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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2023
Old Style Classics Baseball Cards & Hobbies is my channel to show & talk about my hobbies and interests. This a sister page to my other channel RobsTvWorld. This page I will focus on my thoughts, ramblings on about my hobbies and other things. I am a huge Chicago Cubs fan and was born in Chicago. I have loved baseball my whole life, having gone to Cubs games as a kid with my Grandpa a huge Cub fan too. My favorite player and PC player is ANDRE DAWSON. He was my favorite player even before he was a Cub. I moved from Chicago to Albuquerque New Mexico before the 1st grade and grew up there. I love NM and the NM Lobos & other NM sports & NM history. I moved to the Bay Area California in 2011 to be with my now wife; we met in the 1st grade. I love Cards, Concerts, Sports, Events, Ticket Stubs, Autographs, History, and Topps Allen & Ginter cards are my favorite. I love Old Style Cards like Pre-war, Tobacco Minis Old & New, & I love Odd Ball product issue cards like MSA. So enjoy. TY! Rob.
Star Wars Wednesday RIP James Earl Jones voice of Darth Vader, some more SW collectables, & cards!!
9/10 Somber Tribute. Star Wars Wednesday RIP James Earl Jones voice of Darth Vader, some more SW collectables, & cards!!, Revenge of the Sith Plate, and Lithograph of Duel of Fates, Jinn, Kenobi, vs. Darth Maul, VCR set, KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Hut, The Phantom Menace Game, Darth Sidious Hosts show, Darth Vader force ghost stops bye., Insert Cards.
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Emergency Episode of Tobacco Card Tuesday, Grabbed some random cards to show at work plus my desk!
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9/10 Emergency Episode of Tobacco Card Tuesday, Grabbed some random cards, to show at work plus my cards at my desk!, and other collectables there., Ty Cobb 2nd Kimball Champions, Andre Dawson, & Ichiro Allen & Ginter's, Christy Matthewson 2011 Before there was Topps, Macho Man Randy Savage, Bush vs. Gore, Crack the Codes, Lobos, Bulls, Blackhawks, Bears, Cubs, Led Zeppelin, Tool, Rush, Isotope...
Minor League Monday, 2015 Sacramento Rivercats set, 2016 Portland Pickles west coast stadiums story!
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9/9 Minor League Monday, 2015 Sacramento Rivercats set, 2016 Portland Pickles west coast stadiums story!, Andrew Susac, Ty Blach, Adam Duvall, Dinger
Vacation Card Pickups Highlights, Messi, + Found More Gypsy Queens Hits, Onyx Autos, Topps 206 Relic
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9/9 My Vacation Card Highlights New Pickups, SportKings Lionel Messi relic, Jerry West auto, Francisco Lindor relic, Nolan Ryan auto, more Tobacco Minis, some more Old Hits Found, Gypsy Queens Hits, 4 more Onyx Autos, Topps 206 Relic Fred McGriff,
1989 Topps Leaders, 4 packs 4 Hall of Famers, Larkin, McGriff, Winfield, Gwynn, + Stewart, Clemens
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9/7 (recorded) LCS 1989 Topps Leaders Minis, 4 packs 4 Hall of Famers, Larkin, McGriff, Winfield, Gwynn, Stewart, Clemens, fun set!
2022 Allen & Ginter Mini Framed Relic Hit, Francisco Lindor, & a Pack of 2013 Hometown Heroes Panini
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9/7 (recorded) 2022 Allen & Ginter Mini Framed Relic Hit, Francisco Lindor, & a Pack of 2013 Hometown Heroes Panini, Joe Torre, Brando Marsh Rookie Design Variant, George Kirby RC, Fun Bargain Bin Packs
Gypsy Queen LCS Bargain Bin Packs, 2016 & 2022's, Mini Tobacco Jackie Robinson, Missing Nameplate SP
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9/7 (recorded) Gypsy Queen LCS Bargain Bin Packs, 2016 & 2022's, Mini Tobacco Jackie Robinson, Missing Nameplate SP Jose Barrero, 2016 still had minis Awesome, Green exclusives Xander Bogaerts, fun rip, SportKings Hits Recap.
LIONEL MESSI HIT!! Holy Crap, Huge Relic of Soccer/Football GOAT, + Lee Kiefer Relic 2024 SportKings
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9/7 LIONEL MESSI EPIC RETAIL BLASTER PULL!!, LIONEL MESSI HIT!! Holy Crap, Huge Relic of Soccer/Football GOAT, Lee Kiefer Relic 2024 SportKings Volume 5, baseball legend Blue Variation Ed Delahanty, Barry Sanders, Hulk Hogan mini, Wade Boggs, and Tom Glavine x2!, recap SK hits, shoutouts!
SportKings Hobby Box Vol 4 vs. Vol 5 Blaster, 3 autos, 3 hobby exclusives 1 Premium Relic vs 1 Relic
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9/7 SportKings Hobby Box Volume 4 2023 vs. Volume 5 Blaster 2024, 3 autographs, 3 hobby base exclusives 1 Premium HOF Relic vs. Retail 1 Relic Surfer, few Retail exclusives, minis., Rich Gannon, Nolan Ryan, Kai Lenny, Jerry West, Carl Eller, Amy Van Dyken, Ric Flair, Victor Espinoza, Chris Mullin, Wade Boggs, Ozzie Smith, Walton, Liukin, Nehemiah, Dominique Wilkins, Wife says Hi!, Grade Hobby B...
Onyx Vintage, Nimbus, Premium, & Extended Autographs Awesome New Co With Great Names Corbin Carroll
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9/6 Onyx Vintage, Nimbus, Premium, & Extended Autographed Cards, On Card, Awesome New Card Company With Great Names on the Checklist, like Corbin Carroll, Jace Jung, Manuel Beltre, Cristian Hernandez, Heston Kjerstad, Mejia, Barefoot, Marco Luciano, Mick Abel, Felnin Celesten, Riley Greene, Jackson Chourio, CJ Abrams, and that's not even talking about the NBA set, Steph Curry, Giannis, etc.. so...
1988 Starting Lineup Talking Baseball set, of 40 All-Star's Oddish Board game cards, PC Andre Dawson
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9/5 1988 Starting Lineup Talking Baseball set, of 40 All-Star's Oddish Board game cards, picked up at San Francisco's closest LCS, Stars and my PC Andre Dawson, also, Nolan Ryan, Boggs, Strawberry, Mattingly, Ripken, Smith, Murray, Winfield, Raines, and many more., I needed the Dawson!, my opinion on calling cards Oddball, I'm fine with it and why!
SportKings Volume 5 Blasters part 2, two more relic hits, Baseball's Chili Davis, NFL's Andre Ware
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9/5 SportKings Volume 5 Blasters part 2, two more relic hits, Baseball's Chili Davis, NFL's Andre Ware, plus show other 2 picked up yesterday, and re-show all my other SportKings Hits, Walter Payton, Dennis Eckersley, Tim Duncan, etc.., Awesome cards, minis, exclusives, SP's
New SportKings Hits, My Brother, Me, China, LCS, Chinese Money, Souvenirs, San Fran Ballpark, Story!
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9/5 Two New Blasters of SportKings Vol. 5 Sp's, Minis, & Relic Hits, My Brother came in from China, stop at LCS, show some Chinese Money, Souvenirs, we went to San Francisco and showed him Oracle Ballpark, Chase Center, Pier 39, Bay Bridge, and the Story!, He was reported as a Missing Person and the Police pulled him aside at SFO Airport to see if he was okay., we think our other Brother though...
Psych! Gypsy Queen's, Oops found ME some More GQ cards to show, Variations, Inserts, Numbered, & Me!
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9/4 Psych! Gypsy Queen's, Oops found ME some More GQ cards to show, Variations, Inserts, Numbered, & Me! I make my latest debut! Clemente, Frank Thomas, The Big Hurt, more like, The Big Hunk!, Cubs, Isotopes Hats, Puig, etc..
Tobacco Tues. Topps 205 & T205 Hits, Mini Framed Autographs, Relics, SP's Back Variations, + Dawsons
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9/3 Tobacco Tues. Topps 205 & T205 Hits, Mini Framed Autographs, Relics, SP's Back Variations, Piedmont, Drum, Cycle, Sweet Caporal, Baseball Caramels, Sovereign Dawson I forgot to show see thumbnail, Dawson PC versions, Mickey Mantel, Musial, Bonds, Cabrera, Velez, Minis vs. Full size cards, My ADHD Inattentiveness explained why my videos ramble, Original T206, T205. Please Subscribe or send S...
Tobacco Card Tuesday, T206, 205, Topps 206, & Topps 205 Full Size vs. Tobacco Minis, Back Variations
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Tobacco Card Tuesday, T206, 205, Topps 206, & Topps 205 Full Size vs. Tobacco Minis, Back Variations
Minor League Monday 2013 Albuquerque Isotopes team set, Franklin Stubbs, Dee Gordon, Tony Gwynn Jr.!
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Minor League Monday 2013 Albuquerque Isotopes team set, Franklin Stubbs, Dee Gordon, Tony Gwynn Jr.!
Minor League/College Monday 2002 University of New Mexico Lobos Football cards, Happy Labor Day!
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Minor League/College Monday 2002 University of New Mexico Lobos Football cards, Happy Labor Day!
Gypsy Queen Full Sized SP Cards Finale! I reached the end of my Variations Don't Worry Minis to come
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Gypsy Queen Full Sized SP Cards Finale! I reached the end of my Variations Don't Worry Minis to come
Happy 54th Birthday Debbie Gibson! HS celebrity crush Autos, Collectibles, Pics & Story Meeting Her
มุมมอง 40วันที่ผ่านมา
Happy 54th Birthday Debbie Gibson! HS celebrity crush Autos, Collectibles, Pics & Story Meeting Her
Old Style Update Happy Birthday Debbie Gibson, Craker Jack, Diamond King T206, Old Judge, Turkey Red
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Old Style Update Happy Birthday Debbie Gibson, Craker Jack, Diamond King T206, Old Judge, Turkey Red
Cracker Jack Topps 2004 non-food Hobby set vs. Food CJ cards, Diamond Kings remaining SP's & Inserts
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Cracker Jack Topps 2004 non-food Hobby set vs. Food CJ cards, Diamond Kings remaining SP's & Inserts
2021 Diamond Kings vs. 2023 Allen & Ginter & Space Jam New Legacy LaBron James, Bugs, Acuna Foil SP!
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2021 Diamond Kings vs. 2023 Allen & Ginter & Space Jam New Legacy LaBron James, Bugs, Acuna Foil SP!
Gypsy Queen Tobacco Thursday Super Showing Last SPs, Inserts, #'ed Cards, Exclusives, Rapid Showing
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Gypsy Queen Tobacco Thursday Super Showing Last SPs, Inserts, #'ed Cards, Exclusives, Rapid Showing
Huge Autograph HOF Card 2013 Cooperstown Baseball part 2, , best auto you could pull, #'ed 7/10 Ryan
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Huge Autograph HOF Card 2013 Cooperstown Baseball part 2, , best auto you could pull, #'ed 7/10 Ryan
2013 Cooperstown Baseball Hobby Box # 1, Colgan Discs, pulled Wood Lumberjacks, Colored Shard SP's
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2013 Cooperstown Baseball Hobby Box # 1, Colgan Discs, pulled Wood Lumberjacks, Colored Shard SP's
Two Topps 2021 Heritage High Number Hobby Packs, vs. 2023 Allen & Ginter retail pack World Series SP
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Two Topps 2021 Heritage High Number Hobby Packs, vs. 2023 Allen & Ginter retail pack World Series SP
2020 Diamond Kings Hobby Box Break, 2 Hits, Dual Relic Auto, 1 Relic both Dodgers, Ozzie Smith 27/49
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2020 Diamond Kings Hobby Box Break, 2 Hits, Dual Relic Auto, 1 Relic both Dodgers, Ozzie Smith 27/49
Face Off Topps Heritage Packs 2021-24, vs. 23 Ginter, Diamond Kings, & Ripped Off in Gypsy Queen see
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Face Off Topps Heritage Packs 2021-24, vs. 23 Ginter, Diamond Kings, & Ripped Off in Gypsy Queen see
Topps Turkey Red Tobacco Card Tuesday Times Two Ta Da! 2005-2020 Baseball & NBA, SP's, Autos, Relic
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Topps Turkey Red Tobacco Card Tuesday Times Two Ta Da! 2005-2020 Baseball & NBA, SP's, Autos, Relic
Carl Eller! Gotta hit those bargain bins when I go to NY in December.
Good stuff bud 👍 Thanks for sharing. Have a good week!
That was a sweet Trout!
Cool Topps tobacco cards. Like the Cobb Kimblel one. Nice Obak
Thanks Peter!
Cool Trout OBAK cards new and old. I do like some of the mini in Ginter and Gypsy Queen. Thanks for sharing.
I dig them. Love minis.
Great stuff, thanks for sharing
Thanks for saying, hey I'm trying to get to 200 subs by my 1 year anniversary on 9/23 and do a contest, do you have any subs you can send my way? I need 22 more. Thanks Orlando. Rob
It's a 77 card set and Andre Dawson is card #3.
Thanks! I dig them, did you see the Alvin Davis?
These are sooo cool! The pennant makes the whole box worth it to me! Thanks for sharing these!
I totally agree! Love the Pennant's I have more when I get em' all together I'll show them. I have like 5 or 6. You know anyone who can Sub? So I can reach 200 subs by 9/23. Send them over. I wanna do a contest if I reach that goal.
Awesome Messi hit! Congrats!
TY couldn't believe it, but I was so tired I couldn't get super Hyped. LOL
The Albuquerque hat is nice. Neat minor league cards. I would collect Camden Riversharks who are defunct since 2016 or 2015. My favorite place to go to watch a game.
Awesome video! Always down to see some mini's! Framed mini relics are really cool!
Yes they are! Love MFR MFAutos.
Hey Rob- I see we have more than our names and our love for card collecting in common- we both tape our videos while sitting on our couch! Thanks for sharing and Good collecting 👍❤️
I wonder if I'd sound normal not lounging doing videos. But I'm TO MUCH OF A COUCH POTATO to try!!! HAHA LOL!!! Noooooowwwwww that was pee your pants funny! Alien that was spitting milk out the nose funny too.
@@OldStyleClassicsBaseball-cd3tm highest compliment I’ve received/ thanks Rob
Only nerds broadcast from their couch🤪
exactly haha
Guilty as charged, but I takes one to know one huh? LOL
Missing name plate- interesting. Nice Jackie. Love the Carl Eller! Purple people eaters! Thanks for sharing and Good Collecting👍❤️
Dude thanks, if you want some cards I need your address. I don't think I have an extra Hogan mini but I have the full sized one's!
@@OldStyleClassicsBaseball-cd3tm very generous of you/ what’s your email so I can send my address to you?
I did a video on Babe Didrikson recently- check it out. Glad my friend UNC 23 subbed to your channel. He’s got one of the best channels on TH-cam. Thanks for the shoutout, glad you liked the franchise, Nice Hogan, that would be nice to have. Feel free to send me the Messi as well. Great pull! Sports Kings has been very good to you. Thanks for sharing and Good Collecting 👍❤️
Did and Done Dug It!
I’m digging that Cubs hat!
I like it too but never wear it, wish the crown was smaller. Thanks
New Subscriber (175) recommended by my buddy Rob at Commenting Collector! Best of luck on your TH-cam journey. I'll be tuning in. Love the on card autograph with the Sports Kings!
Thanks for the Sub getting closer to 200 with your help. Rob's a good guy and funny! Yeah those were my first SportKings auto's not bad, Jerry West is Good, the other's are neat at least to have. They put out some awesome relics too.
These are intriguing cards. One of my LCS's has blasters of these, but I haven't grabbed one yet. Thanks for sharing these!
I like em', fun and still affordable. Neat relics.
You should pick one up I just pulled a Lionel Messi relic from a blaster!! Wow!
@@OldStyleClassicsBaseball-cd3tm awesome!!!
Omg, he's no longer a hand model! Good to see the face behind the voice! I'm in the food industry and Love the vintage candy, myself, I know exactly about those bars you were referring ot. Bit O Honey are geezer pleasers! Thanks for sharing and Good Collecting👍👍💗💗
Sad they just shut down that Candy Co. Last week. I need to get to 200 subs in next 2weeks, send some people my way. 25 to go. Thanks bud!
I really like those SportKings, Rob! Thanks for introducing them to me. Thanks for sharing and Good Collecting👍👍💗💗
Watch my next one, I found a Hobby Box lets see what cool we get from that!
What are the prices per pack?
$20 per Blaster. TY
Great episode. That Heritage mini was really cool! Thanks for the shoutout as well!
No problem thanks for commenting
Good to see Rob’s feminine side! J/K nice share. That mix tape concert sounded fun. I can’t believe you cheated on her and saw Tiffany! Didn’t realize she was in Ghostbusters- I’ll have to look for it! Sweet cards. You should change your channel name to “the body remembers”lol you got to meet and greet her-that’s wonderful! 👍❤️
Ha thanks I was choked up wanting to see her so bad for so long. It was fun seeing her both times, but the second was way better. Mixtape was cool too, and it was just down the street.
Very kind and generous! Lucky fella!! Im subbed but am paying better attention, yes Sir!! Great show.
Thank you for saying, the winner didn't seem to impressed. Coming up on a year so keep your eyes peeled gotta come up with something. I know I put out a lot of long videos, but it'd take me 20 years to show all I want. LOL
Think of the Chris Sale card as an error card!🙂
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Who's Brewery? Milwaukie?
Cool stuff bud 👍 Thanks for sharing 👊
TY for always checking my stuff out.
Even the checklist card is cool! Nice cards, specially the Cole Hamels. And I thought the Belliard card was Rafael :). I have a 2020 Ohtani in that style, wish it had "Turkey Red" text, and the texture.
The 2020's are still cool especially the Chromes. I love TR maybe I'll order a hobby box someday. I thought the checklist and horizontal ones were cool. TY Diver
I like the minor league Monday alliteration! Thanks for the shout out. You’re a content creating machine- glad to see your channel continuing to grow. If my comments are to long -feel free to read them quicker! Thanks for sharing- I’m surprised the minor league cards don’t get more love since they are their true rookies if you think about it! James May is great- love the reference! I’ll watch and enjoy anything James May! I hope you and Mrs Old Style gave a great day 👍❤️
Ha that's funny stuff!! I hope I don't read as slow as I talk. Loved Top Gear. Tobacco Tuesday next alliteration!!! Thanks Mister Commenter! LOL
Those 2013 wood cards are fantastic! Never seen them before. Thank you so much for sharing these!
I know I love them, one of the reasons I kept buying them. TY
Cool enough to see the Topps 205 modern cards but then you show the originals- wow! A 2.5 on the triple folder, that’s great! That’s Yankee and Reds Star Paul O’Neil on the card. Thanks for sharing and Good Collecting 👍❤️
Seinfeld's Paul O'Neil that's cool it def looks like him! Thanks for the info. Yeah I got lucky finding all those OSCBBC's Cubs! How you doing? Mrs. OSCBBC says Hi.
@@OldStyleClassicsBaseball-cd3tm doing well, thanks- just put out a couple of shorts and hopefully a regular video soon. Hi back to the Mrs!
Fun video! I grabbed a box of the 2021 206'. Haven't opened them yet. Your video has me eager to bust it open.
Yeah I dig the newer Topps 206 exclusives, but I never get to get any because they sell out fast. I end up buying my Dawson's of eBay. I'd prefer to open my own though. Awesome variation backs.
Thanks so much for the shout out! Like you I really love the vintage themed modern cards. It's really what got me back into the hobby. The minis are my favorites. Keep sharing great videos man!
Awesome, great to finally here someone else who digs these kinda cards. TY Birds of a Feather Flock Together!! Keep Watching more to come and plenty on my old videos. I started this channel because no one else seemed to dig this stuff as much. Thanks
love the Cooperstown auto's, good way to get some of those umpires...i need to look into those...great vid homie
Thank you for sharing the love of collecting! Really appreciate your passion for our cardmunity!
Thank you for your kind words. Send other people my way if you know anyone who'd like my stuff. Kind of stalled out on Subs. Cheers Bud.
Hey Rob, LIke the Sharapova and Helmuth cards a lot. Is Phil for sale? Nice that Mrs. Rob made an appearance! Take care and Good Collecting 👍👍💗💗
Hey there, I don't think I'd want to part ways with the Phil card just because it was my first Goodwin Auto. I've seen him on eBay same card for cheap if you really want one. I could give you a handful of Maria's if you'd like. I got dupes on some. Thanks Rob Rob lol
@@OldStyleClassicsBaseball-cd3tm I understand- sure that would be great, and I'll return the favor. Who would you like back?
Go Topes!
Ya Buddy!
Got you locked in bro…I like gypsy queen but Diamond kings does a great job with the small details like their photography and airbrush jobs due to the lack of licensing….
Agreed, I used to love DKing's until they stopped doing tobacco minis, the ones they did were Awesome! Patch relic minis just epic. I used to get a bunch of hits from Panini in retail and last 4 ish years nothing. Poor Panini, Topps has to much control IMO. Thanks for joining, hope you dig the stuff.
The vendors at this show were all so nice
Just curious are the vendors the sellers or the people who set up the show? Forgive my ignorance I'm just a dude who sowed up to buy. Everyone seemed super cool.
Nice stuff bud 👍 Thanks for sharing 👊
Really great looking cards there. Love the Dawson cards. Thanks for sharing!
Thank You for chiming in and watching!!
Nice cards! Thank you for sharing! New to the channel
Awesome thanks for watching.
Still loving the gypsy queen. I wish they were still putting them out. I have that Kris Bryant mini. I also have every Jake Arietta gypsy queen I could find. All the colors and minis too
That's awesome we love Jake around here!
So much good stuff. Man I love those Ichiro Mini's!!
Gotta Love Itchiro LOL! Ichiro is awesome, and I love mini Tobacco cards! Thanks, I got to get me a Ichiro RC! Thanks for watching hope you Sub!
Those Sliding Stars cards are pretty good, even has Lou Brock! The Bazooka back too. I remember the Greg Kihn Band and The Honeydrippers (Sea of Love).
Yeah love Robert Plant my Fav. singer, met him and got autos, Plus he's going to be here next week too. GQ was fun.
I miss Gypsy Queen, wish theyd bring it back! Awesome autos, thanks for sharing and have a great weekend!
Thanks
That Jo Adell card is sweet.
It's neat
Like #1 yeah boy🎉You’re a video creating machine- sorry I can’t keep up with all of them! Is this episode like a special edition of Punky Brewster. Love the Hawk, drank my fair share of OS back in the day/ so cool. Someday I’ll show my Wrigley field giveaways. Thanks for sharing and Good Collecting 👍❤️
I know so many cards and not enough time! Thanks.
Short prints for 2021 and 2023 would be numbered from 400 to 500, while 2024 anything 100 and under would be the short print.
I can't believe Dana Bash still publicly shows her face after her epic debate failure. She has zero credibility as a journalist if she refuses to fact check Trump or ask follow obvious follow-up questions at the biggest moment in her career. Utter failure.