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What a rabbit hole this case is even still. Also heard that even the eldest daughter, Sheila Sharp, may have been a co conspirator because of the angle of her late mother's hand in the adoption process of her grandchild being adopted to other persons since Sheila was only 13 at that time prior to all this and had only been back home a short while because she was living with an aunt out of state upon giving birth and legally giving up the child idk 😳 🤔

East drive. Just a money making pit. Nothing paranormal in that house.

So you just blab for the whole video? People want to see the actual characters. And hear them.

I believe that was a murder suicide case, the father was a coward and don't want to take the blame of killing his wife and daughter after he kills himself, so he planned the "vacation trip'' , and to make it more believable , he left the $32,000 in cash in a bank bag, and left their wallet and purses, to make people believe that they were really going for a vacation. this just rings a bell that this was not a robbery that went wrong, just plain murder suicide.

I think scapegot and hospitals sacrifice people each day she were uased as a distation

32:32 I wonder what you'd say if all men withheld love and intimacy from women. "Oh well, they don't owe us anything?"

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Really good episode guys ❤ as always! And in regards to her taking the dog - I listened to a podcast of an ex female prisoner from Essex. She said she had a moment where she was in the same gym as Joanne and thought this was her opportunity to speak to her, but mainly wanted to know why she stole the dog. Joanne just said “the dog looked hungry”… Made me think, if the dog was looking chonky would it have been killed too? 😅

This episode was 🤯🤯🤯 such a horrific crime but also such a sad story of the killer. Never usually in 2 minds about outcomes but that was an interesting exploration of her story and the crime as a whole. Nice one guys 👍🏻👍🏻

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Great episode, never heard of this guy and his family of window lickers. Even if its 50% true.....weird. Amy needs a little bit taller chair, can we buy that instead of coffee?

Thank you for doing this one! Definitely better than the actual Slenderman film (but that really sucked anyway) Loved this 🤘🏻

He became the acting boss in the mid-seventies after Lombardo fell ill, but he officially became the boss in 1980, but it is mistakenly said in 1981.

0:16 He Never Pissed In The Streets , it’s Just a Rumor

The too of them are hard work

Ofc she did it!! She lied about the rashes!! except wait lol her account of the rashes matches every other persons contemporary account of what they looked like, bar one 😅🤫

Keep up the great work enjoyed listening to this

I don’t believe in cremation it’s against religion

Cremation is a bad sin

I love your casual introduction, meandering along, but certainly keeps me guessing! Such grave humour! ❤️

This was a great episode!

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Ronald defeo is the first one to shoot some one with a rifle and get covered in their blood george luts heared a marching band a lion ghost the 1960s movie 13 ghost had a lion and marching band

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It is normal to receive a rifle in certain areas of the country, especially rural areas and families that have a hunting culture.

Being from an older generation, it was her looks that was the problem, it was basically her attitude. She would have been ostracized and considered as a ghost that walked the hallways.

And correct gun safety classes

Its pretty normal for kids to get guns under heavy adult supervision

Good podcast!!

Great episode 👏🏻

Idiots. There’s always you clowns who want to feel smarter than everyone else and make fools of yourselves.

Take a look at the maternity unit stats - one of the highest rates of stillbirths in the UK- it is amazing what a good dose of Ecoli will do to the birth rate and those babies who survive being born when raw sewerage is spread in the building. All the babies she was accused of harming had either a diagnosis of or symptoms of infection which is one of the major causes of death in neonates. The stroke unit above these two units also had a very high level of hospital acquired infections. She was seen as a pleasant, sociable person by her actual friends and her colleagues. This nonsense about her supposedly telling people she was single etc - do you think it possible someone asked her once and the prosecution has blown this up. After all they told many lies. One of the lies is that when Letby moved from nights to days the collapses also moved - this a nonsense and is based on circular reasoning. They only recorded the incidents when she was present therefore she was present every time - this is how they came up with the chart which has been so widely published. The fact is she was present on the ward when less than half the deaths occurred but the facts about collapses are impossible to know because they were not recorded. Child A was not a healthy baby - if it was it would not have been on the ward. The blue mottling is a symptom of bacterial poisoning and there is no evidence any babies were injected withn air. None of the "medical experts" at the trial had any experience with air being injected - this was actually a Dr Dewi Evans invention bases on his having read a paper 30 years previously. This baby had symptoms of an infection as did baby B. Letby did approximately 20 searches related to patients and their families over 2 years from approximately 2500 searches - perhaps she was a caring person. Baby C - not a healthy baby again otherwise it would not have been where it was and Lucy responded to the alarm prior to the designated nurse is all. Baby D - again the the x-ray showed no evidence of air being injected - it couldn't have - it was not taken within the required time period and the coronor found death by natural causes as was the finding in the 6 cases that had autopsies. Lucy ,once again demonstrates she is a caring person, and once again this is being interpreted as sinister after the event. People may have heard of the statistician Richard Gill who proved that the statistical evidence used to convict a Dutch nurse of multiple murders was false has looked at the statistics in this case and has pointed out that these stats are within normal variation. He actually refer to the prosecutions main expert Dr Evans as that Welsh idiot and describes him as a charlatan. Evans has previously had his evidence described as worthless by a judge in a previous trial and the only experience he has had with neonates was early in his career and he has been retired for several years before offering himself to the police as an expert witness in this case. Another expert witness Dr Bohin was actually under investigation for child abuse at the time of the trial - I dont know if that has been resolved yet. A further prosecution expert has quietly ceased practice after accusations of malpractice were raised. There had been 12 deaths in a year two years previously and considering that there was raw sewerage above the false ceiling above the babies cots. These two have made no attempt to actually examine the evidence and I am guessing they are going to talk about insulin being used to poison babies but I cannot be bothered listening them repeating the MSM rubbish so I will get in first. There is no evidence of synthetic insulin being given inappropriately - the test the prosecution quotes as proving this cannot do so and this is recorded in red on the results slip. The glucose level quoted for one of the babies was so high it would have killed an adult let alone a neonate and neither of the two babies were in any way unwell. A further BG blood test two hours later showed the glucose level to be within the normal range - this is just not possible. The really absurd part of the prosecutions claim the insulin was used is that they claimed it was injected into the TPN bags which were supposed to be given over 24 hours. The first bag was put up when Lucy was present ( this is a two person procedure usually) but after she went off duty this line blocked and needed to be replaced as did the TPN bag. Another nurse selected a bag from the ward store and this was put up. The prosecution then claimed this bag also had had insulin injected into it so either the nurse happened to choose the one bag that had insulin in it or a number of them did and none of the bags were ever tested. But strangely enough when the other bags from the store were used none of the babies given them had any problems with blood sugar levels. In short there is no actual evidence that implicates anyone as deliberately seeking to harm any of the babies. By the way insulin was not kept in a locked cabinent in the nurses station - it has to be kept in a fridge and no one was found to have insulin on them at any point also taking into consideration that this was not thought of at the time.

Do you make your living doing this? If so that is incredible.

This trial was disgusting and should never have even happened, Lucy is a scapegoast and 100% innocent.

13:20 She wasn't. In fact, this part of the analysis is so bad, I'm not going to bother watching the rest. If you can extrapolate that she was constantly telling people she is single (even though it appears in none of the copious communications presented in trial), I have no faith in you to present a strong picture of this case.

Your both just reading things everyone knows your bringing nothing to the party! if you want to do something use your heads and look at the facts

LL is innocent

You failed to mention the MANY colleges who testified against her. There also were no colleges in court to support her. (Other than her parents and one family friend). The evidence was overwhelming that she was the only one that could be responsible for those deaths and near deaths. I have followed this case and I am a RN myself.

I thought this was a well measured presentation, well done. It makes me support criminal profiler Pat Brown's opinion that we should have professional jurors.

She says miraculously stops. She failed to mention that the unit was downgraded in 2016

Well this podcast is very balanced is it not… I’d say not.

So there are a few things I want to say on this. There saying that Lucy letby could of been killing or harming babies since she was a student. I believe she started her course in 2008. As a student nurse you are not allowed to do any major intervention without being supervised by a qualified. Unless she was super quick that kind of thing that should be discarded, the second is she qualified in 2012 but apparently didn’t do any murders for 3 years. Wow she must of had lots of restraint to curb those murderous urges. Why is it not mentioned about the child that needed an umbilical catheter and 2 junior doctors and a consultant on the unit that could not do it. They had to get an anaesthetist from alderhey hospital to come and do it. He could not understand why they had such problems in carrying out of the procedure. This woman has just said we should trust the justice system in the uk. Tell that to the Birmingham 6 or the Guildford 4 or Andrew malkinson. Trust the justice system. Fuck that and this silly bitch saying it.. again I’ll just reiterate what has already been said. Check out the Scott mclahan substack then make your own decisions instead of just listening to mouth pieces like these fools. Incompetent and negligence is the reason these poor kids. That and those scumbag consultants who were more worried about there media careers. Horrible bastards

If she hd been previously falsely accused, cld this have been why documenting & possibly over documenting became part of her defense she didn't do it ...

How much of reporting is reliant on hearsay?

Maybe a compassionate move...

You guys are asking 'if Lucy didn't kill the babies then who did?' Well you only have to see the news to see an increase in maternity deaths in various hospitals / maternity wards all over the country (see reports of Morcambe Bay, Shrewsbury, Nottingham etc etc). Due to lack of staff, ineffective management, not enough funding etc. Chester's deaths weren't due to the usual reasons but they happened to have a serial killer working there, how convenient

Do you believe it's possible that Lucy Letby could be innocent of murdering the babies?

Definitely a scape goat.

LL is very pretty