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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 4 ม.ค. 2023
SAR Guys on Robert Koester's Lost Person Behavior EP 74
Joe and Lance talk about the Robert Koester's Lost Person Behavior Book and App and how they are used in a Search and Rescue Mission.
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Link to Lost Person Behavior Book by Robert Koester: amzn.to/4h0hSpd
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Please help theSkamania County SAR Team
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Lance and Joe talk ask for help for the Skamania County SAR Team whose gear was stolen the day after Christmas and a two day Search and Recovery activation. You can see the local new video of what happened here: th-cam.com/video/rEtXzx2CDJQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=crPH-45GD2P3mmfv You can donate to their Go Fund Me account here: gofund.me/90bca06f Thank you!
How we use Prusiks in Search and Rescue EP 73
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Lance and Joe demonstrate how to use a prusik in conjunction with a carabiner to secure items during low angle search and rescue missions. We are an Amazon affiliate and get a very small commission when people use our links to products. This helps us fund the channel - if you thinking about purchasing something mentioned in our videos we appreciate you clicking on the links. Link to carabiner w...
Using Flagging to mark trails during a Search and Rescue Mission EP 72
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Lance and Joe talk about a recent mission where flagging was not used but could have been to improve efficiency of team movement, then describe how to use flagging for that purpose.
GPS Exercises you can do at home to prepare for a SAR mission EP 71
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Lance and Joe demonstrate an easy practice exercise you can do at home with your GPS unit to simulate a SAR mission.
Making a Hasty Harness with webbing. EP 70
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Lance and Joe talk about how they use the webbing their entire team carries to make a hasty harness for search and rescue.
Garmin Rino Basic Settings for Search and Rescue. EP 69
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Lance and Joe go through all the menu items on the Garmin Rino and show what settings we use on our team while on a search.
Configuring Data Fields on Garmin Rino GPS. EP 68
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We've had several requests to make a video on how to configure Dashboards/Data fields on the Garmin Rino GPS units we use. In this video we show you how we like to set up the display. The link below will take you to the Amazon store where you can purchase some of the equipment we use. We are part of the Amazon Affiliate program and receive a small commission when folks purchase items linked bel...
How we use, or don't use Trekking Poles in Search and Rescue. EP 67
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Joe and Lance talk about how they use, or don't use, trekking poles on a SAR mission. We are an Amazon Affiliate. We do make a small commission when people go to Amazon from our link. It is not much, but it helps pays for equipment so we can make our videos. Below on is a link to Trekking poles we recommend: Carbon Fiber Trekking Poles: amzn.to/3NPcb0X
Harbor Freight Motorcycle Trailer we use for Search and Rescue EP 66
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Joe and Lance show the modifications made to a Harbor Freight trailer so it can haul two motorcycles. If you enjoyed this video and would like to see more from the SAR Guys, please "Like" and "Subscribe". We like to hear from our viewers about what they think about the videos and what other videos they would like to see. We are an Amazon Affiliate and make a small commision when people click on...
SAR Guys Introduction 2024
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Meet Lance and Joe. We are two guys that have a passion for Search in Rescue. We hope that this channel will give you some tips and trick to make you more successful on your missions!
We Don't use maps in Search and Rescue! EP 65
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Lance and Joe explain why they don't use paper maps while on Search and Rescue missions and what alternatives they do use.
What do Map Contour Lines Represent? EP 64
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SAR Guys explain what contour lines are on a map and show what the terrain looks like for the representative lines.
Basic GPS Functions Part 3 Tracks Ep 63
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SAR Guys continue their series on GPS operations with a demonstration of marking, viewing and deleting tracks on a Garmin Rino 755T GPS.
Basic GPS Functions Part 2 Waypoints Ep 62
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SAR Guys continue their series on GPS operations with a demonstration of marking, viewing and deleting waypoints on a Garmin Rino 755T GPS.
A Simple Explanation of Compass Declination Ep 60
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A Simple Explanation of Compass Declination Ep 60
Passport System for Tracking Searchers Ep 59
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Passport System for Tracking Searchers Ep 59
What to or not to do on the Search and Rescue Radio Frequencies Ep. 58
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What to or not to do on the Search and Rescue Radio Frequencies Ep. 58
Radio Basics for Search and Rescue Teams using Kenwood or Baofeng radios. Ep. 56
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Radio Basics for Search and Rescue Teams using Kenwood or Baofeng radios. Ep. 56
Various Ways to Signal for Search and Rescue Ep. 53
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Various Ways to Signal for Search and Rescue Ep. 53
Collecting firewood in a wet environment Ep. 52
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Collecting firewood in a wet environment Ep. 52
Starting a Fire for warmth on a SAR mission Ep. 51
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Starting a Fire for warmth on a SAR mission Ep. 51
SAR Guys - What's in your tool bag? Ep. 50
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SAR Guys - What's in your tool bag? Ep. 50
TW 200 - Yikes! I don't think I have enough fuel to get home! Ep. 49
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TW 200 - Yikes! I don't think I have enough fuel to get home! Ep. 49
How to set up the Traverse Rescue Mule II Litter Wheel Ep. 47
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How to set up the Traverse Rescue Mule II Litter Wheel Ep. 47
for winter use Youngstown winter weight gloves. They're waterproof and keep the cold out
Nice job, It definitely is a useful tool. Side note, I see you left the fridge in command :)
Got to keep the essentials! Fridge, bathroom, and coffee maker. Everything else is questionable. lol - Lance
Great topic lots of information on his courses,nice job
Thank you for watching! We're glad you found it helpful. - Lance
Bob runs a great class, his tools and programs are spot on with exception of outlying anomalies.
Agreed! An invaluable resource in my opinion. - Lance
Great job mentioning this ,hopefully it will be resolved soon
Thank you, we hope so too. - Joe
Thank you for bringing awareness to their situation, I can only imagine how devastating such a thing would be to our team.
It was a horrible thing for sure - Joe
Thank you guys for the exposure. It means a lot to our team that you would take the time to discuss what happened to us and share our go fund me.
We appreciate the opportunity to help and hope this will bring attention to your team's needs. - Joe
Are those baofeng radios easily able to set up different frequencies,they seem very inexpensive but look reliable
They are easy to set up as long as you have all the information about the settings for what frequency you want to use. We have found them to be very affordable - but also found that a certain percentage of them have problems. The most common is interference from close frequencies - Joe
This may have been a missed opportunity to talk about map scale and quantify the detail missing from 1:36k or 1:24k topo maps. I slightly disagree, if only for planning activities. Easier to coordinate team search patterns on paper before stepping off.
Love the perspective! I don’t disagree, paper does has its place that is for sure. Thanks for the comment! - Lance
Did a SAREX a few years ago and despite having military panel markers on the ground, orange smoke grenades, pen flares and a radio talking the aircraft onto our position; the only signal they saw was the mirror and a directional strobe (placed on top of a pair of binoculars and then watch the plane). The lesson we learned from this is always have repeatable or persistent signalling devices. The flare burns for just a few seconds, the smoke for 30 seconds and if aircrew is not looking there at that moment they will miss it. Panel markers on the ground can be easily obscured by shadow or vegitation (if being viewed from low oblique angles). My opinion is have them elevated somewhat like on the side of a hill or a lone tree ideally on all four cardinal directions.
Thank you for the information, Great Idea - Joe
It also helps to have the prusk cord/rope at least 3mm thinner, than the rope your attaching it too. If both prusik and rope are the same thickness, the prusik will have trouble gripping the other rope :)
Thank you - we probably should have mentioned that. - Joe
Thanks for the content.. We are looking to get radios for our group and are deciding wht to get. Does it matter what freq . you run? How do you decide what channels are private etc. in regards to the Baofeng radios. Do they require a lic?
That can be a complicated question. You can use the GMRS radios for search and rescue if you are volunteers. You do have to have a license, but there is no test and you only need one license for a family. I think it costs $10. As for the Baofeng. It is designed as a ham radio which does require each person to have a license. We use our radios on the Local Sheriff's department frequency under their license. You should do your research on radios - there are too many variables to give you a good answer in this space. I hope this gets you going in the right direction. - Joe
Half the prusik video on carabiners?! Why not have a separate carabiner video?!
Good point! They kinda go hand in hand, but we can always be better. 😀 Thanks for the comment. - L
@@AutieTortie I had to laugh when I read your comment. You are exactly right. We don’t script our videos and went off on a tangent. I should change the name of the video to include carabiners. And yes, we will consider doing a separate video on carabiners. Thank you for the comment - Joe
I really appreciate you guys making this channel
Thank you. It is a lot of fun for us. If you have suggestion on topics feel free to let us know! - Lance
WHAT GPS UNITS WOULD YOU RECOMMEND
Thanks for the question. There are so many choices out there and the technology changes so quickly. I like the Garmin Rino family of GPS units. I personally use a Rino 755 t. This is the unit our team provides for those who don't have their own GPS unit. I like the ability to take pictures and send them via the GMRS radio. I also like the ability to 'see' other team members on your unit. Our team is now migrating to the Garmin Montana. We have each of the Team leaders carry one because of the Satellite communications ability. I do not have much experience with them yet. I'm sure there will be a video coming on those units sometime in the future. That being said - I suggest you talk to your Command Team and find out what brand or format they would like you to use. Different brands use different formats and connectors so downloading files can get complicated. Good luck. - Joe
We actually have "SEARCH & RESCUE" stamped along the the whole role of our flagging tape (theoretically biodegradable). When it comes to junction points/corner posting, having two strips of flagging, one above the other or such, is more noticeable. Orange or blue flagging does stand out. I don't know who thought, to also include "Yellow" SAR flagging tape, was a good idea 🙄. It's reminding members to "finish" there tracking on SARTOPO. Otherwise that trail/road map back, gets really crowded with tracks 🤣
I guess I never thought about pre-printed flagging, that is a great idea! We also will use multiple strips in areas that seem to need more help standing out or helps identify the trail better. We use pre/post deployment checklists to help use remember to Finish the tracks on our GPS and SARTOPO. it does cause a headache with command if we don’t. Great comment! - Lance
Great explanation,we basically do the same,about chest high to eye height due to the terrain and try to see at least two flags in a line so you can tell your keeping a straight line, also writing on them is something we have a tendency to forget,nice reminder
Great addition. I didn’t explain a height, but yes we try to stay consistent with placement location on the trails and with height. It makes it easier to locate the marker! Thanks for your input. - Lance
Nice. I tend to use electrical tape to mark trails, but then afterwards I have to go along and be sure to take them all off again because it isn't biodegradable.
Interesting. Do you use color? If so what is your favorite color? Electrical tape is very durable but can see it being a pain to clean up. We don’t always go out the same way we go in, so that is a benefit to the biodegradable. Thanks for the comment! - Lance
How far will these connect wirelessly threw gmrs on tha app that’s on the main screen
This is a good question. The radio on the Garmin Rino is an FM radio which basically has a line of site transmission range. If you are in the open dessert you can get five or even ten miles range. In our area we have very rugged terrain with lots of hills and canyons. Sometimes we get as little as 1/2 mile range. We have recently experimented with a GMRS repeater and are very pleased with the results. Properly placed, we expect five to ten miles range, even in our rugged terrain. Thank you for the question. - Joe
@@2sarguys Thanks for the response !!
I’m grad you brought this up So say repeater uses Freq:462.650 Input:141.3 Output: 141.3 That mean I would have to use 19R ctcss 22 Tranmit: 457.650 Channel 19R Receive: 462.650 PL: 141.3 Ctcss 22 Correct? Repeater only list one frequency. Or would you use channel 19 with ctcss 22 because gmrs channel 19 on this radio is Tx/Rx 462.650
@ Oh boy - your question is confusing to me. The GMRS frequencies are pre-programmed in the Garmin Rinos. The input frequency is different than the output frequency on repeaters. See if this chart helps: www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/rino700/EN-US/GUID-D92B9341-0405-44A4-8E28-6FB105A2D82D.html I hope this answers your question - Joe
keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do! - Lance
Finally a vid about this thing. Wild tho more ppl on cb haven’t heard a word on gmrs…
GMRS can be a very useful tool. Down fall is that they don’t always have the reach as other types of radios. Just as all tools, everything has its place. - Lance
I carry a small black diamond harness that fits in my pocket.
I have thought about doing that also, but I have chose to just use the gear I already carry instead of adding more weight. On missions where I know we will be doing more rope rescue type work I will adjust my pack for the harness and others pieces of gear. Thanks for the comment! - Lance
I Lived next to Glacier national Park for 20 years. Most of the time I just carried one pole when the hike was relatively easy or I was scrambling on a steep slope. I like having one hand free for many reasons. Coming DOWN a trail, having two sticks can be bice to help reduce the "impact" on your knees. I was 69 for the climb below. And yes putting your hand through the loop is a good idea---maybe life saving. I was climbing Reynolds Mountain in Glacier National Park one day with a very experienced climber. We were traversing a VERY steep section on the SE side of the mountain where two sticks was very good to have. We did this section right after lunch. I had looped left hand, my downhill hand, but forgot to loop my right, uphill hand. The trail was barely a foot wide and was mostly fine scree where footing was sketchy. At one point I needed to use my right hand to put on the rock wall and so I just dropped my stick!☹ I watched it go down the mountain. So I had to ascend the rest of the way up and come down with just one stick. NOT fun. So use those loops.
Thanks for the comment! There definitely is an advantage for using the sticks that is for sure. Sometimes we have to learn the hard way to see the benefit of the little things like loops, at least that’s the route I generally take 🤪. - Lance
Plus the tracking elastics on the pole 🧐lol. For me, one pole and small cone basket (doesn't get hung up in the bush). It's a third leg for small creek crossings and such. That and short strip of flagging tape on the strap, makes it easier to spot at night. When your gathering up to head back, left a few behind over the years when carrying a stretcher lol.
Awesome suggestions! You are absolutely correct when you say a third leg, creek crossing can be tricky. Thanks for the comment! - Lance
Yeah - I forgot to talk about the tracking elastics on the pole. I've mentioned that in another video though. Shame on me.....Joe
Hey guys new to the channel and love it so far! Where you guys located at and are you looking for another guy for help? I also have a TW. From Pittsburgh PA
We are on the Oregon coast. Thanks for watching! TW200 are awesome little motorcycles! - Lance
I used to be anti-trekking poles because I thought they were dorky and made me look weak. Then...I used them. I found myself making my own in the woods anyway by picking up a limb and using it, but since I hunt so much, that got tiresome. Now, I don't go into the woods without them. What used to take me half an hour trekking into one of my hunting sits, I know easily do in 10 minutes without no fear of tripping over anything in the dark of the pre-dawn 5:00 mornings. On top of all that, I noticed that I'd feel far less fatigued when I'd arrive at my hunting sit. I cross creeks much faster with them and me being responsible for the safety of anywhere from a dozen to over a hundred men on my sites, I feel smarter using them nowadays. We're taught that 3 points of contact are always safer than 2 points of contact. 4 points of contact are even better. I highly recommend them. I use Cascades' poles which offer the best bang for the buck.
Great comment, Thank you for the encouragement of using poles. I should use them more than I do! I agree that they play a big part in limiting overall fatigue and give a confidence boost on tricky ground. Thanks for the comment! - Lance
It took about two years of trial and error before I ended up realizing that one pole is perfect for me. Every individual is different and you have to do what works for you. - Joe
Any long term reviews on this harness? What is your current evolution on how you are carrying gear? Have you adapted it with your 24 or 72 hour packs?
Thanks for the questions Randy. I am a huge fan of this Harness. It has taken some time to get use to it but overall it works great for short searches. I would not use it for a long term search, but for short searches were you are out for only a few hours they work well. I use a very modular system with my packs overall, so switching stuff between the harness and my larger backpack is relatively simple. If you use a water bladder it cuts out a lot of your overall storage but through a little creativity you can make it work. Joe and I will discuss making a new video on the evolution of our set up if that is something that our viewers are interested in. Thanks again for the comment. Stay safe! - Lance
Thank you for the questions. As I mentioned in the video I'm still not using the vest all the time. We are required to wear it for some types of events and I do. Any time we go on a search, I go back to my old standby - chest harness and backpack. The main reason is the storage of electronics and access to items that are quickly needed such as flagging tape, paper and pencil, phone, GPS, flashlight etc. I also like to carry my clothing layers because weather changes so fast here on the coast. I think that redividing the storage areas and making them more accessible from the top might change my mind. I have to reiterate - the vest is a good product. It is well made, adjustable, durable, visible and just plain solid. - Joe
Nice trail you found with windchimes! Seriously, good video guys!
Glad you like them! 🤪 Ann you’re awesome! - L
Lanse cut his whiskers off 😮
I mix it up a lot! 🤪 - Lance
Great system! Thanks for sharing this
Our pleasure! Hope it helps! - Lance
Thank you for you hard work guys. Really appreciate it!
Our pleasure! - Lance
Nice :). Do you have a trailer document holder aluminum tube. holds the insurance papers ( "must be kept on/with the trailer"). A different vehicle could tow the trailer
Hi There. Thanks for the question. In Oregon we do not need to register or carry documents for utility trailers under 1500 pounds. So I don't have a place for documents. It would be easy to add some type of waterproof container if I needed a space for that type of thing.
Oddly, the larger the city, the more dismissive they are of volunteer efforts. Last week, a deputy told me SAR was obsolete because it could be done by drone. With that mindset, how often will they activate volunteers?
That is a very sad statement for sure. Technology is awesome and has helped SAR tremendously, but can never replace an actual person for all situations. With cell phones and other gps capable devices our call volume has gone down (at least perceived). The “lost person” is not as common, but SAR is utilized for many other situations. Urban settings have there challenges and advantages to finding a person. Volunteers are awesome and should never be discounted. I hope your leadership will wake up and realize how crippling that sentiment is for their community! - Lance
Interestingly enough we were activated last night to find and bring a 79 year old person out of the deep wilderness area. Drones could do none of the locating the the extremely tall timber in very steep topography. It took a team of 12 volunteers and two paid staff to bring them out. We did use technology to locate the general vicinity of his location with a cell phone ping. Then his cell phone died before we actually found him. Good old fashioned sound sweeps got the job done. That being said, our call volume is down. We are more often now looking for emotionally disturbed or mentally altered persons, carrying out injured hikers, and recovering deceased persons. Even though Technology has reduced the number of activations, when we are needed, there is nothing else that can do the job. - Joe
Keep it up guys, I've been doing SAR for over 25 years and you hit all the basics that need to be re-enforced constantly.
Thank you you for the encouragement! 25 years! that is awesome. Thank you for your service. - L
Loved your video. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment! - Lance
Keep up the great work,enjoy your videos
Thank you. we had a really busy summer, but are getting back to making videos! Thanks for your comment and encouragement. - L
I use that Coaxsher chest rig for my fire department for wildland and SAR callouts I HIGHLY recommend if you can afford it you purchase one
@@itsyaboimat2393 I Agree. Six years later I still use my Coaxsher chest rig as my primary accessory for carrying equipment in the field. Thank you for the comment. - Joe
I just ordered the blanket. Thanks!
Hope you like it! Thanks for watching! - Lance
What a great video. I don’t own this bike but I’m getting super interested in getting one and do some exploring. Keep up the good work. I’ll be using this video for some modifications you did.
Glad the video helped. Have fun exploring! - Lance
Nice bikes! I just picked mine up last week. Enjoyed your video and am subscribing. Where are you guys located? I'm in southern Oregon. GP
Thanks for subscribing and your comment. We are in Newport area. - Lance
One of the best features on CalTopo is the share location, being able to see everyone on the mission in real-time is great. (You can see team 1 is with the subject and team 2 is 30 mins out with the litter.) It works without cell data or Wi-Fi too.
Sweet
Glad you liked it
thanks!
No problem!
Came here to see some info about a Coaxsher chest rig. ( I just bought the molle harness to give me configuration options.) Found a couple of fellow Oregon SAR team members. Subbed to the channel. Thanks for the great work guys. Stay safe and thank you for serving your community.
Thanks for joining us! Let us know if you have suggestions on things that would be useful for your team or area! Thanks for serving your community. - Lance
@@2sarguys oh cool! Will do. ❤️
At 2:25 the gas cap appears to be upside down. I found the vented hole needs to be UP (forward), or it gets gummed up with lacquer and this has killed the engine on two occasions because the gas tank developed a small vacuum when the vent was gummed up. Easy fix: take the gas cap apart, clean out the vent hole gunk, install the cap with vent UP (forward). I marked the vent location on my gas cap, so it is easy to see and install correctly.
Thanks for the comment. I’m going to check that out. I honestly never think about the position of my gas cap. My thought was if it goes on it must be correct. I guess I might have been very lackadaisical when it comes to a fuel cap! - Lance
Showing the drone’s point-of-view was really effective in the demonstrations to see how the various signals might look to rescuers. Nice touch.
Glad it was helpful! We appreciate the comment. - Lance
Thanks for the tips! I'd also add I've found dried fern leaves underneath the top layer and anywhere you have big leaves that drop at the base of big trees, you can often find dried, crunchy ones depending on the time of year.
Great tip! Thanks Kathy! - Lance
Thanks for the easily digestible explanation👍 Just a heads up that the link in the description took me to a “currently unavailable” version of the Brunton compass. Your viewers must have cleaned ‘em out!
Thank you for the comment. I'll see if I can find a link to the Brunton compass that works. - Joe
Thank you guys.
You are welcome - thank you for the comment. - Joe
Good lesson fellas. Thanks.
Thank you. I appreciate your support! - Lance