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Hardwood Fabrication
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 27 ธ.ค. 2022
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Odies Oil vs. Rubio Monocoat: Why I Will Never Use Odies Oil Again
In this video, we show you how to apply Rubio Monocoat over Odies oil. We take an Indonesian monkeypod table top that had previously been finished with Odies oil and transform it with a thorough stripping and sanding process. After preparing the surface, we apply two coats of Rubio Monocoat to give the table a fresh, new finish. This process can be time-consuming, but the results are worth it! Watch as we bring new life to this beautiful piece of furniture.
Products used:
Acetone
3M Xtract Cubitron Sand Paper
Festool EC125 Random Orbital Sander
Festool Midi Dust Extractor
Rubio Monocoat Oil Plus 2c Pure
Sandpaper Storage Organizer
www.amazon.com/dp/B0027ACBKI
Products used:
Acetone
3M Xtract Cubitron Sand Paper
Festool EC125 Random Orbital Sander
Festool Midi Dust Extractor
Rubio Monocoat Oil Plus 2c Pure
Sandpaper Storage Organizer
www.amazon.com/dp/B0027ACBKI
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Great VIDEO. Rarely are there great 'compare' videos. At 6:37 you mention the final grit at 240. Which seems very fine, then later you mentioned at 8:03 you mentioned it product doesn't absorb as much. Is this likely due to the finer sanding grit (240) mentioned earlier at 6:37?
I’m pretty sure the application is achieved with a white pad not a soft buffer
“Why I will always use finish with isocyanate plastic in it because I don’t have the patience to properly apply Euro Oils and the Odie’s Oil product exposed that fact” There. Fixed it for ya. News flash: if you used Rubio the way it was originally designed, without the isocyanate plastic additive, then your technique would have failed the way your Odie’s technique failed. Too rushed and too undisciplined to apply it properly. That’s why Rubio adds that plastic isocyanate, to make guys like you feel like you accomplished a successful finish.
Super lovely. Thanks for the honest process of your video. I too love the Rubio finish and simplicity. So I spent 6 months looking for a custom size end table. All seemed to be way beyond my budget. So I found a piece of butcher block natural pine that was marked down due to a very noticeable scratch. But I bought it and sanded it out. Then watched hours of “best” finish videos. Rubio was rated overall best. As a Grandma of 8, I didn’t have time to hover over furniture. The table looks lovely, is durable and a perfect fit for a lamp and an army of plastic soldiers. 😊
I like Odies for small projects but have switched to tried and true
Odies oil is just a dumb hipster fad. It's just fucking wax, but these idiots pay obscene money for it and will die on a sword to defend it. It's overpriced wax. It's not permanent or particularly durable.
I learned more about Rubio Monocoat from you than I could figure out from their obscure vague website. It's a catalyzed oil finish. Which ought to be named Duo-coat since its a two part finish.
Rubio Monocoat, it’s in the name just one coat apparently a second coat will not penetrate. I’ve used Rubio for a few years now and found it to be a superb easy to apply product. I apply it with the pads that they recommended and just wipe off the access, it’s simple and durable. Not cheap but goes a long way and is durable 😀
I use oldies on my counters and floor. I did them myself. Milled the flooring And everything. The maintenance is a lot and it’s not as easy as they pretend it is when they sell it to you. But it is great.
120 is as high as you go with Rubio. You need the pores open. If you go with high grain paper you need to water pop it and don’t sand anymore
Just came across this video. I've used both Odie's and Rubio. I'm going to go the other direction than most the of comments I'm reading below. I've had far better results from Rubio than Odie's. While it is very true, a little bit goes a long way - for both finishes. I have found a far more durable, even finish with Rubio. I've also used Rubio tinted 5% white - which is GREAT for light colored wood like maple. It doesn't give the yellow tint like Pure does. So - for me personally - I will stick with Rubio for larger projects and table tops. But I'd still use Odie's for smaller projects. Honestly - to each his own. I think it goes down to personal taste. You did a fine job on the table - and you learned from your mistake (Rubio's documentation even tells you - you can never take too much off!) Nice job!
If you want to Use acetone, polyurethane or any form of highly dangerous and cancergeous chemicals. Make sure you wear a mask with A1 filter, gloves, and long sleves. If you happen to have sawdust in the room. You need to use mask at all times in your workshop! not only when you apply. You dont see a lot of old woodworkers able to run a marathon these days. Thats what we want to change. Health is a lot more importaint than your piece of wood, but you actually dont have to compromise. Theres way better options than Odie's in the toxic free segment that actually penetrates and hardens the wood properly ;) Cheaper too.
I did a 7'x2'x2" black walnut live edge mantle using odies oil. Two coats took at most 3 table spoons of Odies at most. I'll probably use this jar for years. Applied a glob to a scrub pad, then scraped it back into the jar. Used whatever remained on the pad to apply to almost a 1/4 of the top side before repeating. If you used a jar, you either are trying to make odies look bad, or you don't know how to use it.
Countless layers of Odie's Oil? I have never applied more than two coats. Something isn't computing here. There's definitely a user error going on. Do some browsing of how others apply it, and how the manufacturer explains the process. I'm sure you'll change your mind.
lol, the gloves lost me. u did odies all wrong. lol
Dude. So many things here. Agree with others that you didn't apply the Odies correctly. You didn't apply the Rubio correctly either. You aren't supposed to go above 150 grit at the very highest, for Rubio. 120 is what they recommend. You aren't supposed to sand the wood itself that smooth, you're closing off all of the pores. Your finish can't get into the wood. Nobody should follow any of the things this guy did. So many hacks passing themselves off as pro's these days, and youtube is making it worse.
massive user error here. jesus haha. an entire jar?? good lord man. what.
What kind of stain did you use on your fence?
You massively messed up applying the Odies
thought this was going to be a good comparison, sadly not I was hoping for. Not really a fair side by side.
You only need one ounce for 25sqft with odies . A full jar on one table is insane should be like 10 tables. And scratching the table with your finger and it marking means you never removed all the oil. So clearly some mistakes were made during the application process . I feel odies is much better than Rubio and use it most of my projects. But all and all this isn’t a fair comparison video. And hope you give odies another chance and if you follow the directions to the letter I think you will be shocked with the results.
Acetone on epoxy ? My acetone eats epoxy like the sun melts Groenland. In seconds, the epoxy is kaput. How did you manage to save the epoxy ?
Good lord get to the content. Moving on.
Rubio MONOCOAT .... a second coat is just waste of product. Rubio states the product does not bond to a previous coat. If you want an additional protection, use their metalizer on top of the first coat.
Entire jar? WTF?
Hi. Great looking table. What do you think of using rubio on a raised panel finished room? Not sure if it is red or white oak. Has a stain. Several coats of possibly shellac. Thank you.
One needs to educate themselves on how to use each individual product. You clearly did not do your due diligence on how to apply Odies oil. It is a wonderful product if the application is done correctly, do your research and refrain from educational videos when you are clearly not a professional, and have no business trying to teach others when you do not know yourself.
DUH
A whole jar??!! 😳 Bruh, I usually shake the jar and literally only use what's in the cap for almost 4 square ft. Its all about the elbow grease in rubbing it in and buffing it off. Too much Odies, leaves it tacky and dry spots. It's all about the application. Just my experiences tho. I would tend to agree that Rubio would be easier for larger applications tho. Odies for my smaller applications.
The Odie’s jar is supposed to cover 400 sq. ft.
You applied odies incorrectly, removed it incorrectly as well. In testing odies performs actually better than Rubio. That being said, all oil/wax finishes provide very little surface protection other than water resistance. They are not film forming finishes, if want something for that.. are countless products that do vastly better. Also.. not pulling out oil with that solvent inbetween sanding, its just fine dust left. Water popping... only works on the final sanding where you go back with a high grit by hand and knock down the nibs. Power sander takes it too far down and defeats the point.
You need to read the bodies oil application instruction and follow to the letter. It will out perform Rubio
Just an idiot whining about being lazy and not doing things correctly. Wasted time
People who have trouble with odies haven't applied it properly
You should use the products correctly before you start knocking them online., U way off my man.. Unreal that you used a whole jar in one project plenty mistakes you're making
Sounds like you didn't get the Odies penetrated enough... not sure. Who cares? The Rubio is awesome!!! Thanks for sharing!
What color of the rubio monocoat is this?
Odies oil smells good... that's about all its good for.
Have you never seen anyone apply this finish before you man. This is a great video to show people how not to apply both of these finishes. So I guess good job if that was your goal!
seriously... I bailed out at 6:44, by then it was abundantly clear this guy has no idea wtf he is doing. Hacks.
To start with, there is no comparison with the Rubio monocoat oil plus 2C comp. A and comp. B. and Odie's wax. The former is a 2 component and the latter a 1 component. That said the 2 comp. will always beat the 1 comp. plain and simple. If the 2 comp. is somehow not as good as the 1 comp. you can rest assured that the 2 comp/ is an inferior material. Sooo, yes using too much material with not enough cure time between coats is an issue by the person putting it on and not the material but there is more to this product than just any other material. Just because it’s dry to the touch doesn't mean it’s ready for the next coat. Being a master journeyman in CRII painting, I have an extensive background in (re)finishing and homeowners almost always(no offense) get it wrong because they get the marketing confused with the directions given for application and that’s just what the marketing team would like, because you WILL end up buying more for whatever reason.. lol. The Odie’s directions for coating by the guy, James that created it, believe it or not, could be improved on! Lol. This material is unique in that it uses the heat by friction from the application to draw the materials down into the wood fibers initially. It’s important to know that this was a wood flooring product initially and that is how it is applied on floors with a buffer. That is what it was originally designed for. It’s all on their video’s with no fault by James it just fails to be considered/offered for other surfaces… lol. That said, it's easy to see the folly. 😀
Meanwhile if you have captions on........ "now I'm ready for that second coat of booties," could we have people doing the captions that understand or passed English in school. However, captions online are still nowhere as bad as the garbage i get watching T.V.
It’s not an activator but an accelerator. You can use it without it, but it takes more time to cure.
It's actually a chemical modifier. Rubio calls it's part two a catalyst when it's actually a reactant. It doesn't just speed up the drying process, it modifies the linseed oil so that the finish becomes a polyurethane. Rubio's part two is mostly isocyanate. They say their finish is food safe because it isn't "free isocyanate", but really what they mean is that once the oil dries all the isocyanate and linseed oil has reacted together to make polyurethane. Rubio's verbiage is pretty sneaky.
A full jar of odies covers like 400 square ft.
Wow...beautiful table. One thing seems very clear. A well prepped, very high-end piece of wood, can make any product seem exceptional.
What color Rubio coat if any did u use?? Great vid! thanks for it!
Odies Oil applied wrong vs. Rubio Monocoat: Why I apply a product incorrectly then blame the product
13:02 you mean Rubio ;)
OMG!!!! I AM STUDYING FOR MY FIRST PROJECT AND AFTER TWO DAYS OF SEARCHING, YOU ANSWERED ALL THE FRUSTRATIONS/FEAR I WAS HAVING INCLUDING THE EXOPY RIVER WHICH IS SOMETHING I WANT I WANT TO DO ALSO. DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO ON HOW TO DO THE RIVER? TOOOOOO PRETTY!!! LADY HAYNES. OH BY THE WAY, THIS IS ALSO MY FIRST TH-cam COMMENT🤣
looks beautiful...
dude a hole jar 😂 I can do my hole house whit one jar you did your project wrong 😂 Odie’s is a natural product and Rubio is poison! Please dude don’t blame a beautiful product on your own fails, Odie’s is a amazing product ❤