Chad Woodford
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What Psychedelic States of Consciousness Tell Us about AI
The irony of the application of the word “hallucination” to LLMs making mistakes is that they are completely incapable of having psychedelic experiences. Why does that matter?
In this mind-bending exploration, we dive into the fascinating intersection of artificial intelligence and expanded states of consciousness. We examine how imagination, creativity, and innovation seem to arise more frequently in altered or "holotropic" states of consciousness - such as through meditation, breathwork, dreams, dancing, psychedelics, or other experiences.
I argue that current approaches to AI may never be truly inventive or creative, as they lack the ability to model the abductive reasoning and intuitive leaps that often occur in these holotropic states. To support this thesis, we explore historical examples of scientific and philosophical breakthroughs that emerged from dreams, visions, and other non-ordinary states of consciousness.
In short, I am challenging the narrative that AI will soon surpass human intelligence, suggesting there may be profound mysteries of the human mind that AI cannot replicate, and offering a more sober and realistic view of the limitations facing AI research in attempting to model the wonders of human cognition and consciousness.
This video is part of a series about the myths, hype, and ideologies surrounding AI.
Support Chad: patreon.com/cosmicwit
Stan Grof's collected works: amzn.to/3WvFMAy
My previous video on the impediments to AGI: th-cam.com/video/mKT-Bbx-Jyo/w-d-xo.html
Paper using LLMs to model abductive reasoning: bit.ly/4d7pSDj
Willis Harman's Higher Creativity: amzn.to/3yq2SQY
Effects of conscious connected breathing on cortical brain activity, mood and state of consciousness in healthy adults: bit.ly/3SyrSME
00:00 - Intro
02:12 - Overview
05:46 - Abductive Inference
08:08 - Technoscience
09:20 - Holotropic States of Consciousness
13:10 - Examples of Creative Inspiration
13:41 - The Forefathers of Science
15:14 - Insect-Like Intelligence
16:05 - Carl Jung's Active Imagination
18:53 - Visionary Artists
19:31 - Brain Wave States
22:16 - How To Enter a Holotropic State
30:24 - Humans Aren’t Going Anywhere
#consciousness #imagination #artificialintelligence
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  • @Widashy
    @Widashy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What! People are goddamn dead in their soul! I thought it was damn fantastic that you'd start the video like that. The video was about holotropic states and this character suited so well with the topic. I would advice you to keep doing you think is right, since this is your channel and your content. A Big FU to all the haters.

  • @aaronw2as500
    @aaronw2as500 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep at it brother, you'll find your avenue for success! Loved the authenticity of this one.

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I appreciate that!

  • @Widashy
    @Widashy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are correct. LLM is a good step but not necessarily completely towards Intelligence. It could certainly become a knowledge pool for the future-promised intelligence in some sort of way. Salvageable in the future but a waste of time, resources and energy at this moment. Liked and Subscribed, good sir!

  • @cestmoifu1406
    @cestmoifu1406 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly might sound crazy but in reality no one can say where we came from or where we are currently which is absolutely fascinating and indicative of how important and monumental the vérifiable answer to even one of those questions would be for mankind. I think it's intentionally and necessary that the most important questions of life are for us individually to contemplate. Some feel they have to come to concrete conclusions for those questions and others. In my opinion, its the reason that religions, suspiciously, claim to answer these VERY BASIC questions are tax free 😀 religion doing the heavy lifting for something but it's still the most dangerous thing in this entire world. If we had a the answers to those two basic questions religions wouldn't in exist the way we know them far as I'm concerned. Why can't we answer the basic questions of life?? What I'm trying to say is it's a form of omitted manipulation & the fact its never even tslked about makes it more suspicious. Wouldn't be surprised if we were some kind of self regulating, self reproducing, bio-nano ai entities.

  • @cestmoifu1406
    @cestmoifu1406 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Meh. I'm %99.9 sure agi & beyond is already being used in some way some how in some place.

  • @TheCnichols225
    @TheCnichols225 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think AI lacks the Breath of God. But, I think AI could also, eventually prove that's true!

  • @SaulEmersonAuthor
    @SaulEmersonAuthor 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:40 in - So, no - ditch that dude at the start of the video. Your content is striking me as 'worthwhile, on important topics'. That dude at the start is prob more a 'nonsense' channel - & would be fine there. Or - have him come in to here, asking obvious questions - which you then get to enlighten us on.

  • @JodieMarshall-f8i
    @JodieMarshall-f8i 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I appreciate your research into holographic states of consciousness. Thanks for the reassurance we humans will continue & won’t be overtaken. 😉 Cognitive intelligence, as you point out is not the end all of intelligence.

  • @CrackDavidson1
    @CrackDavidson1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think there is no "intelligence" without emotional intelligence, without objective awareness, intuition, wisdom and deeper insight, being able to connect separate subjects into a coherent whole. I think what people are obsessed about is "intellect" or knowledge and this is the hypetrain what AI companies are talking about... About knowing tidbits or having some facts about something, being able to repeat what somebody else has said, but not true understanding and insight yourself aka true intelligence that is closer to the concept of wisdom. As a metaphor; Intellect is 2D, where as intelligence is 3D

  • @cosmicwit
    @cosmicwit 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I realize not everyone knows me or is familiar with my channel. I'm playing a character in the intro. If you find it off-putting, please skip to the main content at 2:12. I'm still learning how to be good at this stuff so I appreciate your patience!

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Little reflection on some of the feedback I got ☺th-cam.com/users/shortsMPAZPdYO2jM?feature=share

    • @plotinuswashere
      @plotinuswashere 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you're good, man. i picked that up immediately (i think most would) and found it amusing 😄 i really appreciate how you cite sources and give historical context. this is great stuff

  • @ikestrawman4625
    @ikestrawman4625 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    im going to try to watch, but your vanity right from the beginning is extremely off-putting and you seem very disingenuous in the intro

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Appreciate the feedback. I was doing a bit. Just skip the intro 😌

    • @SaulEmersonAuthor
      @SaulEmersonAuthor 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's said right-upfront that he's experimenting - & at the start of a new channel is a good time to do this. While I also find it off-putting - there're so many people out there - no matter what you do - with commitment & regularity - you will find a following, if the actual content is good.

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Little reflection on some of the feedback I got ☺th-cam.com/users/shortsMPAZPdYO2jM?feature=share

  • @rwoodford9812
    @rwoodford9812 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So much to consider, fake news has not helped with where AI is heading, and how far it can go. Your take is really helpful and covers much more than the current new outlets!

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! You're right about the amount of hype around AI news and reporting. But it seems like tech news outlets are starting to report on AI in a more skeptical, balanced way. It also seems like the AI bubble is bursting.

  • @itzhexen0
    @itzhexen0 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this was interesting.

  • @mistycloud4455
    @mistycloud4455 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AGI Will be man's last invention

  • @blazearmoru
    @blazearmoru หลายเดือนก่อน

    Intelligence is probably some pre-science term that we're struggling to define because it looks at some result (success) and then points to that and we say "that's what we want!" but figuring all inputs/outputs in relation to all future success states is the actual task we're aiming for. That's a very difficult formula to define as intelligence. Secondly, it's also likely that while there are many different forms of flying, once some pragmatic concept of flying is nailed down then we don't copy bird flight but use airplane flight. In the same manner, it'll probably diverge from human-like intelligence and be different in kind. Third, jumping to logic might be a stretch. It's possible that if we pull pre-science humans and pre-phil humans then teach them phil & science, they would be able to learn it. I don't know how to think about this but our current idiot way to think about this is nature/nurture. It's very interesting how many of our assumptions about such things as well as how blank slates actually behave (AI/game theory) have to be revisited due to AI. This is fun. Philosophy is fun. I want to get into AI :c

  • @littledhampir
    @littledhampir หลายเดือนก่อน

    u r a clown sir

  • @RockEblen
    @RockEblen หลายเดือนก่อน

    Expressing yourself well my friend and your depth of knowledge continues to inspire. Also noticed your snowboard in the background, so we should hook up out west next winter (I have IKON pass)

  • @douglashunt5546
    @douglashunt5546 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe the more accurate thing to say AI wants to achieve is cognition..? Great video brother

  • @rwoodford9812
    @rwoodford9812 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent!

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you liked it!

  • @pythagoran
    @pythagoran หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tremendous essay. The conclusion about abductive reasoning is very enticing. It is precisely this explosion of parameters and compute requirements that has convinced me that we're barking up the wrong tree - "just one more training run, i swear!" I came back to sub to make sure i don't miss the next one. Decided to comment when I saw the criminal view/sub count.

  • @daPawlak
    @daPawlak หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so glad algo stated recommending me smaller channels. This one is pure gold!

  • @cosmicwit
    @cosmicwit หลายเดือนก่อน

    For more on the hurdles around reaching AGI, see this video th-cam.com/video/mKT-Bbx-Jyo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SA-gqiBvHM_Hl9w3

  • @coomservative
    @coomservative หลายเดือนก่อน

    th-cam.com/video/m8k12wmuNG0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=u-bJgnZAzQ7zlbFr

  • @watermelondouche
    @watermelondouche หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing I don't really understand: why would Ilya Sutskever, one of the leading minds in AI, branch off and start his own company devoted to AGI if he didn't believe it was coming soon? He probably realizes that a company cannot survive for forever without delivering and also understands AI better than any of us. Also, he is not receiving any gain from creating hype seeing as their company isn't releasing any other products.

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think he really believes they can get there with current approaches, using their theory of mind and intelligence-I mean that's sort of the broad consensus at the moment-I am going out on a bit of a limb, as confident as I am knowing the theory and a few other metaphysical fundamentals I will describe in an upcoming video. It's also possible that they have some sort of new theory or technology that's not public. So I and the rest of us skeptical computer scientists like Marcus and Larson might be wrong. It's certainly an exciting time in any case :)

  • @alexforget
    @alexforget หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's lacking consciousness, on that front I like Joscha Bach way of explaining what it is, it's a self simulation. Our consciousness is a simulation of the environment with a agent called self. Then you can look at a task asked by another person and the self try to answer, look back at it's response, self critique, see how it fit or doesn't fit with the model he build of the other agent. In the same way we can simulate (think) about the future, the experiences of the past and try to make it all coherent.

  • @WmJames-rx8go
    @WmJames-rx8go หลายเดือนก่อน

    Point 1. I have often wondered if human brain doesn't use some sort of process that at its core is mathematical in nature. Maybe fractal in nature. This concept is reminiscent of Plato's Forms. It might very well be that the computation the brain does is constrained by the rules of set theory. Point 2. Many years ago I learned how to allow my brain to create hypnagogic images. These images are created entirely through a process that I do not command directly. I often wonder how my brain is able to create these images. I do not remember ever seeing these images or trying to conjure them up. Therefore, I think it is correct to say that the human brain does not rely strictly on input from the outside world to construct its sense of reality. There is probably some dance that goes on between what the eyes actually take in and what the brain creates. This may explain how humans are able to conjure up ideas through the process we call imagination.

  • @Jianju69
    @Jianju69 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A thought-provoking essay. Thank you.

  • @marinoceccotti9155
    @marinoceccotti9155 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AI is a hoax.

  • @gigabane7357
    @gigabane7357 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AGI should be against the law period. AI is a hammer, we can do with it as we please. AGI is a sentient being and would have inalienable rights. It is not possible to 'use' AGI without also comitting slavery. Human attempts to make AGI should by law be halted at what we suspect is 99% complete and then to shelve the science until that one day when we know for certain our run is done.

    • @Jianju69
      @Jianju69 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ridiculous. Might not an AGI be more than happy to assist humans (with their paltry issues) in exchange for the support of an organic safety net?

    • @gigabane7357
      @gigabane7357 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jianju69 it might indeed, or it might be born a psychopath because humans made it, and we are so perfect at making inventions without consequences.. The point is AGI is 'alive' So ask yourself. if you were born with an IQ of 400 and the people around you wanted to control you for their own ends, good and bad, you would just do everything expected of you? Then the question becomes what happens when we come to such disagreement and we try to insist. We are meat paste compared to AGI.

    • @pythagoran
      @pythagoran หลายเดือนก่อน

      What in the science fiction of h0ly s#!t are you talking about!?

  • @AndrewBradTanner
    @AndrewBradTanner หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found this material not very good I actually agree with the point you are making but I find these arguments not convincing. 1. If you want to say that transformers just predict the next word and therefore don’t have a deeper understanding, that is not an actual reason as to why they lack a deeper understanding. 2. Transformers are symbol manipulators. But the latent space has computation. 3. Stochastic parrots? Predictive coding being a top biological theory of cortical learning makes this not convincing. Prediction is not necessarily bad. LLMs have poor world models, reasoning, and recall. There are three camps on what will solve this: 1. Scale existing systems and interpretability research 2. Move from low bandwidth language to high bandwidth video (I.e. Yann) 3. New architecture that doesn’t hack a context window I personally think it will be 3. I think curiosity based learning is important piece of this, and touches on the desire point you referenced.

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit หลายเดือนก่อน

      I suppose time will tell!

  • @firstnamesurname6550
    @firstnamesurname6550 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just games of language, Hypewave by NN dynamics. To emulate the integration of a biological organism is orders of magnitude more complex.

  • @stephene.robbins6273
    @stephene.robbins6273 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Throwing an untrained-on-India, US-trained AI into that natural traffic chaos (strangely organized to Indians, boggling to a US visitor) is an interesting thought problem. A US driver would have a tough time initially but would adjust. An AI? It's hard to imagine it ever surviving.

  • @smittywerbenjagermanjensenson
    @smittywerbenjagermanjensenson หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t really care if the machines are intelligent. If they’re good at coming up with goals and achieving there, the internal mechanism is unimportant.

  • @cosmicwit
    @cosmicwit หลายเดือนก่อน

    The video is long, I know. I did my best to cover a large amount of related material in as concise a way as I could. Please let me know if I glossed over anything important!

    • @phen-themoogle7651
      @phen-themoogle7651 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I watched the whole video, and I normally have a short attention span, so very nice job!! You have a peaceful and humble way of speaking that hooked me. I pretty much agree with you, especially in regards to how you defined intelligence and how machine intelligence will be much different from human intelligence. I don’t like to compare machines to humans. In some narrow ways machines have super intelligence like how you mentioned Go or Chess. It’s just unfortunate it’s a bit too narrow and can’t carry across all skills in all domains(or some key types of intelligence missing) , but just goes to show how unique humans are with how many types of intelligence we exhibit. Which makes me think in the future they will have to combine several systems/components to reach something close to AGI , but who knows… Spending trillions of dollars on compute and to scale up is a pretty big gamble if it’s just a smart gimmick. But their plan might be “fake it til they make it” Also Ilya saying he will create ASI is really interesting, what are your thoughts on that? Just skipping the AGI beast altogether? And if we really do get to AGI isn’t it possible it’s like super intelligence across the spectrum because of just how much more machines can do than humans anyhow? (Some researches say ASI is 1 year from AGI which makes me feel they might be the same thing) It’s really hard for machines to stay at just the average/general human level when they are calculating machines idk Even if we have some type of intelligence they don’t mimic well , they could come up with others we didn’t know even existed at some point (although speculation on my part)

  • @cesar4729
    @cesar4729 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Without calling myself an expert, I don't see a specific path, nor a lack of paths. The last month studying neuroscience I have become more convinced every day that we are in a very promising general direction.

    • @jamestheron310
      @jamestheron310 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty much. There is no reason at all to think that intelligence isn't classically computational. There is this notion that there are categories of human cognition that must be unlearnable in some sense, there is no reason to think that either. Creativity, desire, intuition, reasoning, emotional intelligence, etc. these things seem distinct and special to us because we have limited insight into our own minds but they are artificial constructs and at the core they are all the result of the same process.

    • @Jianju69
      @Jianju69 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamestheron310 Not unlearnable. Perhaps merely impossible to capture with just an LLM.

  • @cesar4729
    @cesar4729 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Speaking of deductive intelligence, it's interesting that you don't realize what Muratti is trying to say in that quote.

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you think she’s saying?

    • @cesar4729
      @cesar4729 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cosmicwit She tries to sell that “OpenAI is “open” and gives powerful tools to the public for free.” The mere point requires minimizing what they have in a "closed" way, which is obvious the moment you see the context instead of taking out the isolated fragment.

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cesar4729 interesting. I can see that interpretation. the interpretation I adopted was one I had seen elsewhere so at best it's ambiguous. but coupled with Sam's comments last year it supports my larger point.

  • @TropicalTopicx
    @TropicalTopicx หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if the founders of (OpenAI, Microsoft, Tesla, Google, Amazon, Meta, Apple,...) agree with you while they have already invested one trillion dollar into their vision. By the way it has been projected this number will double in next 4 years reaching 3 trillion in total investment.

  • @mondayiknow
    @mondayiknow หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some deep thoughts. I wonder what the founders of the big A(g)I companies would have to say in response!

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. I'd love to hear what they have to say. I have a few contacts at OpenAI and will report back...

  • @cosmicwit
    @cosmicwit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do captions get cut off on TH-cam but not IG? 🙄

  • @zaggedout
    @zaggedout 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm someone who studies AI, the occult etc and a lot of this video is really dogmatic and naive in the same way that you say the Ayn rand loving technologists are. I agree with us building a future that is more human like in the cyborg manifesto by Donna haraway for example. A solarpunk utopia even. But to say AI is just a "mashup machine" and the human brain is not is just wrong. AI will continue to break boundaries at record technological pace. We will keep moving the goalposts as we have since the Turing test for example. Or AI winning Chess and GO. Or AI being able to make art. Also a lot of transhumanist etc ideas have lots of value to them. You can't throw the baby out with the bathwater just because the elites subscribe to those worldviews.

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like Donna Haraway to a point but find some of her posthumanist ideas to suffer from the same shortcomings that you find with transhumanism. Anyway, plenty to unpack in a more in-depth video to come later. I didn't say AI was a mashup machine; I said LLMs are, which seems pretty plain if you understand how they work, and the way imagination works in the human mind. In any case, I agree that the current state of AI is advancing at breakneck speed. I just think there are more viable approaches to AGI that aren't being explored sufficiently. I'll have more to say about my issues with transhumanism in a future video. I'm not it's all bad but that we should understand these ideologies better before entrusting the future to people who subscribe to them. Thanks for watching!

  • @cosmicwit
    @cosmicwit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let me know if you would read a book about this stuff (techno-utopian ideologies, alternatives to those, and what it means to be human in the age of "AI")

  • @RockEblen
    @RockEblen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done Chad... your presentations have become more and more polished and your knowledge continues to expand and inspire. Can't remember if I suggested this lady before...your ideas align closely: th-cam.com/video/4awmFgXUg8c/w-d-xo.html

  • @polymathpark
    @polymathpark 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "techgnostic" is a great way to describe it. Unfortuantely, AI cults are already starting to develop! But I don't think they'll get very far.

  • @ronalddecker8498
    @ronalddecker8498 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just to be clear, the billionaires are not building anything. They are reaping the rewards of their employees who are building what you deem useful. Sorry to be adversarial. Be well.

  • @ronalddecker8498
    @ronalddecker8498 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will you follow up a bit more about your course? Will it be online, free, accredited, aimed at what demographic group(s)? The one thing that AI can do for certain is to get us to look at the human society in total and become willing to challenge the foundational beliefs that have led us to where we are. Why do we have a massive population that has willingly relinquished the power to make decisions like recklessly moving forward with AI for the benefit of a very few. This is something worth understanding so we might course correct. Not easy.

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree completely! Once the course is ready, I will be posting more on this channel with details, etc. Thanks for your comment!

  • @jedjedjedjedjedjed
    @jedjedjedjedjedjed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video!

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @singularityscan
    @singularityscan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even if we shape AI to what we want as people, it's not automatically a good thing. Porn has conditioned us humans on sexual symbols, the future of sex-robots is big. Sex-robots can bring down humanity in one generation.

  • @eugenetswong
    @eugenetswong 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm sad to see that nobody really interacted with the content of your video. I agree with you, in that we need to uphold values first, so that we have reasonable constraints on how to use AI. I'm a little bit disgusted by how easily we create new AI without any thought for the consequences; like, will it become so difficult to create our own, that we will become beholden to the creators of AI?

  • @iugey
    @iugey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to have crazy hair like that 👍😎👍

  • @duncanbeggs4088
    @duncanbeggs4088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "We need a new vision of the future that is ecological and humane and just like, you know, like more inspired... than what these big guys in Silicon Valley want" *Proceeds to show an AI generated image of a futuristic city much like any tech billionaire might imagine, just with the addition of a bunch of trees on all the buildings... We can dunk on these tech billionaires, I agree a lot of them suck (especially Altman and these AI clowns), but many of them are creating the very technologies that our future needs. If you want a clean and green future without reducing the Earth's population by 90% (and who knows how you'd do that without mass violence or oppression) then the hard **technical** work of building stuff like solar power, fusion power, getting life onto the lifeless rocks of our solar system all needs to be done by someone. Talking to your fellow stoned graduate students in some Bay Area garden might be good vibes but you're really not contributing anything. Learn some math and chemistry and figure out how to make lithium extraction more carbon neutral, or something like that...

    • @cosmicwit
      @cosmicwit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha. I thought about that as I was selecting that clip. Fair point. We need to envision something a bit more solarpunk but there's work to do there.