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Murray Bookchin on the immorality of the Left (1986)
Bookchin takes to task the reprehensible actions, tendencies and viewpoints of the Left in 1986 regarding the brutalization of Nicaragua's Miskito Indians by the Sandinista (FSLN) movement.
Interviewed by Dan Higgins in Burlington, Vermont, 1986. Video courtesy of Channel 17/Town Meeting TV.
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Bookchin laments the fascination with direct action over and above the need to do dedicated local work. "Cultural terrorism led to nowhere: it was drift, directionless." He also stresses the need to make an anticapitalist message accessible to people, to not speak in slogans and foreign phrases. The Situationist's obsession with workers.
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Bookchin discusses the misappraisal of capitalism's virility in light of the Second World War, as Trotksy had suggested it might be. He continues to discuss the Old Left in the USA. Interviewed by Doug Morris, October 18-24, 1993, Burlington, VT, USA.
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  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    An excellent-and profound-point about capitalism now penetrating into society!!!! Thank you, Murray!

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No way americans can ever produce a true democracy!!!!!

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is the short coming of "education " without a vision-brought "down", so to speak, to what everyday life-in every life domain (politics, economics, education/scools, family life, community life, ...) might look like in a true democracy. I believe that is why the switch from so-called "class conscious labor/proletariat" to "middle-class civil servants" occured; it lacked the depth of a believed in vision that would give a concrete (potential) reality to abstract theory.

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bookchin smeared and dismissed Mumford (among other names) as "middle class hypocrates" virtually dismissing all of Mumford's work and thought"!!!!!! Clearly Bookchin is completely unaware of his authoritarianism because it a feature of his character, yet believes he disposedof/rooted out this feature years back-by a simple rejection and abandonment of (Stalin) communism and his growing committment to "Anarchism"! A childish wish--But nothing more. He has shown this character feature likewise when he wholly dismissed the environmentalists as not really being the same because this individual or that individual--or because of some action taken did not conform to his conceptions about how truely committed environmentalists OUGHT to think and act. Bookchin does this several times with other individuals, groups, and movements. As wide-sweeping his thinking is on many interrelated subjects, as experienced he is with certain prominently figured individuals, groups, and movements--and as well read as he appears to be on all this--he oversimplified all the subjects he discussed. In addition, I can't help but suspect that Bookchin does fails to give credit to those thinkers who had deeply influenced his own thinking, it's direction, and it's influence on his behavior; case in point--Lewis Mumford and his work and published book on cities--another authoritarian hypocracy typical of his authoritarian character trait.

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bookchin failed to answer the question of what to DO with power once it is seized!!!!

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why was there no revolution progressing from the 1930's unions? My guess-one can only get so far with americans- in general; bread and circuses/material gains?

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cornell West did the same thing with the Green Party and Jill Stein in 2024 as the blacks did in '68 at Colombia University--cannot ever be trusted.

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't help but notice how bookchin's nuclear war narrative was given short shrift as he began talking at length about civil rights!

  • @TtJjTenari
    @TtJjTenari 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    15:52

  • @CemeteryCottagesystem
    @CemeteryCottagesystem 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love this I have been learning gaelic work songs and boat songs here in scotland. same thing thank you bookchin

  • @nachnahmevornahme9574
    @nachnahmevornahme9574 ปีที่แล้ว

    10 Years after thes speech the peoples of Nort- and east-syria are stil building democratic confederalism and resist brutal attacks of the turkish state. The kurdish movement is spreading bookchins and öcalans ideas all arount the globe. In This moment the first steps to a democratic world confederalism are made. ✌

  • @AudioPervert1
    @AudioPervert1 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is so cool... chilling with students talking about how nasty the elite are and were. Just like Greece in 300BCE... Just kidding. Whatever he wanted, America turned out the other way around. Bookchin like any good anarchist was a rockstar.

  • @AudioPervert1
    @AudioPervert1 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 06:06 he says "so ya like that answere.. "

  • @AudioPervert1
    @AudioPervert1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic guy. That is why people in America ignored him, worse drove him out of ecology. The same ecology which now serves economics and energy. Murray Bookchin Rocks!! Even Today

  • @s1g1tal
    @s1g1tal ปีที่แล้ว

    1:29:59

  • @jayburton1387
    @jayburton1387 ปีที่แล้ว

    This really speaks a lot on things that went on to happen even more. Very important points.

  • @jayburton1387
    @jayburton1387 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Wonderful talk!

  • @jayburton1387
    @jayburton1387 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. What a brilliant man. I would love to meet and speak with people who value these ideas...how do we find each other???

  • @micheleventuroni2080
    @micheleventuroni2080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comrade Bookchin ❤

  • @micheleventuroni2080
    @micheleventuroni2080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eternal gloria to comrade Bookchin ✊

  • @mausegetlit363
    @mausegetlit363 ปีที่แล้ว

    Murray Bookchin was the greatest thinker of the 20th century

  • @PM-ke9ry
    @PM-ke9ry ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for uploading these videos.

  • @muzwot9603
    @muzwot9603 ปีที่แล้ว

    The interviewer is bordering on being plain a-hole

  • @TheNoblot
    @TheNoblot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Tower Of Babel/ President Putin Russia: The impossibility of communication is a language problem, The West as is called does not understand you, they are deft to your words and perceive something that is not what you say. A similar situation as the tower of Babel & the confusion of the languages. One example is Jesus on the cross, the Jews his people did not understood him at all, and from the merchants market to his crucifixion, the result was the Collapse of Israel & the end of the Roman Empire. Jesus did ask for his father to come to the rescue. Nothing happen at that particular moment. However 70 years later Israel disappeared & it is still nowhere, today is a sort of holly disorder with the logos of terrorism & antisemitism on a daily basis . The same took place to the Roman Empire it became what is called the Christian Empire. How this took place? For the Jewish you can say was the refusal of the Leaders of Israel to accept Jesus to understand his language & the Rabbis refuse to change their own privileged economical position that the Roman Empire gave them. That refusal was a lack of communication if you like. Today you are facing the same dilemma with Zalesnki the New Jewish Messiah & Kiev the Jerusalem in construction; On the other side you got The NATO EU WASHINGTON realm who are unable to understand the language of RUSSIA & CHINA. On what Power is concern it is not America the most powerful nation in history, it is a system, unfortunately that question will remain unanswered. You got Brennus & the sword as you have Jesus & the market, as you have Romulus & Remus. That is as much history will tell. In 2022 the labyrinth is the Nuclear weapons roach motel “you get in but you can not get out” Cells and particles can communicate however if you do not understand their language it is no different than the tower of babel & the confusion of the languages .🤔

  • @redmotherfive
    @redmotherfive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh, to have lived in the days before, “next slide please.”

  • @redmotherfive
    @redmotherfive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Bookchin but have a critique: did he realized how small it made him seem to rag on Fuller so much? (He did so in his writings as well as here.) He was obviously envious of Fuller's 'success' and notoriety. You'd think a man with such great ideas would have had more class and tact.

    • @mausegetlit363
      @mausegetlit363 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't know but Murray bookchin in terms of popularity and real world impact is way more accomplished than a "fuller" in the year 2023. That alone should tell you if he was wrong in his remarks or not

  • @NineteenthandLamont
    @NineteenthandLamont 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love bookchin, and his utopian approach certainly offers a guiding light, but his dismissiveness towards Marx in this dialogue is so naive. How does he assume to dissemble capitalist hegemony and develop into anarcho-utopia?

    • @saturngenesis1306
      @saturngenesis1306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He 'assumes to' do so by serving as its grave-digger; its self-inflicted wounds await our salt. We've already begun to see the weakness of hierarchies, their brittle rigidities cracked & crumbled by networks of horizontal arrangements. Concentrated decision-making power simply doesn't work; it never did, of course, but because of new technologies & the now indomitable percolations of information, the State's thin façade of legitimacy has chipped & tarnished. Any time you flout its impediments to commercial interchange & voluntary synergy, or simply avoid its reach, you're coursing through its veins & thwarting its power.

    • @saturngenesis1306
      @saturngenesis1306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frankly, Marx just invites the most authoritarian adulation & preaches the most inane banalities. His writing is studded with unwarranted assumptions about the role of technical imperatives in economic centralization. He had an unwitting belief in the class-neutral, positive-sum virtues of 'economies of scale,' of ongoing cartelization as the 'progressive' penultimate step to Socialism, all 'for the good.' He lionized whatever sounded like 'The New Industrial State' & contemptuously dismissed calls for distributive ownership & decentralism as romantic throwbacks to a 19th century idyll.

  • @dangerousideas5356
    @dangerousideas5356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the beginning point is a sort of vague series of references to both Aldo Leopold ("thinking like a mountain") and a then-recent book called Thinking Like a Mountain: Towards a Council of All Beings. a general attempt at a debunk of a deep ecology line.

  • @revoltensolution
    @revoltensolution 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If someone adds SUB, it's possible to prepare subtitles for other languages.

  • @scharb
    @scharb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    37:30 shots fired, Bernie destroyed

  • @scharb
    @scharb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Maybe I’m being idiotic or ethical today”

  • @scharb
    @scharb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He answers challenging questions directly and forthrightly. He presents alternative courses of action to accompany his well-reasoned criticisms. He is the real most interesting man in the world.

  • @huffrya0
    @huffrya0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time he’s about to say some fire shit the video goes silent for five seconds

  • @robertburatt
    @robertburatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But they are free to make decisions! How else can any change come about ? Without great sacrifice~which at this point~is not only required but necessary.

  • @robertburatt
    @robertburatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The main treason I think that "worker's co~ops" remain capitalistic is because the term itself represents a capital commodity but in a reverse dichtomy: "liabilities" turn into "assets".

  • @robertburatt
    @robertburatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The criminalization of the victim who attempts to defend his/her self~quintessentially "american " !!!!!!

  • @robertburatt
    @robertburatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The auto workers migration into the suburbs and living the middle class life guaranteed M'carythism~and not the other way around. MURRAY.

  • @robertburatt
    @robertburatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just short of 2% of views to "likes" reminds me of the extremely low percentage of voters who came out for Nader in both his presidential nomination bids~and not despite of the clarity of his platforms but BECAUSE of them! We see that things have only got much worse with the election~and legacy~of Trump as "president ". And we can now look forward to the deliberate, willful, and out in the open subversion of even the right to vote! americans~Hah!!!!

  • @robertburatt
    @robertburatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same with the "Occupy" movement: factional splitting off with no coordination nor any comprehensive vision. Fertile soil for co~optation by the capitalist system. Same today

  • @robertburatt
    @robertburatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see two critical questions that spills into many of Bookchin's other TH-cam video presentations~for example "communitarianism". 1. WHY did Walther Reuther settle for enhanced benefits~tied to enhanced labor productivity ("class collaboration") instead of pursuing "class warfare" that might have resulted in very different outcomes? 2. WHY did the auto workers (labor) also settle for Reuther's settlement with management?

  • @robertburatt
    @robertburatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see two critical questions that spills into many of Bookchin's TH-cam video presentations, such as on "communitarianism". 1. WHY did Walther Reuther settle for enhanced benefits~tied to enhanced labor productivity ("class collaboration")? 2. WHY did the auto workers (labor) also settle for Reuther's settlement with management?

  • @PvtPooter
    @PvtPooter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is it in black and white if its 1986?

  • @endTHEhegemony_Today
    @endTHEhegemony_Today 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its so cute watching them mess with the slide projector at around 1:02:00 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 He is both so patient and impatient at the same time 😆

    • @Peace2051
      @Peace2051 ปีที่แล้ว

      And isn't it amazing that he knew so much, saw so clearly even back in the "slide projector era" almost a third of a century ago. What opportunities have been lost!

  • @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
    @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So he wants a bunch of tribes... Like Afghanistan I guess... This assumption would assume everyone agrees with you totally (or by force) and won't offer another way by conversation or by force. It also requires living off a more well off society you parasite from to buy your goods or give you the wealth of their labor.

  • @MrOhfuckyougod
    @MrOhfuckyougod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are dozens of us!

  • @delaney6066
    @delaney6066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for these uploads. I just discovered Murray Bookchin and the possibilities he shined light on. How crazy is it that his ideas were/are seen as radical? People are waking up though. There is still hope. .

  • @delaney6066
    @delaney6066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:35

  • @dangerousideas5356
    @dangerousideas5356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i thought this said "immortality" ;( no mr.bookchin nooo ;(

  • @Kiyarose3999
    @Kiyarose3999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Land is Ours! ✊🏽🌎

  • @Kiyarose3999
    @Kiyarose3999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our Land, against Cities, that destroy our connection to land, and the Land itself!