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Hi. Yes the remixer can apply whatever processing to his submix prior to mastering. On my submix bus I only use anSSL Master Bus compressor which I mix into and then maybe an EQ but I try and leave the final EQ balancing to the mastering engineer.

You are welcome. And Sweeden is on my wish list to visit. 👍👍

I'd vote for that policy. 😂😂😂

Ohh don't rub salt in my already raw wounds!! 😂😂😂

Your right but in my defence I didn't ask before buying.. I had assumed and we all know the mother of all F**k ups is assumption. Lesson learned. 👍👍

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@@themakingofmaybenever1984 the advantage of age means I remember Nvidia abandoning nforce. I had a Nvidia chipset fir an AMD system. Decided not to buy Nvidia again, made me miss bump gate 😁 And Intel's behaviour in the past towards AMD made me choose AMD where possible. Luckily AMD is doing great. Time to upgrade my socket fm2 system 😎

My IT guy has throttled back the clock speed. The computers still way faster than the previous i7. Let's hope we don't fry the chip.

I think I might have a huge problem as well....🤣🤣

Yup, I think you're right.

Could have done with your sound advice a few months ago!! 👍🫣

The RME is T2. So it's getting the new board to recognise it.

Shouldn't be a mainboard vendor issue if they followed guidelines on how to implement the technology from the onset. Memory QVL should be mainboard vendors responsibility.

Turns out the chip is requesting more voltage from the board than it should. There is a micro patch to restrict this but is not available until August. We will see if it works!!

Sadly we've already committed and installed the Intel chipset. Fingers crossed we don't cook the chip! 🤞🤞

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 Update to newest bios and try undervolting most analyses of failures shows that they are correlated with higher voltage during single core boosting you can mitigate it by limit clocks and drop voltage below 1,4V

GC-ALPINE RIDGE (rev. 2.0)

We might try this in the future. We need to cracking on with our album and hope the USB bandwidth will be enough.

Yup, we're going to be on a knife edge for the near future. 🫣

Sadly I think it's too late for us. We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed 🤞

I'll look into that. Thanks👍👍

I know Steve I know. But I've never used the master fader on the Mackie since I bought it as Pro Tools doesn't use it. I will probably buy a second hand replacement at some point just so I can sell it as fully working when I come to buy a new controller.

Well we did it the other way around. The speakers used to be up on stands and behind the desk pointing down and we weren't happy with how they sounded. We now have them lower and on the desk wings bringing them closer to the mix position. Early indications are they're sounding so much better. In the next video I will be calibrating them and comparing the calibration results with the previous position results. I can now almost reach out and touch them whereas before you would have needed tenticles as arms 😂😂

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 I actually meant the video monitors, not the audio monitors 😂 Sorry, I wasn't clear.

Ohh yes..... Well they're 43" monitors and we've set the resolution so that everything is clear. To be honest I have to wear reading glasses so for me this set up is perfect as I can see them fine and dandy without my specs!!! 🧐

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 Brilliant. My eyes are getting worse and with DAWs getting more and more complicated I find it hard to see everything. Maybe this is the answer for me too...

I'm hoping they only degrade when overclocked. 👍👍 Our use shouldn't work them too hard but I guess we'll see. Might come back to bite me!!!

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 Go watch the video from the channel level one techs he has looked at crash reports of machines with 14900k's that have never been overclocked

Interesting, I'll go check it out. Thanks for the tip.

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 sounds like they have a failure rate over 50% more than likely

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 th-cam.com/video/oAE4NWoyMZk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gQLcmPKcKz99nkwj You definitely should change it!

Hoping the I9 14900K won't crash on me. I like the idea of banana powered pc as well. 🤣🤣🤣

Yes they are on the watchlist. I have heard the Icon have some software glitches, not sure if they have been ironed out yet??

I hear you and I am picking up that there are some serious issues. Other than returning the chip we're now up and running so I'll guess we'll see how it goes. May end up having to replace it. It's certainly not great to be worrying about it after a brand new build!!!!

I know I should have done more research, I didn't think that my RME was a different standard to the new motherboard. What was dissapointing was the fact that even retrograding the motherboard ports to T3 my T2 RME still wouldn't be recognised. Anyhew USB seems to be working fine. 👍👍

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 what sort of latency do you have via USB?

Well it's not much but that is the beauty about the RME interfaces. You can fold back from within the interface so there is no latency when recording and no latency on playback. The only time I notice latency is if I want to use a plugin during recording. I then have to bring the buffer rate right down. But to be honest it is rare. Again the RME has built in reverb so you can have zero latentency if a vocalist needs some reverb. I Have to say I think these RME interfaces are superb.

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 I personally prefer using RME MADI FX pcie cards with madi ad/da like antelope. rock solid and capable of getting down to 1.5ms latency with almost no overhead, perfect for running external analogue synths into the daw and adding external outboard as inserts, for tracking i would track through outboard on the way in

My favourite is a chicken tikka padeena madras. 🤪

Thanks Mike. Glad you enjoyed it.

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 very informative as a beneficiary of the 1970's PC print publishing revolution and a fan of the late 1980s and 1990 audio DIY audio recording revolution. My how far things have come . . . mb

Yes we started on a little Tascam 4 track cassette recorder. In fact we are intending to use some audio recorded on that in one of our album tracks. When we get to putting that track together I'll cover it on the channel.

Tell me about it!!! I'm just hoping that the issues with the Intel chips is only when you excessively overclock them. For Pro Tools and Davinchi Resolve, the two main programes I use, you don't need to overclock the chipset. If they do fail I'm hoping they come out with a more stable chip as I don't want to change the motherboard to another chipset format. Only time will tell...... oh wait thats the title of the last track on our new EP, available on Bandcamp!! (See what I did there). 😃😃. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. It is appreciated.

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 Alas, they're happening for servers, which don't do overclocking at all (and, indeed, they tried underclocking and limiting to mitigate the issue, to no avail)

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 nope, look up the level one techs video about it also gamers nexus did a crossover video with level one techs, bloth youtube channels are highly respected computer tech channels. it appears that the 12900k is fine though.

Mmmm I'm starting to get worried. I guess if it fails mid recording session that'll be a pain in the butt.

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 This CPU do have failure rate of 50% in datacenters. And worse, it degrades with time. If you could you should change your CPU and mobo to AMD!

Also later in the video you ask about a new controller.. I have a icon qcon g2 they are selling on ebay for a few hundred dollars now easily one of the cheapest controllers that does what it needs to as far as being a controller, has motorized faders and you can get extenders for it to mvoe from 8 channel to 16 there are other icon, they come with some plugins but it is purely digital. I am a hobbiest but I also have a DDX3216 that allows analog and digital and some very basic DSP processes, with adat1616 card that I feed into an antelope interface. The motorized faders on the DDX3216 and pan pots can be used as controls via midi or mmc type thing also so its a nice analog mixer / control. When combined the two offer like 16+ faders that can also be put into fader buses that are easily navigable. Each is maybe 400 used, maybe less. Not sure prices in the UK though, there may be better branding options there. Bear in mind I do most things in the box but for any noisey analog gear the DDX3216 has good enough preamps that could technically be upgrade. I use the antelope "consoe grade" inputs for any noise sensitive recording. Overall I am liking it for a basic hobby setup. Of course I also have a bunch of midi controllers that have sliders and knobs that can be used as assigned controls. You can get a really cheap midi controller like the xsession pro for the price of the fader replacement comes with 5 sliders and like 8 knobs or something of course not a great look for a pro studio as a consumer grade plastic USB device but mine has lasted 20 years already. None the less for me I wanted a nice digital control but I also wanted an analog control and all the "used' analog / digital mixers are from around the later 1990s to early 2000's as they started going all digital not long after that. If I only had one controller it would be an analog / digital interface. I wish more of the buttons on the DDX3216 were mapable though to be more like the ICON QCON .. I think it is technically possible as the DDX3216 is like an AM386 or 486 computer processor with shark dsp.. its basically an old computer running it but they have custom software running on it. Longtime project to reprogram that. For yourself though you already have so many patch bays and stuff, I am geussing for you everything is getting routed through your RME interface. I was also shopping Chinese mixers due to the cost. As a hobbiest everything I get is usually a used item that it a couple years old. For a controller it is mostly appearance. When I was shopping costs it came down cost per fader. The other aspect is any hidden cost in recapping. I am very happy with the ICON digital controllers. They appear fairly well built, and I would guess their newer units are even nicer theya re all basically universal mackie controllers though that have a few other user mode options. Yeah so I can't say what I would get now if I needed to replace the G2 controller as I am like now with the ddx3216 danalog and qcon g2, to replace them might be something that is an actual desk or console but that is a way higher price point. I am not upset with getting a used QCON, so far they have done the job and it would be hard to get a lower cost DAW controller, plus you get the plugins and software with it if they are transfered. Anyway TONS of words off to get another coffee. Thanks for sharing your experiences in the studio I look to these types of videos as inspiration in seeing how I can improve my own setup. Also for me for spare parts you can pick up whole "for parts" units with everything for the same price of one of those mackie faders.

We tried a few things and quite accidently plugged the adapters into the USB C port. But alas no joy. I have kinda resigned myself to the fact that we're going to have to stick with USB. Interestingly enough RME have dropped Thunderbolt connectivity in their latest converters.

I'd go for a decaf coffee Will!!! 😄😄 I used to have an analogue desk. In fact you might see it in our videos. It is now a piece of wall art on our back wall. It was getting ready for re-capping and as you say with all the inputs I have with the RME, Focusrite I18/20 and the Octo Pre the need for analogue channels became less important. I did run for a long while both the Studiomaster P7 with 32 input channels plus the 8 aux channels with the Mackie controller for the DAW but the new layout didn't have space for the analogue desk. I have been looking at the Icon V1m and V1m-x for 16 channels of control. If anyone has any experience of these I'd be interested to hear from you. Thanks for you input Will, it is really appreciated. 👍👍

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 Just bear in mind its not the port itself but the architecture of the controller etc.. USB 4 or USB 3.1 may be thunderbolt compatible. IMPORTANT Thunderbolt 3 cables support Thunderbolt 3 and USB 3.1 (USB-C) devices. USB 3.1 (USB-C) cables do not work with Thunderbolt 3 devices.. The cables DO matter. Do not use USB C cables with thunderbolt devices even though they look the same they are not. Thunderbolt cables SHOULD work for both. Not all cables are the same. You need to check to see what version of USB C is it 4, 3.2, 3.1 etc.. this is what matters because this is what bandwidth and data rates they have the size of the port doesn't really matter so much except what cable will fit in it. "This is because Thunderbolt 3 uses two lanes of PCIe 3.0 for data transfer, while USB-C uses one lane of PCIe 3.0 or two lanes of PCIe 2.0. The increased speeds are important for enhanced performance in activities like gaming and virtual reality."

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 I noticed the wallart it looks very nice. I have needed to be creative with space. I got these laptop holder desk clamps that you clamp onto the desk and it comes with two racks normally for like laptop and keyboard but I have two of these one has repurposed the inside of a flat-screen tv metal chasis as a shelf the other an old satellite decoder box metal chasis as a shelf and they hold my keyboards and interfaces and such. As I don't have a patch bay (nor tons of analog equipment) my two mixers that have TRS / xlr connections sort of serve the function of a patch bay. Yeah I brought in some smaller "end tables" that go under, so I am able to put digital controller under the danalog vertically and they are both within reach but I am also using 3 desks (technically 4 larger plus 3 endtables/desksbut two desks are infront of one another so I have somewhere to mount a large screen TV and the other infront of it to have space for controllers and monitors) in sort of a U shape so I sort of have a lot of surface area, I also added shelves to the desks.. this is not ideal for acoustic but I am more someone who likes playing with sound that doing fine audio stuff, ie I havn't acoustically treated, all the shelves and stuff are more of a sound diffusion tool. That said the only time it really comes in hand is if I want to mix through dsp fxs or apply some type of loopback etc.. as most audio is done in the box. I still really love the sound the ddx puts out with its dsp compressors etc.. its a lot of fun to mix audio through them, I think it downsamples the audio. Not sure what is going on with it. Thanks again for sharing your experiences. :)

Thanks Gareth. I guess were lucky in that we've had a good 40 years to accumulate, change, exchange gear. We still consider ourselves more akin to a bedroom studio than anything else though.

I’m now 65 a have been a bass player since I was 18, got into recording in my twenties. I moved around for quite a while, have only been settled for the last twenty years . Only really been recording my own stuff though.

We've only moved house once so not had to be conscious of hauling a load of gear from place to place so I guess you kinda accumulate it. Although I predominantly record Maybe Never stuff I am hoping to work with some younger local talent, just need to find it!!

You are most welcome.

You are most welcome.

Hey. I've only just seen this message. Sorry I haven't replied earlier. It has been a long road with a number of long breaks due to our normal career demands, but we got there. Let's hope our album doesn't take as long..

How deserted is your island. Can I come?? 😁😁

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 Sure ye could ... the trick is how to let ye know privately ... otherwise it couldn't stay desertet, could it?

Damn your logic!!🤣🤣 Oh well I'll just have to put up with the relentless rain here in blighty!

@@themakingofmaybenever1984 High there ... if yer serious about the desert island make sure you're looking for your destiny. Leaving all yer buddies with 40 plus years common ground and history ain't no simple snap in the wind - but should it be I'd be glad to show ye some way out of the rain. Dunno nuthin' 'bout Sheffield - may have been an ok place to be around in the old days. At present times the whole wide world is crumbling and probably very soon everyone will be on the run ... for a desert island. But as they say, few are the chosen - so listen to your Lord if this is yer way to go. Best wishes, Sylvester

My better half reminded me that I wouldn't survive without my regular Friday Night curry at my favourite indian restaurant..... 😋 😁😁 You keep well my friend. 🙏🙏

Well Paul, our drummer, regularly has improv sessions with both Andy and Terry from the Comsats. Terry is still producing music with his wife Jan. You can check out her channel @felinegenius1 which features Terry playing on many of her videos.

Glad you enjoyed it mate. Thanks for all your support.

Thanks Bonza Dude. Hope you enjoy the EP.

Thanks for the feedback Steve. We have got a channel called Maybe Never which will just host the music and music videos. You're right that covering the process of making music doesn't always lend itself to a broad audience. We're wondering if a smaller audience watching more of a vlog style channel is the way to go.

youtube.com/@maybenever1984?si=X3qcnZc_twdtxShZ

This is brilliant... I had to watch it a couple of times to see it but once I did I ain't gonna see anything else now.😂😂

Think I might try doing a short of this.

Thank you for your support and feedback throughout the journey. Don't think its over yet but not sure what content will be coming over the next few months.

Well it's an exclusive club Gareth!! 🤣🤣🤣 Thank you for the feedback and your signed CD is waiting for release day.

Thank you for the feedback. It is hard sometimes to find the answers to what you would think are easy questions. It was mainly the sequence of things that was unclear to us. Hope this helps others.

Thank you for your kind comments. Hope you will keep following our journey and that you'll tune into @maybenever1984 to watch our debut singles music video.