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Very different cars but a lovely upgrade that

Great to hear! How are you getting on with it?!

​@@Lloydtriescarsnot so bad so far, no expensive bills yet 🤞. Currently away at paint to tidy a few little imperfections in the paint. Can't wait to get it back.

@@VWcartel lovely stuff! Sounds like you’re giving it the love it wants!

My pleasure, thanks for watching!

I promise I will get a new mic soon, but I can’t confirm if I will or won’t still continue to replicate car noises 😂😂

Sorry mate! 😂

🙏🏻

Does not suprise me these days with all the crash safety stuff!

What kind of driving do you do?! If you live out in the countryside, go for a manual, DCT if you are going to commute in it. Both are great options though.

What’s the main differences between the two?

Might as well lean on it abit or else I may as well drive a 218i 😀

So true, ***urrgghhh** ***cough cough shmee cough cough***

Felt the urge to comment the same. Finally someone who knows how to drive! Even more impressive on these narrow UK roads.

@@dafaqking got to test it out haven’t you 😂

I can see why!

Thank you!

As long as you’re happy!

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I didn’t know about the numbers, I should’ve mentioned that actually.

@@Lloydtriescars yeah BMW originally were making 2200 units to be sold world wide but then actually only made 2000units world wide, so it made it more difficult for people to get one. Thankfully being a great customer at Sytners I paid my 10K deposit, spaced a car & got one…. Had to sign a disclaimer to say I wouldn’t sell it within the first year but I did sell 18 months later & made 35K profit on the car, think the prices have dropped now tho.🤔

In which source does it say 1000? I know 2200

Thank you very much! I’ll buy a proper DJI mic at some point, but they’re a load of money. Deffo need it to though. The nice thing about the iPhone is at least it captures a good amount of engine noise through to the cabin! That’s a positive I guess 😂

Thanks so much! I’ve done a few miles in these!

Thanks so much! Really appreciate it! It’s a Heuer Classic Calbre 17! 😀

They are!

Cool

Yeah that V8 is absolutely beautiful. Great car. Jealous of you 👍🏻

Thank you mate 🙏🏻

This is an excellent comment. Very well said, I didn’t know it wasn’t VAT qualifying. You have to ask yourself, would you rather a brand new Ineos of a 2 year old Defender? I think I know what I’d prefer.

@@Lloydtriescars Ineos have only just announced and made available to order their first VAT and tax efficient blind van two seater version of Grenadier. The ones sold up ‘till now certainly have NOT qualified. The advertise the model you featured and the original two seater as “certified commercial” but that only applied to the DVLA, not HMRC, which limits their speed limits on most roads to 10mph less than ‘normal’ and applies a standard £335 road tax. So that claim of theirs is highly deceptive to say the least.

Absolutely, clutches are expensive, no doubt but a vantage with a nice fresh clutch is lovely!

AMEN brother. That’s absolutely bang on. I have a knackered old 205 GTi that’s got 90bhhp at best and to date it’s the best car I’ve ever driven.

Perhaps the camera didn’t give the best impression, but I was turning the wheel a good 20 degrees from the top dead centre quickly and it didn’t venture out of the lane I was in. This could be an issue for any quick avoidance needed. Thought I’d demonstrate it that’s all! 😀👍🏻

Again, totally understand it would be a mighty off-roader! But most cars like this in the UK will be used as predominantly road vehicles. It’s also a tough to arrange a big off-road trip in the UK and terrain isn’t that available to us that won’t get you in trouble with local farmers or police. 😂

@@Lloydtriescars Yes, that is exactly why we have to accept it is not for everyone and often a very poor choice. Doesn't mean those people are wrong. Just that we all like something different. Reason why there are lots of different options for wine, women and song.

Good to hear from someone in the UK. I really didn’t know if your powdered wigs would give you enough headroom, or maybe the lace cuffs would get caught in the center diff lock control arm. Do the silk pantaloons slide on the leather upholstery? How is the foot-well “hump” when you’re wearing heels? All kidding aside, a lot of the UK reviews seem to be very much looking for a SUV experience (evo and Harry’s being 2 good examples) - and when Ineos does pressers, it seems that the Highlands are kind of more the natural habitat for the Grenadier. There might simply not be a lot of Dave’s in the UK. I don’t know - when I go, it’s just for business in London, so I don’t know how much opportunity you guys have to stretch the Grenadier’s legs, even though it is basically an advertisement on wheels for all things British.

@@ElderStatesman-pi3lc Luckily I am in a little place called Toogoom, in Queensland, Australia. www.google.com.au/maps/place/Toogoom+QLD+4655/@-25.1168933,152.4832403,88994m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x6beb78fc31c431ef:0x400eef17f20ee00!8m2!3d-25.2561515!4d152.6904396!16s%2Fg%2F11bxfgs_4s?entry=ttu And this is my Grenadier. th-cam.com/users/shortsrLlLfAcESmM

I think you have to remember that in the UK (a fairly small island if you’ve heard of it), there’s a lot of people and not much need for wild off-roading. So most of these things will never step foot off-road. I’d like to do a review of one off-road for sure but when you’re reviewing someone else’s car it’s hard to convince them to let you batter it up and down mountains. So have to settle for road reviews which I’m sure you can understand. 😀👍🏻

@@LloydtriescarsI miiiiiiiiiight have heard of it - aren’t those the guys Mel Gibson beat in the American War for Independence? I get your point (insert giant screaming bald eagle with Burt Reynolds in a cowboy hat on its back, once again establishing the supremacy of USA, USA, USA) - but you have to admit that then you’re not reviewing the Grenadier qua Grenadier - you’re reviewing it as something it’s not intended to be or do. I bought it, and Bryan, and Dave because we are man-children who bought the closest street legal equivalent to a tank, with glorious buttons, virtually limitless off-road capabilities, and all of that packaged in something remarkably comfortable and dependable. So it’s fair to warn the bankers and soccer moms, just so they are aware of the trade-offs - but let’s not pretend that those things are defects or design flaws, or that Ineos should even give a crap. Or maybe your review criteria is just a painful reminder to buyers in the UK that really a moped is sufficient for their off-roading needs. If you don’t mind, there are 3 giant bald eagles waiting for me, Bryan and Dave for a party in the remote wilderness to go honor the memory of Burt Reynolds. At least until our wives say we have to come back inside. Dave - I’m making you an honorary ‘Merican - Australia counts.

@@DavesIneosGrenadierwow - I owe you a PROFOUND apology ;o)

Or a CRT? 😂

I mean you’re very much entitled to your opinion, but every engine has its problems. I’m only going to judge it based on a good healthy engine, and it’s a great engine. 😂

It's a money pit.

@@Lloydtriescars the issues on the s65 are well known & many engine builder will tell you how fragile these engines actually are . I was warned from different mechanics as well to these these e92 m3 a wide birth & after driving one I was in no hurry to buying one . Overrated very underwhelming money pit.

@@davida7713 I think you’re missing the point of the engine, but fair enough. You’re entitled to your opinion!

@@Lloydtriescars I think you are missing the point & deliberately ignoring otherwise you have zero knowledge at all with the s65 plus it’s not my opinion it’s facts. Go & research about the s65 & you will clearly see for yourself how fragile & troublesome these cars actually are . Plus they don’t even make the claimed 420bhp too with majority only making around 380 when on a dyno & it’s one reason why they are not even a fast car at all too

Yeah all valid points, but I think in reality most of these trucks will never step foot off-road, so I didn’t really think it would be that relevant to take it off-road. It’s already assumed that it will go places most cars won’t, but at £80,000 for a well specced car I think it’s out of reach of the common farmer. So thought I best assess it based on a road car. Again, as you quite rightly say, these things will mostly spend time on the road. I also will point out I didn’t say the steering was an “homage” to Land Rover, but it does handle very similarly to a Defender 😀👍🏻 I take it you are an owner of a Grenadier?

@@LloydtriescarsI am an owner. I was lucky enough to drive some of the test series, pre-production, and just thought it delivered an unreal, almost supernatural off-road experience. I tested it in some pretty challenging terrain, and it was just so unflappable - really tough climbs, rocks, wading - took it all in stride with zero drama (and in those cases, the steering was BRILLIANT). It continues to meet and exceed my expectations, and that with a certain, shall we say “Rubenesque” grace (she is big boned). So I don’t really think you reviewed it on the criteria for which it’s built - on the other hand, you probably provided a public service by providing fair warning to bankers and suburban moms who are just looking to be the first on the block to have one. Caveat emptor

Purpose built 4x4 review... I'll just tool about the village for a review. Weak sauce for sure.😂

Right on, I ordered one because its the single toughest production trail machine you can buy. It has the durability for long, hard wheeling with out breaking, and for our out door life style and living off-grid its perfect. But its true, if you are buying this just to be cool and drive on the street, it may not please you the way a light duty vehicle like Four Runner, Land Cruiser, New Defender, Bronco ect. But if you have spent the hours I have replacing IFS parts on the trail, you may want one!

Can’t argue, M57’s are solid things! I had an LCI 335d back in the day, what a smoker 💨

@@Lloydtriescars im glad you agree i was expecting a lot of hate 🙃 mine doesnt smoke either ❤️

@@censorshipBS Not at all! They’re a mega car! And so quick as well either a map on them.

Thank you mate!

I bet that M3 sounds INCREDIBLE. You’ve got two absolute unicorns there. All you need is a mint B7 RS4 and you’ve completed 2000’s saloons!

@@Lloydtriescars yes, sounds incredible🙌🏻 Funny you should say that… adding the RS4 is definitely on the cards. Trilogy complete.

@@toyotawagons4584 the real Holy Trinity 😉

You’re absolutely right! I hate to say it, but outright speed isn’t everything! I’d rather have this than a 340i! As nice as the 340 is!

And the other thing that’s nice about them too Geoff is that you could use them everyday even now! You’re a very lucky guy with your low mileage example. Absolute future classic.

Thanks for the feedback! I think this is a nailed on future classic for sure! Sounds like you’ve got an absolute beauty!

A modern 140i with a map on it would see off most cars! I’ve got a 2020 Bullitt Mustang and I wouldn’t even try it against a 140i 😂HOWEVER, it’s not all about the outright pace is it!

@@Lloydtriescars mine is still stock. However he had a lot of fun. An Octavia RS tried to join the band but was outpaced very soon. The E46 also entertained everyone around.

There is always something faster.

Thank you sir! That’s a lovely thing, especially LCI as well. Mineral white adds 10bhp I heard, it’s the motorsport colour after all 😉 lucky bloke!

Absolutely right, stone wall future classic these are!

318 though Michael 😂

Good insight! 😂