The man purposefully shot to the right of his head. You can see the gun moving a bit to the right, before the shot. Algren knew that, thats why he smirked.
As much as i love this movie, this is probably one of the biggest historical inaccuracies. At least concerning the time period and the state of Japan's military at the time. By this time the japanese military was closer to how they are portrayed by the end of the movie in how efficient and functional they were as a military as apposed to how they are portrayed here. Basically by THIS point in the movie if they were following history closer, the japanese military was more refined and experienced then they are shown.
Soldiers were already accustomed with guns since Europeans came to 16th century Japan. These people either live on top of a mountain or just plain stupid to not use the rifle properly.
And also assuming this is set in the 1870s era wouldnt there not just be traditional loading musket rifles but also breechloading rifles or even carbines would have been available and hence faster firepower for the Japanese army? Or due to technological advances hence there was not the need to equip them with such weaponry?
Wouldnt they have trained the Japanese conscripts also in use of artillery and also the Gatling gun cannons earlier instead of just usinf Muskets or Rifles?
Lol I always find this scene stupid. Of course the soldier won't shoot the instructor ! I get what he wants to prove, but the mean is Bad. I mean, what is the good action? Shoot and kill the instructor? Lol imagine if he did shoot him : "well... They're ready, tell that to the next instructor... Arg!"
1:35 Upon hearing Algren's aggression and his desire to prove his point, Omura slowly shuffles away from Algren's line of sight and to the back of Bagley. Later we see him hunched over and cowering behind the Colonel while his own bodyguard (the man with the birthmark on his cheek), General Hasegawa, Gant, and Bagley were all standing still as Algren fired his pistol shots. Later on we also we Ogawa framed with the cowardly recruit. The recruit not brave enough to fight the enemy while Ogawa was cowardly enough to sell his country to the enemies.
I swear this scene pops up in my feed once a month… still click on it every time. Though have seen better, this is 10fps… You can’t do this realistically, you don’t know who’d you end up hitting with ricochets.
That's right, but away from his "suicide-ambitions" he also wanted to save the lives of this poorly trained men. Showing his commanding officer that those recruits were not ready for duty even if their life was at stake....
Just some backstory: Cruise's character is suicidal the first half of this film because he was part of a massacre of women and children Native Americans under orders by the US military. It haunts him and he has nightmares and escapes into drink.
Ukrainian conscripts: "We are not ready..." Zelensky: "You'll storm the trenches and attack the Russians next week, we have superior firepower and a larger force."
This is the dumbest test. What to point out? What's wrong with this one? You're expecting a soldier to follow orders and shoot and kill a commanding officer. How can you expect one of your own troops to follow orders and shoot you? I be worried if I got lined up and be shot and killed.
I really like the quiet "shoot me, damn it". The realization in Algren's eyes when Bagley matter-of-factley says he's ordering the conscripts - no matter how inexperienced - against the Samurai, realization that yet again he's being forced into slaughter for no reason. He chose the kid who he knew could shoot accurately because he wanted him to kill him, he wasn't ready to go back into that hell again, not after what happened in his own homeland. I don't think Algren gave a damn about proving a point, I think he just that desperate to be out of the fight.
Did that solider who he taught to shoot survive the movie? I know he survived the forest battle, but I never thought to see if he was in the ranks at the final battle.
Katsumoto's men were warriors. These men are conscripts - mostly workers & farmers, not Samurai. Big difference. As many western armies have learned over the centuries, it takes TIME to make regular men into soldiers. You can't rush untrained or undertrained men into battle. You're sending them to their deaths.
Nice details: 01:40 the lower officer doesn't flinch when everyone else does. At the end, you can tell one of the Samurai nobles slyly smiles as he passes by, a small sign of respect.
They needed Sgt Major Mulchey.
Plot twist: the samurai aren't ready for them
It's also the fact that he praised this guy like a minute earlier - it's just so good.
Small but amazing detail in my opinion. But at 1:40 when Algren shoots, everyone flinches except the war veterans.
Wtf, japan had had access to firearms for approximately 300 years by this point.
Giving someone a firearm does not a soldier make.
he’s not fear death but sometimes he wish for it is this not so?
The man purposefully shot to the right of his head. You can see the gun moving a bit to the right, before the shot. Algren knew that, thats why he smirked.
Myanmar in a nutshell in 2022
2:11 Intense sound
1:06
As much as i love this movie, this is probably one of the biggest historical inaccuracies. At least concerning the time period and the state of Japan's military at the time. By this time the japanese military was closer to how they are portrayed by the end of the movie in how efficient and functional they were as a military as apposed to how they are portrayed here. Basically by THIS point in the movie if they were following history closer, the japanese military was more refined and experienced then they are shown.
Yes because like you said it's a movie not a documentary
But then you wouldn't be able to have Tom Cruise ride in and save the day....
Soldiers were already accustomed with guns since Europeans came to 16th century Japan. These people either live on top of a mountain or just plain stupid to not use the rifle properly.
And also assuming this is set in the 1870s era wouldnt there not just be traditional loading musket rifles but also breechloading rifles or even carbines would have been available and hence faster firepower for the Japanese army? Or due to technological advances hence there was not the need to equip them with such weaponry?
Wouldnt they have trained the Japanese conscripts also in use of artillery and also the Gatling gun cannons earlier instead of just usinf Muskets or Rifles?
Anyway very good movie
Lol I always find this scene stupid. Of course the soldier won't shoot the instructor ! I get what he wants to prove, but the mean is Bad. I mean, what is the good action? Shoot and kill the instructor? Lol imagine if he did shoot him : "well... They're ready, tell that to the next instructor... Arg!"
1:29 Ogawa immediately steps back when Algren shouts at Mr. Graham lol what a cowardly rat bastard
1:35 Upon hearing Algren's aggression and his desire to prove his point, Omura slowly shuffles away from Algren's line of sight and to the back of Bagley. Later we see him hunched over and cowering behind the Colonel while his own bodyguard (the man with the birthmark on his cheek), General Hasegawa, Gant, and Bagley were all standing still as Algren fired his pistol shots. Later on we also we Ogawa framed with the cowardly recruit. The recruit not brave enough to fight the enemy while Ogawa was cowardly enough to sell his country to the enemies.
0:50 White man on the right talking he looks like one of my cousin but Hmong Asian.
They’re not ready because I ordered them to kill me their commanding officer and he didn’t do it
This is what happen when we Japanese use something made by US 🤣
Did the calm Japanese guys appear again? I don't remember their characters
What look of tom
I swear this scene pops up in my feed once a month… still click on it every time. Though have seen better, this is 10fps… You can’t do this realistically, you don’t know who’d you end up hitting with ricochets.
"How do you feel going into work?" Me...
He knew the rookie would miss but hoped he wouldn’t…
The Japanese recruit was holding the rifle poorly; his left hand should have been more forward to steady it better.
He put that recruit in a very difficult situation. Poor guy
That's right, but away from his "suicide-ambitions" he also wanted to save the lives of this poorly trained men. Showing his commanding officer that those recruits were not ready for duty even if their life was at stake....
They copied this from Glory.
how he algren not shoot someone behind the soldier is true magic.
Samurai "Milord why arent we using guns like them? Do you find it dishonorable?" Lord "Nah we just ran out of bullets"
Surprisingly they have arrows that are harder to come by.
@@blackpowderkun they can make them though right?
@@dramaking9559 arrow heads are easy enough to make, for the shaft and fletching they could go cheap.
The officer was right, so long as the general could set up their defense, some of the bullets are gonna end up hitting
Just some backstory: Cruise's character is suicidal the first half of this film because he was part of a massacre of women and children Native Americans under orders by the US military. It haunts him and he has nightmares and escapes into drink.
Ukrainian conscripts: "We are not ready..." Zelensky: "You'll storm the trenches and attack the Russians next week, we have superior firepower and a larger force."
USA: You have superior fire power and a large force Vietnam: really?
Similar scene in “Glory”
The only dumb scene in this movie. The poor guy didn´t know whats going on and was afraid he would get executed for shooting Algren.
the guy hit headshot. Credit rolls.
Cruise at his best. Well done scene.
This is the dumbest test. What to point out? What's wrong with this one? You're expecting a soldier to follow orders and shoot and kill a commanding officer. How can you expect one of your own troops to follow orders and shoot you? I be worried if I got lined up and be shot and killed.
Man dropped his ramrod while loading - he was NOT ready at all
I really like the quiet "shoot me, damn it". The realization in Algren's eyes when Bagley matter-of-factley says he's ordering the conscripts - no matter how inexperienced - against the Samurai, realization that yet again he's being forced into slaughter for no reason. He chose the kid who he knew could shoot accurately because he wanted him to kill him, he wasn't ready to go back into that hell again, not after what happened in his own homeland. I don't think Algren gave a damn about proving a point, I think he just that desperate to be out of the fight.
The flute is the sound of Death arriving. The Warriors, regardless of nation, know it well and do not flinch.
Training. It all comes down to training.
Did that solider who he taught to shoot survive the movie? I know he survived the forest battle, but I never thought to see if he was in the ranks at the final battle.
Dude testing the power of plot armor.
Katsumoto's men were warriors. These men are conscripts - mostly workers & farmers, not Samurai. Big difference. As many western armies have learned over the centuries, it takes TIME to make regular men into soldiers. You can't rush untrained or undertrained men into battle. You're sending them to their deaths.
whoever like to watch movies must be glad they levied in this era to encounter this jewel of a movie ,,,,, an absolute top top notch
Nice details: 01:40 the lower officer doesn't flinch when everyone else does. At the end, you can tell one of the Samurai nobles slyly smiles as he passes by, a small sign of respect.
he’s an Nco to be exact, and NCOs were typically long service soldiers