would someone like to explain to me what's going on, or a website/article that fully explains this; it's strange, unique, bizarre and fascinating all at the same time
@Parvenu333 that's silly. Some music is entertainment for mass consumption, some isn't. it's incredibly important that musicians enjoy what they 're doing as these musicians are.
I play cobra all the time, but I would have to agree with you...it's not the real thing unless it's Zorn related. I still do it though and it's a lot of fun...but it's definitely "unofficial cobra."
dude me a bass player 2 trombone players a sax player a drummer a piano player and a djembe player played cobra the other day. it was a life changing event. if you think all this is random sloppiness then you should learn the game it is a complex yet fun as hell game. it is like controlled chaos
Somewhat reliable guide: Nicolas Collins (sample-triggering trombone), David Shea (turntables,) Matthew Ostrowski (synthesizer), (maybe Bob James on tapes), Chris Cochrane (cream-colored Strat), David Henderson (double-neck guitar), Wayne Krantz (Ibanez), Guy Yarden (violin), Zeena Parkins (harp), Tim Spelios (drums), Evan Gallagher (keyboards, including Ace-Tone organ, as used in early Pere Ubu, Contortions, and Red Dark Sweet). No Arto. See more flum music at bugmelter.blogspot...
for not knowing music thats a interesting idea. the part about battling for control is already there. and i have heard of xu feng and that was awesome!
huh, i find this interesting and i agreed with what you said, but on a album its really hard to listen too. im listen to alot of zorn but without the image this sounds like structured noise which i think Zorn is trying to get at. you said it should involve sampling and a narritive to make it a actual music process.
I'm doing this with my high school jazz band. They absolutely love it. I am finding that it develops their confidence in expressing themselves. It also gives them the ability to experiment with new sounds, communicate with each other through music, and contribute to the composition of new music!
Zorn's the ring master. The cards are used as triggers. All the musiacians are free to call on a person or persons to freely improvise on a particular section. Once a new card is raised, the music gets passed around to whoever is volunteering.
I cant stand zorns "game pieces" just listening but i could watch all of them!
I’ve seen Zorn both play and prompt Cobra. My wife hates his music, but loved watching Cobra.
John Zorn is performing Cobra at the next Big Ears Festival as part of his 70th birthday celebration. All-star lineup.
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THE BEST!
hey, can someone explain to me what this guy has on his trombone? and are the full Cobra rules available somewhere? thanks.
would someone like to explain to me what's going on, or a website/article that fully explains this; it's strange, unique, bizarre and fascinating all at the same time
www2.ak.tu-berlin.de › ...PDF Some Notes on John Zorn's Cobra
@Parvenu333 Music is not only a social phenomenon, and anyway, some people hear this music and love it to bits. I am one of those people. Don't hate!
@mjmatthewjohnstone you said it man!
@Parvenu333 that's silly. Some music is entertainment for mass consumption, some isn't. it's incredibly important that musicians enjoy what they 're doing as these musicians are.
my comment @ Thethunderboy
I play cobra all the time, but I would have to agree with you...it's not the real thing unless it's Zorn related. I still do it though and it's a lot of fun...but it's definitely "unofficial cobra."
Sometimes "unofficial cobras" are the best!
that is like saying if BB King Didn't play it then it isn't blues. So yeah. I played cobra. so yeah......Have a Nice Day.
yeah. in my opinion cobra is the best way to learn other peoples style before you go straight to playing songs with them.
These people are having more fun playing this music than just about anyone else on the planet.
dude me a bass player 2 trombone players a sax player a drummer a piano player and a djembe player played cobra the other day. it was a life changing event. if you think all this is random sloppiness then you should learn the game it is a complex yet fun as hell game. it is like controlled chaos
Yes, he would be good at selling used cars.
cool
KISS
:)))))) yes it does!amazing.
Somewhat reliable guide: Nicolas Collins (sample-triggering trombone), David Shea (turntables,) Matthew Ostrowski (synthesizer), (maybe Bob James on tapes), Chris Cochrane (cream-colored Strat), David Henderson (double-neck guitar), Wayne Krantz (Ibanez), Guy Yarden (violin), Zeena Parkins (harp), Tim Spelios (drums), Evan Gallagher (keyboards, including Ace-Tone organ, as used in early Pere Ubu, Contortions, and Red Dark Sweet). No Arto. See more flum music at bugmelter.blogspot...
i think that is KRAMER, but not 100% on that 1, my freind does agree w/t me though
yes he is
looks like a madhouse in there :D
Is the guitarist with the red Ibanez Wayne Krantz?!?! If not, he really looks like him.
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for not knowing music thats a interesting idea. the part about battling for control is already there. and i have heard of xu feng and that was awesome!
huh, i find this interesting and i agreed with what you said, but on a album its really hard to listen too. im listen to alot of zorn but without the image this sounds like structured noise which i think Zorn is trying to get at. you said it should involve sampling and a narritive to make it a actual music process.
either way i get what youre saying and it could sound great on a album and not just a live performance. it could sound really interesting.
se paso, idolo, puta la wea loka!!!
It simply is what you heard in it. Or want to hear in it.
Hail John Zorn (L)
I saw Cobra in '93 in Seattle. It was simultaneously amazing, confusing and inspiring.
I'm doing this with my high school jazz band. They absolutely love it. I am finding that it develops their confidence in expressing themselves. It also gives them the ability to experiment with new sounds, communicate with each other through music, and contribute to the composition of new music!
Is that Wayne Krantz on the red Ibanez?
There is something to be said about a piece of music in which you see someone playing a guitar case. This looks like so much fun.
Better than anything in the top 50 - ESPECIALLY now.
Pathetic, huh? So how many grants from the MacArthur Fellowship have you won?
Zorn's the ring master. The cards are used as triggers. All the musiacians are free to call on a person or persons to freely improvise on a particular section. Once a new card is raised, the music gets passed around to whoever is volunteering.
what is video and is there more and how do you get it?
Where can i buy this kind of video of zorn?