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The DVS Webinar Series: The First Folio Foolery
Starring Rosemary Loughlin (moderator) Joella Werlin, Amanda Hinds; Frank Lawler, Richard Clifford, Annabel Leventon (Panel and interludes)
The first webinar in our DVS series includes proposals by Joella Werlin and Amanda Hinds based on their essays. Encouraging questions from the audience to be addressed by themselves and the panel on three main topics: i) the deliberate theatrical subterfuge of the prefaces to the First Folio pointing obliquely to William of Stratford as the author; ii) the extended Oxford/Herbert/Sidney family involved in the subterfuge and production of the First Folio; iii) the role of William Stanley 6th Earl of Derby in publishing the plays of his father-in-law Edward de Vere 17th Earl of Oxford and editing the First Folio.
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'My Beloved The AUTHOR' - Ben Jonson's Encomium to Shakespeare
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With readings from Derek Jacobi, Annabel Leventon, Costa Chard and Richard Clifford I explain to a packed audience at London's Charterhouse what Ben Jonson knew about his beloved 'Mr VVILLIAM SHAKESPEARE'
Roger Stritmatter - video pre recorded
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Roger Stritmatter - video pre recorded
Mark Rylance: Opening scene of The Tempest
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Mark Rylance: Opening scene of The Tempest
Derek Jacobi: Prospero, from The Tempest
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Derek Jacobi: Prospero, from The Tempest
Thomas Regnier Veritas Award for Alexander Waugh awarded by Earl Showerman
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Thomas Regnier Veritas Award for Alexander Waugh awarded by Earl Showerman
Phoebe Nir: TikTok and the SAQ
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Phoebe Nir: TikTok and the SAQ
Reading: Rose Garden Scene from Henry VI Part 1
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Reading: Rose Garden Scene from Henry VI Part 1
Amanda Eliasch: Excerpts from her new film
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Amanda Eliasch: Excerpts from her new film
Fabrice Collot: John Florio’s hand in the Epistle Dedicatory
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Fabrice Collot: John Florio’s hand in the Epistle Dedicatory
Reading: Epistle Dedicatory to the First Folio
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Reading: Epistle Dedicatory to the First Folio
Derek Jacobi Henry V, Prologue V1B
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Derek Jacobi Henry V, Prologue V1B
Annabel Leventon - A Winter’s Tale
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Annabel Leventon - A Winter’s Tale
The Droeshout portrait
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The Droeshout portrait
Kevin Gilvary - Introduction to FF
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Kevin Gilvary - Introduction to FF
Charles Duff - An introduction to the Charterhouse
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Charles Duff - An introduction to the Charterhouse
The De Vere Society Highlights
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The De Vere Society Highlights

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  • @MrMjolnir69
    @MrMjolnir69 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looked genuinely surprised! That's fine. And just found out about his BIZARRE illness. Any umbrella tips or stumbles into his shoulder in a corridor at Oxford or a train platform etc. please let me/us know.

  • @hughbarton5743
    @hughbarton5743 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have "acted", more or less, for about 40 years. In that tumblehome history, and had the great good fortune to do about 25 of his plays. You non-actors? Ever seen a play by Kit Marlowe produced? Nope.Hmm.... Any other contemporary work? Didn't stand the passage of time. This guy was special. Can I explain his volatile, searching mind? I cannot.

  • @TheBlondeSunset
    @TheBlondeSunset หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dynamic speaker.

  • @Nope.Unknown
    @Nope.Unknown หลายเดือนก่อน

    My only quibble is we don't get to see Earl, the kitten! 😻 Wonderful! As usual, I've learned something new and have a million questions to follow up on with more reading. Yay!

  • @chinchin1553
    @chinchin1553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    J T Looney had mentioned that the 3rd earl of Southampton paid 1000 pound to Shaksper and also Elizabeth Trentham's will gave a large sum of to a dump man to act as a front man.

  • @thelexsoto
    @thelexsoto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    he's rocking Shakespeare's hair style. modern bard

  • @lyndabarron8548
    @lyndabarron8548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This authorship business is wearing a bit thin. It doesn't have anything to do with promoting that film in which two particular actors are featued, by any chance?

  • @JaneHallstrom1
    @JaneHallstrom1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved both videos! I guess I’ll surrender and finally get the TikTok app. Looking forward to watching all of Phoebe! 👏👏👏👏 - and maybe a tech savvy person can clean up the echoing portion of the video that lasts about a minute early in the presentation?

  • @jancole9100
    @jancole9100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very likely that Jonson met and knew Edward de Vere. See deveresociety.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/16D_JCole-April-2016-p30-37.pdf

  • @harringtonday5319
    @harringtonday5319 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful! Thank you.

  • @6deste
    @6deste 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was amazing, incredible research. Thanks for posting. Would love to know how Alexander is getting on ?

  • @Turkaine
    @Turkaine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🙌

  • @KieranRobinson-zz6ug
    @KieranRobinson-zz6ug 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting he didn't say from daddy and mommy. Is he her stepfather

    • @mt.shasta6097
      @mt.shasta6097 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is/was the girl's stepfather. He doesn't name the daughter, though. Rylance lost one of his two stepdaughters in 2012, an event that devastated him. A terrible tragedy.

  • @LuciferFitzgeraldChrist
    @LuciferFitzgeraldChrist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it is about, among many other things, this years nuclear war....and/or the 2024 nuclear war. and the end of america. #StrawberryFatFuck is in there over and over again. and not to be praised.

  • @heartofjesusdj
    @heartofjesusdj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you understand Elizabethan England and stop attempting to paste modern day thinking and society on Elizabethan England then you will know that lowborn commoners had no possibility of attaining to the level of learning required to write the plays. Most people were illiterate. There were no public libraries, no Google.

  • @MAKOBITE
    @MAKOBITE 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hard to believe anyone could doubt that Shakespeare was the author of his plays. It's just so stupid. And yet there are Rylance and Jacobi, among them. So many contemporaries attest to his being a great playwright and actor, owner of the theatre with Burbage, his whole life in Stratford documented, what is there to question? So ridiculous.

    • @KieranRobinson-zz6ug
      @KieranRobinson-zz6ug 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Help me out I really want to believe it was William completely

    • @MrGyges
      @MrGyges หลายเดือนก่อน

      So ridiculous indeed.

    • @DonWhisner
      @DonWhisner หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are misinformed.

    • @burntgod7165
      @burntgod7165 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DonWhisner You have to elaborate on your assertion. The burden is on you.

    • @marichristian
      @marichristian 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have Rylance and Jacobi gone soft in the head? I'm beginning to see the makings of a De Vere cult.

  • @adamglasser-t1s
    @adamglasser-t1s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Moving … wonderful as ever, Mark Rylance thank you

  • @MrAbzu
    @MrAbzu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Florio played an outsize role for an under appreciated man. Will he ever get the credit for his work? Good show.

  • @traceyolsen308
    @traceyolsen308 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is beloved spelt with a u, author with a v and us with a v? Were letters usually swapped around like this or is it another number puzzle game or whatever? Something else , if the calendar was altered the way John Dee suggested de Vere's birthday would be on 23 April, a coincidence? + according to 'on this day' Anne Hathaway and Ben Jonson died the same day 6.8(1623 and 1637), another coincidence? + the ring they found in the Rose theatre that reads PENCES.POV R. MOY E.DV (I'm trying to imitate the spacing)..is this a remembrance ring for him? Thank you for these interesting lectures. ..It would be so nice if DNA tests etc could be taken on as many of the people involved as possible, to check who's related to who, how they died and any other information we could get about them.Hopefully we can get these answers fairly soon?

  • @regmunday8354
    @regmunday8354 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ever since reading about Sir Henry Neville, I have considered him the strongest contender as the main author of the Shakespeare plays. Someone highly educated, wealthy and well travelled. Never liked the claims it must be an already famous writer/poet, like Marlowe or Bacon.

  • @apokalupsishistoria
    @apokalupsishistoria 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:36 If Rylance wants a synchronicity within a synchronicity, July 26 is Jung’s birthday.

  • @brooke1496
    @brooke1496 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    king james made the Bible print that everyone today finds superior. the king james version of the bible is superior in spain and england

  • @janenelson3112
    @janenelson3112 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In 1572 Henri of Navarre married Marguerite de Valois. His second wife was Marie de Medicis whom he married in 1600.

    • @brooke1496
      @brooke1496 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it just simply wasn't Oxford. he could have inspired some of the text, but he didn't print it

  • @Northcountry1926
    @Northcountry1926 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful Presentation 🙏🏼

  • @Northcountry1926
    @Northcountry1926 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂😂 He’s Great !

  • @DrWrapperband
    @DrWrapperband 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superb, much thanks.

  • @kingman.mp4
    @kingman.mp4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating

  • @MrAbzu
    @MrAbzu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is brilliant, it really helps put things in perspective. In those days it was too dangerous for Lords to write plays even under a pseudonym. They passed ideas and revisions to script writers who did the menial work of organizing the scenes and acts into plays. There is evidence that both Oxford and Bacon used the pseudonym William Shakespeare with the Anne Cornwallys book and the Northumberland manuscript, and this filtered through to the script writers. My thoughts................. The absurdities and minutiae of Stratfordian theology is amusing. You worship a fake Jesus. Shakespeare had a lucrative career as a theater gangster along with some menial theater work. His money trail with no known lucrative employment is just too obvious. Most theater work was done more as a hobby, some had regular jobs others ran criminal activities out back. Henslowe ran two brothels and a theater, a likely start where Will may have found his first best bed. And then there is the rap sheet with threats and restraining orders and tax evasion. It is amazing how people have made a career from the butt of a Vicars joke, from a catchall pseudonym. Only one play ever performed got people locked up for sedition and only the first act survives. So why not use the name of a petty crook who could not write a lick as the source of the plays? It kept everyone involved safe in the prison state that was Elizabethan England. And that is why the Puritans could not wait to close the theaters down once King Charles l got his head chopped off. Stratfordian theology is a vain attempt to impose modern sensibilities on the past. Florio had the final edit, his unique words are well represented in the First Folio. And for every unique word being used how many dozens of common words did Florio use that he will never get credit for? Florio was at the beginning with Leicester's Men who were using Sir Thomas North's material in some plays and he was at the end with Ben Jonson. Florio is the genius who pulled it altogether at the end with a unifying voice. Everybody who was anyone who sought to influence popular opinions of the day had a scriptorium. Plays were the newspapers of the day and scriptoriums were how the Lordly class had their propaganda inserted into the plays. Some characters in the plays were used to lampoon public figures in sly and subtle ways by borrowing lines and actions from real life. With new innovations constantly being inserted, the plays were in a constant state of flux. The plays of that time were intended to be a fluid manner of communication to the public which no single author could possibly keep up with. This is also why we can find the voices of North, Oxford, Bacon and others echoing through the plays. This form of public discourse was slowly replaced by newspapers and other printed material as literacy and wages improved. The First Folio is a beautiful homage to a unique moment in time. Good show.

  • @rooruffneck
    @rooruffneck 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When will this be available for viewing?

  • @TheBlondeSunset
    @TheBlondeSunset 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bravo!

  • @Nope.Unknown
    @Nope.Unknown 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @vetstadiumastroturf5756
    @vetstadiumastroturf5756 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The "graver" is de Vere. It originates in Philip Sidney's response to de Vere's Were i A King. The word is conspicuous in the dedication of V&A (graver labour). The most famous scene in all Shakespeare (arguably) is the grave scene in Hamlet. When you see the word Grave in Shakespeare, it probably refers back to de Vere in some way. Were I a king I could command content; Were I obscure unknown should be my cares, And were I dead no thought should me torment, Nor words, nor wrongs, nor loves, nor hopes, nor fears; A doubtful choice of these things one to crave, A kingdom or a cottage or a grave. Sidney's reply Wert thou a King yet not command content, Since empire none thy mind could yet suffice, Wert thou obscure still cares would thee torment; But wert thou dead, all care and sorrow dies; An easy choice of these things which to crave, No kingdom nor a cottage but a grave.

  • @josephsolowyk7697
    @josephsolowyk7697 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are a great man, God bless you sir.

  • @hellbooks3024
    @hellbooks3024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DeVere didn’t know squat.

    • @lorenzo-kc9og
      @lorenzo-kc9og 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sirbacon.org/downloads/The_1623_Shakespeare_First_Folio_A_Bacon.pdf

  • @duderama6750
    @duderama6750 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When entertainers get knighthoods you know the nobility is wasted on their own fantasy.

  • @jamessupplee7289
    @jamessupplee7289 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the way he sets up the play as a situation where it's all open and has not happened yet. Very inviting!

  • @patricktilton5377
    @patricktilton5377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got my copy of the 3-volume GREAT OXFORD volumes. I can hardly wait until Waugh publishes a volume all his own exemplifying all the magnificent work he has done in TH-cam videos and De Vere Society newsletter articles. And let me add my voice to those wishing him a full recovery from the prostate cancer issues he has had to deal with of late. One note: around 38 minutes, in there is mention of Priscian. I would like to point all concerned people here to a magnificent book published in 1978 titled "Dante's Swift and Strong: Essays on INFERNO XV" by Richard Kay. In the 2nd of 10 chapters, Kay discusses "Natural Grammar and Priscian's Perversity" -- for Priscian is condemned to Dante's Hell for having committed the sin of 'Sodom' -- which has been misinterpreted as Homosexuality (i.e. 'Sodomy') by Dantists, when in fact there is no evidence whatsoever in any of the sources that have survived that ANY of the sinners condemned in the 3rd Ring of the 7th Circle of Hell were ever known to be Homosexuals, i.e. guilty of sins of sexual perversion. That 3rd ring of the 7th Circle is where those who were Violent against God, Nature, or Art are punished, and Kay argues that Priscian's sin was that he "violated nature by treating linguistic phenomena, which by nature are relative, dynamic, and manmade, as if they were absolute, static, and autonomous." Dante, in his COMMEDIA, describes implicit themes regarding Man as a language-using Being after having explicitly dealt with the subject in his "De Vulgari Eloquentia" and his "Convivio." It would be too much for me to go into here, but I recommend Kay's excellent book to those seeking a better understanding of Dante's thought on Language -- especially how Priscian the Grammarian deserves Damnation for his perversions of the Intellect in regards to his "majestic 'Institutiones grammaticae' . . . a magisterial treatise of imposing length" -- more than 974 pages in standard modern editions, according to Kay. Students fluent in a vernacular language such as Italian, attempting to learn how to write/speak/read Latin (i.e. what is meant by Priscian as "grammar"), would be needlessly encumbered by a superfluity of rules and regulations all out of proportion to what is necessary to learn and know in order to be able to become proficient in Latin -- to be contrasted with the works of another grammarian, Donatus, whose " 'Ars maior' runs to 36 pages, his 'Ars minor' to but 12." Dante places Donatus in Heaven for his status as a grammarian: as Kay states, "in the Dantesque Heaven he is only remembered as an elementary grammarian: "that Donatus who deigned to set his hand to the first art" (quel Donato / ch'a la prim' arte degno porre mano")." Oxfordians have argued that Shakespeare had read Dante -- Oxford having spent upwards of a year in Italy. It would not surprise me if De Vere had a better understanding of the sin of Priscian -- as Dante implicitly described it, in contrast to Donatus' salvation in the 'PARADISO', the Heaven of the Sun -- than 'mainstream' (mis-)understandings of the 'Sodomy' cantos of the INFERNO. Dante sure seems to be suggesting that a person fluent in a vernacular language would be better off reading 48 pages written by Donatus rather than 974+ pages written by Priscian if seeking to become proficient in Latin, in order to benefit from the riches to be reaped from a study of the Latin classics. Ars longa, vita brevis, after all . . .

  • @chrissyward5539
    @chrissyward5539 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bravo, Sir.

  • @chrissyward5539
    @chrissyward5539 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Classy and succinct!

  • @chrissyward5539
    @chrissyward5539 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wouldn't be caught dead in an almshouse! Hilarious

  • @MrAbzu
    @MrAbzu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't help but wonder if they had a kind of sanitarium for frustrated writers called a scriptorium back in those days. Bacon had one and his handwriting is in the revisions. Maybe the concept of the lone playwright in the writing of the plays is in error. Maybe we need to look for a broader form of authorship through the medium of various scriptoriums supported by lords for theater groups. How else can we account for Lordly knowledge in the plays and the absence of any plays written in the hand of any Lord? Surely the evidence for, Bacon, Oxford, North and Florio suggests a more gradual genesis of the First Folio. What a novel idea, a way for everyone to be partly right with Shakespeare as the patsy. Good show.

  • @rstritmatter
    @rstritmatter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a truly impressive work of entertaining analysis. Another tour de force from Alexander Waugh and de Vere Society members!

  • @6deste
    @6deste 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic stuff, thanks Roger

  • @seanodonovan5451
    @seanodonovan5451 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid! Fyi These uploads don't show up in many searches because of the lack of hashtags and description. And there are two Devere Society channels.

    • @TheDeVereSociety
      @TheDeVereSociety 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the advice which we will take onboard and in answer to your question, this channel is the new official DVS TH-cam channel which will be the only place to view our upcoming video content.

  • @varkony60
    @varkony60 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There we can see the name of Oxford. Just saying.

  • @6deste
    @6deste 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great talk, very interesting.

  • @6deste
    @6deste 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff, very fun.

  • @6deste
    @6deste 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautifully and powerfully spoken.

  • @6deste
    @6deste 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredibly well deserved.

  • @6deste
    @6deste 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic, very interesting indeed.