many culture were living with its own native languages. as Greek Serbian Turkish Armanian Kurdish etc. and so on.

If you mean “Ottomans kidnapped” The answer is NO, they didn’t kidnapped, They took them and also some of them joined to Ottomans willingly also done by their parents as well. Note: Ottomans were NOT Turks.! I am a Turk..

Brilliant idea, lets bring back the sultan and crown you as the grand vizier right away. A Norwegian leading a janissary corps - that would be a nice time to be alive! But jokes aside, thank you for your imput on this topic, i enjoyed watching it!

What a great instructive video ! You made a great work ! Thank you for mentionning all the sources. Why can't we make donation on this video ?

They usually came from the poor families… And they became rich, well educated, even famous for some of them.

I've been thinking about this topic on and off for, well, years now, and I have a few things on my mind (I'm not a historian, I'm just generally curious): 1) You're talking about a period of 400+ years and a huge geography. During this period the perception of both the people who were ruled and the people who ruled them changed drastically. So I expect different actions, reactions (and sentiments) at diffferent regions and time periods of the Ottoman empire. 2) My impression is that Ottomans were not simply evil or good, they were mostly pragmatic, so indifferent. I expect that they used whichever method was more efficient for them at the time: "Bribe them if you can, force them if you must" maybe. It wasn't about "what's good for people", it was about "what's good for the empire" (empire being the Ottoman family, of course). So probably a more suitable question is: "Is there any region or time period that these two aligned?". 3) Earliest sources about this topic are (mostly) written after the disbandment of the janissaries. In Constantinople, Sultan Mahmut burned down every document he could think of related to janisseries (even the music sheets), and in Europe various conflicts probably destroyed any possible contemporary accounts about the practice. Secondary documents from the Ottoman archives, like financial documents, court proceedings, or property surveys, might give clues about the Ottoman perception. As for people's perception, I have no idea where to find written accounts (or even if they exist), but I'm curious if some of the loan words from Turkish can tell a part of the story (Like, I think in Ukranian(?) the word "janissary" or "jannisar" means traitor (or samething like that), so I wonder how and when that came to be). 4) All of the above points are written by dry academic curiosity, without any regard to ethical concerns. And I gotta be honest, if you bring back ethics to the table, the whole practice looks horrific, regardless of the circumstances, or who benefited in which way. So, maybe it wasn't that bad, or maybe it was. But eventually, it WAS a bad practice and harmed all parties. So maybe don't lock up the ethics entirely for the sake of academics?

Not some, about 20 Grand vezirs were "Devsirme" (localised/switched is the correct translation), almost all admirals were so! The Ottomans took this system from the Roman empire and perfected it essentially. The US is doing the same today, it was the only system offering people of merit the opportunity to vertical ascension into social classes while European kingdoms were strictly feudal! Not to mention the Janissaries were so powerful that they toppled (and even allegedly killed one) sultans! which led to their abolition eventually. So pretty much everything modern people know about the system is faar from truth! Pretty much all those devsirme pashas were married to royal princesses, so a poor villagers child from the balkans had the opportunity to become aristocrats and benefit their hometowns with their power which they ultimately did!! Even today, Serbs can't be called Turcophiles, but go to the town of Sokol and see how they are revered!!

if you recruit administrator from alien state, they are less likely to do nepotism vs the native citizen simply because they don't have family/connection in close proximity

I mean, the enderun school was the highest level of education in the Ottoman Empire.

As my knowlage on topic it change between time somethimes it was a tax you could exchange your child for and sometimes it is a presitigious school people tried to send their child into which is had some more needed qualification and families of un qualified children would try to throw their child between the qualified child which end up by their child geting executed cause his name is not listed. And it eventualy opened to muslim families which destroyed it discipline causing to get corrupt cause muslim child are not had same edication or growing system as the non-muslims, non muslims would grow in house a selected family whilst muslims simply stay with their own family. Also any kind of bond is forbiden for devshirme(name of this system) so they can not marry nor ownland either trade they only allowed to bond with goverment until they retired which is aroun 40-45 for them but who lives that long in those ages is a question.

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janniseries were stronger than sultan in terms of internal politics and wealthier than european lords at that time

A correction: it’s not “Turkish speaking Muslim aristocracy,” It’s a Turkish and Muslim dynasty.

Thank you

look up the sick man of europe and than you talk

Thanks a lot 🙌 appreciated. I want to hear the topics about Turkish-Armenian-Kurdish history from you. It is difficult to find someone who is not prejudiced, love to investigate, and do not seek provocation🫡

The Turks have overstayed their welcome; it’s high time for us to facilitate their long overdue return to their original homeland, Outer Mongolia (if the Mongols will have them).

Is the Pope Catholic?

The Albanians lands are divided by the "Treaty Peace of London" in 1913. Kosovo, Shkupi, Manastir, Chameria, Presheva, Malesia, Pazar I Ri are some Albanians territories outside todays Albania. PRIZREN LEAGUE Albanian unity 1878, after Nish given to ser*a cause Rusia war defeat

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gördüğüm en orijinal videolardan biri. tarih öğrenmek ancak bu kadar ayrıntılı ve basit olabilir.

It is called conscription when western armies did it, but slavery/kidnapping when Muslims did it.

YES, THE MUSLIM TURKISH OTTOMAN STATE DID KIDDNAP CHRISTIANS. EVEN TURKISH HISTORIANS ADMIT THAT AS A HISTORIC FACT. MOSTLY CHRISTIAN CHILDREN AND GOOD LOOKING YOUNG CHRISTIAN WOMEN WERE KIDNAPPED, BROUGHT UP AS MUSLIMS, USED AS SEX OBJECTS, SLAVES, GUARDS AND SOLDIERS. SOME TURKISH NEO-OTTOMANISTS AND NATIONALISTS DENY THAT HISTORIC FACT, AS THEY DENY THE ARMENIAN, GREEK, ASSYRIAN AND KURDISCH MASSACRES AND GENOCIDES TOO. IF IT IS IN THEIR INTERESTS, THEY DENY EVERYTHING.

If some states signs a non-aggression pact and then break it, then taking some reparations is still gracious.

From what the Turkish Education System has taught me, I can say that: Young Christian children are taken from their families and taught at "Enderun Mektebi", an elite school in the Ottoman Empire. Since people who studied at "Enderun Mektebi" could reach important positions such as vizier, prosecutor, and janissary in the Ottoman Empire, Christian families are positive about this issue. And there is no such thing as taking children without their parents' approval. (I didn't watch the video so don't kill me) I'm just saying.

Müslümanlar tarih boyunca kimseyi "Zorlamamıştır".

In fact, it is very normal for them to hate Turks, whenever Europe took a step in the Middle East in line with its own interests, Turkey opposed them, and recently it started to appear in these African countries as well. This was also the case during the Ottoman period, Europe, which could not act as it wanted, actually paved the way for hatred against Turks through black propaganda, the Ottomans never oppressed the people or countries under their rule at any point in history, they only collected regular taxes and provided them with protection for centuries in return. Regardless of their religion, race, color, they were free in their internal affairs and dependent on the Ottomans in their external affairs. Over time, this black propaganda was presented to the new generations as if it were real, and entered textbooks in schools, children grew up with the bad image of Turks, in other words, generations were poisoned with racism. This is the same for Muslim countries, in other words, children were taught the image that a Muslim is also a terrorist.

Thank you

As a Turkish person senin taşşanı yiyim as you say oversimplifying history for political gain is an insult to historians and the history

Excellent work.❤

Thanks, you are very clear. I hope you make lots if videos

Let me give you a point what people attack the sufism not attack sufism as herself Pacific point of their practice worship in the Grave or calling help beside Allah at what they attack

When you'll see the concept of Mercy in Islam you see more loving god better to the story of the original sin story in Christianity

"The Ottomans were more tolerant to peasantry than the Christian Feudal lords and the church. That's why the Ottoman expansion in the Balkans was relatively fast and durable." Prof. Halil İnalcık, Harvard.

So it is not perfect, but it is very far from a horror story.

Good work. Congratulations !

This is the first video talk about the system in being naughty and not biased

The American dream is actually a devshirme system. Americans stole many things from the Ottomans. For example, if you look at the best American military unit, the Marines, the swords they have are classic Ottoman curved swords, they say they got them from Egypt, As if the Ottomans were not making the weapons in Egypt . This devshirme is a system where the successful are rewarded for their merits. What ended the Ottomans was the removal of the Janissaries and the devshirme system. Instead, nationalists came to the Ottomans and we see the result. Come and be a citizen, even rise to the level you want, earn as much money as you want regardless of your color or nationality, earn the right to free movement, etc. All of these existed during the Ottoman period. Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi, who lived in the 1200s, has a saying. "Come whoever you are" It means that no matter what race you are, you will be treated the same and have the same rights. If you look at today's Turkey, we are actually hybrids, we do not resemble our relatives in Central Asia. We know that European genes are dominant, there are examples even today. If you look at the children of a marriage between a European and a slant-eyed Asian, the slant-eyedness decreases in the first generation and disappears completely in the second generation. It is known that many marriages were made between races. Even if you look at the wives of sultans and pashas, ​​they were Greeks, Serbians, Slavs... The one who ruled Egypt ruled all of Africa in the past. We never used blacks as slaves. There is still racism in America today. We know very well why the elite racists who wrote history in Europe do not like us. In our system, the privileges they gained only because of their families would have no value because These cannot be understood by looking at today's Turkey because after the Ottoman Empire collapsed, Turkey accepted and implemented the feudal order of Europe.