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Definitely not worth changing. The only improvement would be using Dirac Live full suite. However, Audyssey does have their own version now.

Muphry's law.

Probably it does by a little, i have the Cinema 40, bi-amped... so that you have an abundance of power to the speakers... The Marantz do Bi-Amp without any problems whatsoever... Awesome stuff. If you really want to go crazy... Go Av10 and Amp10.. from Marantz..

The C30 supports a front height center channel. However, it doesn’t function like an over and under the TV center like the Sony models. The front height center the C30 supports works with Auro-3D layouts, not as a means to center dialog in the center of the TV like the Sony’s. -Jon

In you had to choose between the sony 7000 and the m30 what would you choose personally.

@@xpxtremedon’t want to budge in but for music Marantz, for movies could be a draw. Marantz has cleaner pre out section because it physically disconnects internal amps, Sony does not. Sony does better spacial effects though - but no good subwoofer integration. Ideally for movies with Sony you would have miniDSP with Dirac BC for subwoofer integration, external amp for main channels. Or simply getting amp for main LCR and Marantz with DLBC license. Also sometime later Dirac ART will be released and rumored to be supported by this gen - total game changer in room correction. I personally would go with Marantz on a premise of getting ART.

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@@RipewaveXpress wow that’s so great. Thank you 🙏🏼

Thanks!

Sometimes- while full Auro-3D fan would say “Yes” in all cases, I feel it depends on the content. -Jon

1000 thanks, i see yours video all the time You the best😊 i have order the 30 now and and looking fore what the best setup is, front wide or 6 i the seiling

Thanks for the correction. You are correct. -Jon

50w per channel all channels driven

Thanks for raising as I was not aware of the improvements to HEOS in these latest models. It is worth investigating. -Jon

That is true. No Denon or Marantz products support HDBaseT. While I list the feature for one row, it is not selected “green” for these models. -Jon

Youthman has these posted on his website: youthmanreviews.com/harman-target-curves-for-dirac-live/

My aim is focus on both sound and measurements. I was producing videos which did not include measurements, and this audience asked for the measurements to be brought back. I agree. We need both. The measurements should always come last. I make my listening assessment first and then see if my observations can be explained using measurements. What the measurements is able to do is pinpoint where the problem is, then I can try to correct for it. My ears often just know it isn't right, not what is wrong. I agree that it is possible to achieve better result through manual calibrations rather then costly auto-correction tools. However, I find only a niche group of enthusiasts have the technical know-how and willingness to learn that skill and execute. Distance and loudness are important starting points and can be adjusted by ear. The more speakers and subwoofers you add, the harder it gets. I don't think I would be able to correctly select cross-over points and phase correction without a measurement tool (either manual or automatic). I do think you point is fair as I have experienced auto-corrections that fail to produce good results despite paying extra for them. In the case with my recent experience, I feel that the tools made improvements. I will attempt full manual corrections later this year, but that will be measurement assisted settings using REW. Jon

It is a safe option, but an expensive option at $6,500 USD. What speaker count and layout are you looking to support? Are your speakers efficient (8 ohm / 90db sensitivity) or hard to drive (4 ohm / 85db sensitivity)? -Jon

@@RipewaveXpress my all speakers are Polk signature series like Tower ES60 , center ES30 , surround ES15 , Atmos RC80i , Sub HTS 12 for 2 nos

Sir what about upcoming marantz cinema 30 ?

Sir, excellent work, love the detailed review, reminds me of an interesting college class. Please review class d power amps for home theater, like Buckeye, D-Sonic ,etc. We like your sonic feedback as you did with the RZ 50, Cinema 50 etc. Thanks . How do these class D amps actually sound?. Love your work sir.

If you need extra channels of processing, yes. Feature set is the same aside from DTS:x pro support which the extra channels give you on the x6800. It will come down to the sound quality difference which I am assessing now if this other items don’t matter to you. There is a case where someone just wants more power, then there is some benefit, but not a lot compared to the x4800. From the x3800 it is more compelling power improvement. -Jon

Glad this condensed option is finding an audience -Jon

Fair point now that I know how the Denon renders the filter. At the time I didn’t know what was going to present on the Denon side. Since Denon is going to label as Dirac Live, it is redundant as you say. Great suggestion. Jon

I imagine that show how immersive audio has expanded with more speaker channels and more powerful amplifiers. Thanks for raising, I did not know the X6700 was the flagship on initial release. -Jon

@@RipewaveXpress your paying more money now for a middle of the range receiver

That is true, and unfortunate

Great question. I just thought they may have produced a small batch to ensure quality and get some feedback before fu production, but if they are saying months before restock, that sounds like something more. We will have to monitor the situation. -Jon

I will be adding to my Marantz Cinema 50 today - we will see how it compares. I will say that the standard ful range Dirac Live is an improvement over Audyssey. The Bass Control will likely separate Dirac further from Audyssey results. -Jon

My pleasure!