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Thanks a lot. I was torn between a used model 3 long range and performance, given that the performance is mostly a bit cheaper and faster for only little range you gotta trade in. Now I know to be extra carefull with the performance

Hi if the owner has fsd with the car will this also get transferred?

I'm really curious why so many batteries with less than 30k miles have more degradation than almost all vehicles over 40k

I wished i would've known about Plaid battery degradation before i bought a used Plaid with 41K miles on it. Instead of running 9.2-9.3 at 150-151 mph best i can do is 9.4 at 146. I went to a dragstrip and trapped 148 twice but i think strip timing was off. Could be wrong. I haven't been able to trap over 146 on the dragy. Knowing what i know now especially with how much Plaid is depreciating i would've got one with under 20K miles. I bought mine for 68K a few months ago. Still a great car

Can you have a look at Porsche Taycan depreciation around the world.

Thank you for you site! You are great source of information for Tesla owners. Especially the part with the software updates.

Thank you for the video and your site 🙂

Wait, you don't recommend setting a charging stop time?!...that will not go down well with people on a specific EV tariff.

Does anyone have a link to this graph? Its a shame its not linked in the video description.

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Does anyone know if the car has SC05 and I change the account email and name for the new buyer rather than the "Transfer" will this work? i am concerned about changes in registration... anyone have experience with this ?

Because the buyer is also paying off lien and likely won’t have title for days, should they still start a Tesla account and do this transfer

How was this data gathered?

Where is the Plaid data?

Can you find data on ICE car depreciation rates to a similar resolution and segment? I think 15% over 3 years is massively underestimating. UK market prices in 50% after 3 years and a further 50% (25% of new) over the next 5 years. Tesla seems to look favourable in comparison to this... I imagine there is a clear delineation at 4years and 50k miles for the warranty, and again at 8yrs for the battery. The former being evident in any car i would think, and the latter in all EVs.

Is this a symptom of the regions being supplied by these factories and their varying temperatures/climate? China made going to Europe and Chinese market, and US made to US mainly (with some variation).

If im looking to buy a used Tesla, is there any easy way to do this kind of assessment prior to purchase?

Super fascinating. I work with data scientists and have been looking at domeatic battery degredation numbers, but havent seen any comprehensive Manufacturer specific degradation broken down like this by model and year. It's very helpful. I'm in the market to buy a used EV this year, and had been considering an older high mileage Tesla. The stability of the 75D is suddenly very appealing where i was less interested in it before. And the different model 3 chemistries, not just the model year being a factor, but manufacturing location! I need to find a way to ask dealers more info they can actually answer to make shortlisting easier. Dealers know nothing of this kind of data.

What is your source for the inventory on your site? because Tesla removed VIN numbers from the URLs and I thought they made it impossible to track the inventory anymore. So how do you get your inventory numbers? Your site just says it comes from Tesla directly but I imagine they do not provide that directly?

Even if I could justify a performance model, I'll be going with a standard just for the LFP batteries.

Great video. Nice to see some data to illuminate the issue. An interesting point was the variance in the smaller sample sizes - could indicates some consumers still be exposed to very high early costs / performance issues. Would be great to see something that looks into vehicle vehicle age and mileage at age vs failure probability. Very reassuring to see the data. Great work

Comforts me into buying a SR with LFP battery, on the used market i have around 25k euros budget, ideally 17-18k but finding a model 3 for that price won't be easy Fingers crossed i won't face any big issues not covered under warranty cause I'm taking a big risk putting 20k+ in that instead of putting it in savings, the apartment etc.. x)

How can we understand which version of HW tesla have?

An now that Elon fired a large part of the Supercharger Team, there’s no hope of seeing any mitigation solution for battery degradation. It would have been nice to see some pulse charging protocole during supercharging to prolong the batteries life cycles…but I guess that when you are a billionaire, battery degradation is not a problem.

Very nice work guys, impressed 👍😊

awful for roundabouts. hate this change

thanks for the great video, and also fantastic website

Thanks very much for making this kind of videos! Very useful..

Thoughts on the new model 3 performance Gen 3? You see that the range is less than the Gen 1-2s ? People are claiming it’s because it’s due to a “new EPA test”, and that the older models would be less with same test. I think the new model 3 performance just has less range and they’re making excuses and starting rumors.

Where is this data from?

Is it true that if you take one of the SC01 free supercharging equipped Teslas to a service center, they’ll basically hold the car hostage telling you that they have to remove it otherwise they won’t service the car?

Hello Tesla Info, Thank you for this very instructive video ! I'm planning to buy a S90D but unfortunately, i couldn't find the battery degradation for this model on your video... What if you had clicked on the "refresh results" button when you switched from the S85D to the S90D ?

My fuel tank hasn't degraded in 25 years,still holds 75 litres whether I fill it fast or slow,fill it up 100% or run it down to empty(which is not a good idea).Hmm...I actually don't mind the idea of going to electric,but I don't like the battery technology.

My 2011 Nissan Leaf lost 50% of its battery capacity after only 20,000 miles and 5 years because I left it unused each of the 6 month winters. I wish I was warned. It sold new for $32,500 and I got $3,000 on a trade in. At the end when charged it only had a 50 mile driving range in winter.

I wonder if those Chinese batteries being a bit "hotter" than the others might correlate with the high rate of Chinese-built EVs spontaneously combusting and incinerating themselves and other nearby vehicles. 'Can't be good for insurance rates.

Tesla owners will throw they batteries in the ocean and think they're saving the planet

I have a 2015 85D. It wasn't clear to me what you saying about that data set. It sounded more negative than about other data sets. Could you explain/clarify please? Thank you. I wasn't ever good at math.

Lfp is 53 KW. Why are you claiming that the higher 57 KW range is LFP?. Enlighten me please, which one is actually the LFP range?

Yikes

You mean the battery made the exact same way as my iPhone gets weaker and weaker over time?? And eventually won’t work at all??

3:16 Wow! So China produces qualitative product!

When are we getting the update?

More good info, ta. The 2023 LR results showed a couple of bad outliers for the China batteries. I wonder what the story is there?

If people with home charging only waited an hour before plugging in, I would guarantee their cell packs would hold capacity and the slower the charge rate the better. Tesla cell cooing is restricted by the cylindrical shape of the cell, reducing the contact patch with the cells. Any type of fast charging is a recipe for speedy degradation, as opposed to those who 'babied'' their cell packs and experienced no loss in range. I have experimented in this area and proven beyond any doubt that this is true and have the data to back it up (no I will not give it away for free). I am at the 10 year stage at present and plan on continuing doing so until I see some drop off. I did find it interesting that you used giant script to obscure the outliers. Can't help thinking you tactfully paced this text as seemed to move around from image to image. I have no explanation for the sizeable difference, of above range data, other than this was all self reported data rendering it as thoroughly useless. Particularly with the cult-like behaviours of Tesla owners. In regards to EVs in general, the data still shows that 51% of owners do not buy another EV when trading in, or at end of lease. Our research shows this will not shift until the advent of solid state cells that are not effected by temperature, hold 50% more capacity cell for cell... and will experience no degradation however charged and can be charged much faster. These cells already exist and are moving into mass production over the next 18 months. At this time Tesla shares with be junk should they not be able to access supply, which is a distinct possibility due to the competitive nature of business in general, and by the fact that vertical integration is attached to these cell's development. Only Chinese EVs will have access to them.

Excellent video. Now we just need this data for all the other manufacturers. Are the 2022 LGCHem and Panasonic batteries, with the bimodal distribution, the same chemistry? Also one English usage point: 'depreciate' is about cost, but you are using it here for capacity. Capacity can 'degrade' or 'deteriorate' or 'reduce', only value can 'depreciate'.

Thank you for not saying Tezla.

The spread is insane. However even risking ending up with a battery degredation on 5-10% after 5 years or 100k is not something I want. We are talking about fairly new cars, 5 years or so. What will be result be if they have twice the age and twice the ODO? I think batteries will degrade faster as they get older.

The wiper change is controlling using UP & DOWN on the left scroll wheel, not left and right, which is clunky and can cause you to unintentionally press the button. This will allow easier adjustment - hopefully they will one day use this feature to adjust auto wiper sensitivity - we can but hope…

Thank God they degrade, Have you seen what one of these bombs do? Beside, 911 inside job is nothing.

Well at least now Tesla finally has some variety 😅