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The way im doing my lift is the same as what this video suggests, but i was going to change it base on how the top athlets do it. So now im confused, which one is correct? If this video is right, does that make the worlds best wrong? What am i missing here?

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The other aspect is the knees sitting flush with the elbows so that hip positioning is maintained and the tension is still in the hamstrings on the ascent up.

While I don’t disagree with ur general point. There are specific things I disagree with and/or would like to introduce nuance. I would like to point out that I am not using the clips presented, unless said so directly, as evidence of any of my arguments. 1) ur understanding of the clean is fundamentally wrong. This is even more apparent seeing ur technique. The starting position of a clean is a mixture of a deadlift and squat. The bar should not be mid-foot, it should be closer to the balls of the foot. It is not the same movement mechanics and follows it’s own rules. In fact oly lifters have their own deadlift variation called clean deadlift. It is like a deadlift but the starting position is different. It is inherently more quad biased and any error is due to a quad weakness (form breakdown usually accompanied by max weights). It may or may not be a big worry. Or a technical error learning which is problematic. I’ll mention this again later. However the idea of not letting the angle of the torso lower is correct. 2) a lot of the “hips rising and shoulders falling” isn’t always due to an error. A lot of lifters start very low and then lift it up. They only ACTUALLY initiate the pull once their hips get into position before the bar actually comes off the ground. This gives the illusion of improper movement mechanics however it isn’t. This is typically due to preference (dynamic start) or to build up tension (pull the slack.) 3)if u have very strong quads relative or just a bizarre anatomy having more knee action can help give more leg drive. Ur hamstrings can only have good leverage to pull once ur knees are in a fixed and extended position, (shins are usually near vertical, the knee no longer rises or extends rather the hips shoot through) if ur shins are vertical too low in the lift it can have the hamstrings in a more stretched position and this a weaker position potentially. Ur anthropometry might even slightly effect this. However this case is typically rare. But once the knee action is done, Yes there will be the shoulders dropping and the hips rising, but this, especially for people with relatively weaker hamstrings allows the hamstring and glutes to fire in a less flexed position. This is why rack pulls are easier when u upright ur torso and flex the knees more and why a stiff legged deadlift is harder. The hips don’t rise but the hamstring are stretched in a weak position. Added knee bend if u know what ur doing might add some hips rising but could, if u know urself, help u. If u have less knee bend that only means ur gonna have ur hamstrings initiate lower, and more stretched, which for most people isn’t a problem unless it’s too far like a stiff legged. Again the degree of it will be individualised. 4)at some point the weight will be so heavy that most people have their knees extend quick (due to weak quads or just in general a maximal load) and the load shifts as quickly as possible to the posterior. This is inevitable. It’s the same in the squat, it isn’t something that needs to be “corrected” or “avoided” but rather ur body adjusting. This may or may not make u be able to get the lift through. It depends on ur control and weaknesses. In terms of what I agree with. Yes. The standard should be mid foot on the bar for deadlifts. Not cleans. A vertical line is generally the best rule not necessarily as much for cleans. And that if ur hips excessively rise there is likely a chance ur quads are weak, or ur technique is bad. Another thing I’m not sure if it was mentioned is pulling the slack out of the bar. If u aren’t pulling the slack out of the bar the hips could rise too quickly as u initiate the pull, throwing u off in a bad position. Conversely, as I mentioned before some athletes pull the slack out but they don’t initiate the pull so it gives the illusion of the torso further lowering when really they were getting into position before they actually started pulling. Things change depending on ur approach to the lift.

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after watching 100 videos... finally I got what I needed. Thank you....

It looks scary when he stick his belly out, I thought it's an accident video at the beginning

That’s exactly how I got into weightlifting 🏋🏻 it was my lower back pain which the doctors weren’t helpful healing it rather than just prescribing me painkillers ❗️but once I started doing deadlifts, squats and bench press; now I’m pain free stronger than before 😎💪🏻

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Thank you sir

Enjoyed this interesting and informative talk, thank you.

Thank you for sharing your journey with us. Doctors seem to give patients fatalism, you give hope and courage.

Inspiring! Hope you’re going strong five years later!

Becoming great at deadlifting means......... you are good at deadlifting. I saw no benefits for my every day life apart from a sore back. No thanks. Get great at squatting and everything takes off, the difference is night and day.

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Well done, Raj!

Amazing video, because its reliably presented with almost academic rigour. Thank you coach!

This is brilliant

Startingstrength basic barbell training 3rd edition by mark Rippetoe read the book. Chapter 4 The Deadlift

This is a very great explanation; this video should be on discussion in every powerlifting/weightlifting community.

Just picked up some tape and rubber bands, am anticipating a fantastic deadlift session

just want to give my 2 cents. hip raising is not always bad. if it is raising because 1. you start lower than optimal hip height, your body will adjust to optimal position by tilt forward. in this case knee will NOT travel back too much and little energy will be consumed. by doing this you could avoid start with your hip too high. so I think this kind of hip shooting is okay. 2. you lack quad or hip extention strength, in this case, whatever height you hip is at, your hip will always shoot up and knee travel back before bar leaves floor, because you need your lower back to compensate the lack of strength.

what a class mate! Thanks for sharing this knowledge, keep doing!

Thanks youtube for recommending me this MASTERCLASS with no views at all

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Thank you for sharing your DEXA scan results Patricia, and well done to you! So did it take you 3 years to bring it down to -2.2 from -2.7? That’s impressive 5 digit down, makes me more confident in my new journey in weight lifting, never wanted to but I have to if I want to hold off drugs for bones same as Patricia in my 60s I’ve just started strength training in deadlifts squat shoulder press etc specifically for bone strength

Thank you for sharing your story! I am 60 and diagnosed with Osteopenia. I am currently strength training and totally committed. Best wishes to you!

Sooooo has your bone density improved ?!??? Get to the point!!!M

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Simple and no nonsense explanation.

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Great video !!,, I found SS back in 2016 and attended a seminar in Md, in 2017,, 63 soon to be 64 and going strong,, as the RIP says , STRENGTH is the Most important physical attribute !!! esp for masters age trainers. I work at your local Y and see seniors day after day going from machine to machine while the squat racks remain empty.

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Great. Thank you for posting this.

I’ve heard this explanation somewhere before. Are you a startingstrength coach?

The best video I have seen regarding maintenance of strength. I need to humble myself at age 56, and lift a little lighter, because when I go too heavy, I do not back off, and then frustration sets in.

Surely impressive😊 And you’re right, we will unavoidably lose muscle mass by age unless we lift heavy now and then. The result of being passive is, as you often see it with old people, that we’re hardly capable of walking after a certain age. I’m 64 and have discovered that it doesn’t take that much effort in terms of time to stay fit. A couple of times each week in the gym (-where I really give it a go...), and I’m capable of maintaining my muscle mass. Other than that long walks, a healthy diet and enough sleep...but I’m sure that the weight training is the single most important factor👍

Thank you for sharing this, its so valuable to hear Patricias story and inspiring! i'm 46 and have been following a more power building programme since Jan. Its so good for my mental health, and I love the way I feel. (I am also doing 75kg as a warm up deadlift - recently got my 100kg!) Irony is I started doing it to try and mitigate ageing concerns - but starting on a HRT pathway in June, I got referred for a Dexa and I already have Osteoporosis. Shocked doesn't cover it. I don't want to give up lifting and the programme is about to start a 3 month power lifting, strength over hypertrophy focus and I was researching reassurance I am doing the right thing. And found you guys. I feel inspired and I wish more women would not be scared of the barbell especially in the m3 age range.

Top man. You really are a true inspiration

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Thank you very much! Nice !!

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