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Thanks I did quickly replace the winch the original was to small

Yes if I backed in any further the stern starts to float on this ramp. Keeping it up and winching down the boat lets it clear the post before the bow drops. This is many years ago now and I have shortened the post a few more inches, gone to a single chock and lowered the winch. But I also have a larger Delta anchor now so still close. I also upgraded to a 6000lb winch and use a snatch block for recovery.

Here we go again, you don't know me but you are sure I'm wrong and "others" know more than me about my truck, my boat and my trailer... Boats end up a lot heavier than people think. You doubt it you look it up. 2001 Dodge Quad Cab 2500 24v Cummins 8,400 GVWR Here is my boat work sheet... Dry weight, Sea Ray 8700 Fuel, gal 200 1260 (90%) water, gal 35 290 water heater 11 92 gray, water 10 83 chain, anchor 100’ 135 tools,oil,spares 85 Other gear 200 ******************************* Avg 10,845 lbs Standard gear: Fire extinguishers 1 5BC, 2 20BC, 2 15lb fixed Halon, Flare kit MFD chartplotter, 2 VHF Radios, 1 handheld VHF, 32” LED TV, Radar, GPS (#2), LTE, HDTV, WiFi antennas and folding mounts, 4 fenders, 4 mooring lines, 6 type III Adult PFD, 2 type III child PFD USCG Auxiliary gear: First Aid/Trauma Kit, Damage Control kit, Spare Anchor, chain and 100ft line 2 Towing sidelines, Towing bridle w/ SS shackles, 100’ Amsteel 5/8” Tow line 8 type II adult PFD, 2 Type II child PFD Weight not accounted for: Food, beverages, clothing, household supplies, dive gear for two (when coastal traveling) keep in truck Trailer ****************************** LOAD RITE trailers, Inc 265 Lincoln Highway Fairness Hills, PA 19030 MFG Date: 7/2/2010 VIN: 5A4DXT539B2000669 Type: Trailer Model: 34R15000TG3 GVWR: 18000 LB GAWR: 6000 LB w/ ST235/80R16D Tires RIMs: 16x6.5 @ 65PSI Cold Carry: 15000 LB Sold by: Carolina Boat Trailers, Inc Trailer Tare 3,000 LB trailer boxes & spare 200 LB ******************************* GTW 14,045 LB Truck 8,400 LB ******************************* CGVW 22,445 LB CGVWR 21500 LB per Dodge Need to tow with half fuel tanks or less, minus 630 Lb dump water, minus 290 22,445 - 630 -290 = 21,525

@@BigAssBoatOnATrailer so I’m assuming you have a class a cdl since your trailer weight exceeds 10k

@@BigAssBoatOnATrailer also the truck only weighs 5500 pounds plus whatever’s in it maybe 6500

been to busy to deal with this... I am NON-Commercial AND less than 26,001 learn to read. SCDMV Class D - A basic driver's license authorizes the licensee to operate motor vehicles, automotive three-wheel vehicles, motorcycle three-wheel vehicles, excluding a motorcycle with a detachable sidecar, or combination of vehicles which do not exceed 26,000 pounds gross vehicle weight. The "10K trailer" BS... Class A: Any combination of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Well gee I was off a little not 8,400 actually it's 8,800 GVWR for the truck. Can't paste images in comments.

All comments help, however, did you read my reply just two or three down? And many comments are ignorant and mean... they get what they sow. While you are much more polite than many you go down the same path. You assume you know my experience and that I am not educated or experienced in launching or recovering. My first roller trailer was back in 1980 with a 22 foot Mako in the northeast with much larger tides and steeper slippery ramps. I launched and recovered all types of trailerable boats while in the USCG. "look at what others are doing..." I've seen many more bad than good launches with much smaller boats. "you have overthinked it and have created more work, time and headache for yourself not to mention the damage to your hull during rough water launching and retrieving..." really? I have my process, it works for me, I won't hurt my boat nor myself. I take my time, it's not a speed competition. You spend the entire thread telling me all the things I'm wrong about and then end it with "I’m not judging you in any way...". I showed how I do it I have never told someone else how they should do it. With all due respect. Pat

Thank you for detailed and thoughtful comments. Most viewers have no experience with truly large boats on trailers. In fact the video was made solely for a small group of us on ClubSeaRay.com that tow oversized boats. I never imagined it would get the views it has. I also require an oversize permit at 10' 6" beam. My combined gross towing weight is 21,500 pounds. Twin v8's, 200 gallons of fuel, 35 gallons water plus gear the boat alone is 12,500 lbs. This is no pontoon boat. This was videoed at only the third time I launched/recovered with this setup. I should do update as I upgraded the trailer winch and made other adjustments. I rarely use the truck winch now unless very steep or very slick. The front wheel chocks have worked very well. With a roller trailer there is an issue that led me to adding the front winch. When the boat is just out of the water, or barely in, the weight is behind the axles and trying to LIFT the back of the truck (negative tongue weight). With the parking brakes only on the rear axle this can lose grip on the ramp. The truck's diesel keeps a good weight on the front axle and with the chocks have proved to be sufficient in most cases.

And you probably own a bass boat…

Another myth; I can link you to many dually being sunk at ramps... That is a 3/4 ton truck, the 1 ton dually has the same exact engine and actually tows 1,000 pounds LESS, can carry more in the bed but you lose the weight of the heavier axle and extra tires towing.The dually only gives you a little more contact with the pavement. But that doesn't help on wet ramps, the rear tires are always the ones in the slick zone. 4x4 helps more than dually .

It is NOT a 12500 lb boat.

The dually really don't help much as all the tires would still be in the wet/slick zone. But it does have a 12,000lb front mounted receiver winch which I do tie off on questionable ramps. Thanks!

Do you use the boat on local lake

I regularly watch people take 15 minutes to launch a pontoon boat around here. Is your boat and trailer 15,500 lbs?

Exaggerating just a bit? The entire video start to end is 28 minutes. Half that is showing the prep lane setup. Less than 15 minutes in the ramp, including some time for explaining. Do you even have a boat? Do you trailer it? Is it 15,500 pounds of boat and trailer? Or a bass boat? Get real...

Patrick (Big Ass Boat Owner) I feel is super knowledgeable on very large boats. In fact... I think he was either Coast Guard or Navy. He helps people just because. Know that videos submitted on TH-cam of this magnitude are for your benefit and certainly not his! Remember moving forward. Life lessons....Learn from everyone and everything. Throw out the bad and keep the good.

A lot can go wrong - this guy is meticulous - he has to take his time getting that rig ready - that is a lot of weight and responsibility towing that down the road safely - so what if it takes him a half hour - For most of the time he is out of the way getting ready - very courteous - good damn job!!!

Its US made by CPI Designs of NC, unfortunately they seem to have suffered the recent economics there web sites is gone. It is referred to as a "Dock ladder" or "Pontoon Boat ladder". It has worked out very well both on land and in the water. It does not drag at all when on plane. That's one thing to be sure the hinge is above the hull bottom by an inch or so.

Exaggerating just a bit? The entire video start to end is 28 minutes. Half that is showing the prep lane setup. Less than 15 minutes in the ramp, including some time for explaining. Is your boat 15,500 pounds of boat and trailer? Or a bass boat? Get real... And if you look there were three other empty lanes while we filmed.

Also taking both lanes with a winch stretched across the parking lot 😂

@@BigAssBoatOnATrailer My boat is about 10000 lb. Always have a helper and on the ramp less than 5 minutes, usually about 3 minutes. Over 15 minutes in the ramp area. Fortunately, there wasn't a line waiting to use the ramp. I will give you that. But you still tied up the ramp for over 18 minutes.

Look closer it is a four lane ramp

Doubt it could but if it did it could not tow it legally

It comes down to the tow ratings of the truck. I have a 30 foot Doral, very similar to this boat, mine weighing in about 13,000# fully loaded w/trailer. My nephew's 2018 F150 w/ 6 cyl EcoBoost & tow package is rated for 13,000 & change. I towed it a few times with his truck and although it was rated for it, the truck is just too light for that much weight in my opinion. It pulled it great, I was really surprised at how well that V6 did. My ramp is a lot longer and considerably steeper than this ramp and has a lot of sand on it making it much more sketchy than this (I wish it were as easy as this one!). Even creeping down the boat pulled that truck several inches when ever you tried to stop so you had to be very careful to manage your speed (E=mv²). Having surge brakes on the trailer didn't help. Put it in 4 low pulling out, a bit of wheel slip but never a problem. I bought a 2017 Chevy 2500HD 6.0L w/ tow package. It's also rated for 13,000+. Night and day difference between the 2 trucks. Chevy doesn't get pushed/pulled around as bad as the Ford running down the road. At the ramp, a bit of drag when stopping, only an inch or two if at all. Power wise, night and day difference - the Chevy struggles largely due to it's 6-speed tranny vs the 10-speed in the Ford which keeps it in the power band most of the time. But it's not just about being able to pull it, more importantly you have to be able to STOP it which is why you shouldn't cheat the tow limits of vehicles. I changed out the axles on my trailer and installed new ones w/ electric brakes on all 3 axles (only 2 on the surge system). Not only does it shorten my braking distance while travelling, it also eliminates the boat wanting to drag the truck down the ramp since they work going in reverse too unlike surge brakes.

It's a roller trailer not bunks it is designed to be winched, I would be off the ramp by the time it floated and have all the truck wheels wet. The boat is 12,500 lbs loaded, trailer 3,200 and truck 8,200 for 23,900lbs GCVWR at 26,000 I would need a CDL in South Carolina. Cummins 24 valve has the horse power, but 3/4 ton RWD w/ limited slip dif Plus even a dually 4x4 can get dragged down a slick ramp, this ain't no bass boat. But hey thanks for yet another ignorant post they all count...

I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor. I've never seen anything like this shir

Be aware of several things for safety. The weight of the boat (but you are not lifting the entire weight it is a rolling load approx 50%). The strength of the line/cable. The strength/pull of the winch. My boat is 12,500lb, this video is a 4000lb winch, it proved a little weak and I have since upgraded to a 6000lb winch. The synthetic line is rated 12,000lb breaking strength. And the snap shackle is rated 8000lb. A winch is rated on the first wrap or layer. After that it gets weaker as the line fills the drum. So the winch will stalls at 6000lb or less. Everything else is stronger than the winch. If you have a large/heavy boat stick with quality brands for this, Ronstan or Wichard. www.westmarine.com/ronstan-4-5-16inch-l-x-5-8inch-stainless-steel-standard-s-bail-snap-shackle-147983.html www.westmarine.com/wichard-3-1-2inch-l-stainless-steel-small-swivel-bail-shackle-583916.html They are available from many suppliers.

It wouldn’t interfere with the mount up But the canvas would need to be removed for transport. But I think that would be normal unless you s going a very short distance

Thanks, To many commenters get hung up on the "time" which most is in the prep lane not in the ramp. And when not videoing it takes even less time of course. About to release an updated version with some hardware improvements, bigger winch and better setup.

Don't get hung up on the "time" which most is in the prep lane not in the ramp. And when not videoing it takes even less time of course. About to release an updated version with some hardware improvements, bigger winch and better setup. The point is it is a much bigger boat then "average" 12,500 lbs and it is set up to single handed.

How? Anyone else would be home and unhitched before he leaves the parking lot. If you're afraid of sliding down the ramp, use wheel chocks and get appropriate tires for what you're doing, not come up with a sketchy workaround of winches that closes the ramp for 30 mins

Alfred is never speechless...

No saltwater crocks here...

No here in South Carolina folks a very civil. If you look 15 minutes is spent in the prep lane. People are always waved around if we're not ready. And you should see that three other ramp lanes are empty. The whole video is only 30 minutes, do the math. And that's with filming.

@@BigAssBoatOnATrailer I stand by my comment, 15 minutes of boat prep is excessive. Doesn't matter where you are from.

When we launch we stay out all weekend, typically Friday noon thru Sunday. Sometimes even launch Thursday evening.

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It is synthetic winch line, Amsteel, very strong and no snap back like wire or nylon About to release an updated version with some hardware improvements, bigger winch, line and better setup