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Spent a year in a half playing a bad dnd campaign, the DM would never listen to feedback. Started with 7 people ended with 4. Vet DM just wanted control more than anything. Long story short none of us hang out anymore...

I wish D&D wasn't the default roleplaying game newbies not only are expecting, but also won't have any flexibility on playing anything else, despite having zero experience with any RPGs. So many other options not only have better mechanics, but as far as combat mechanics go, D&D is probably the worst - no knockback/knockdown, armor penetration, etc.. You essentially hit or you miss. Zzz

Yes

You know you can play other systems, right?

I remember hearing from a DND vet that, throughout their maybe decade of experience, they had NO good memories because they didn't enjoy the tables they were at and the people they played with and the hundreds of dollars they invested. It really shook me to my core, as I had only been playing DND for about a year at the time yet it thoroughly changed my life for the better in terms of making friends in my life. The distance in our experiences made me realize how self-destructive this hobby can be if you don't take it correctly. No DND is better than Bad DND.

how many inches later are we talking about🤨🤨🤨🤨

I wasted many many hours on bad dnd. It started really good. But it got progressively worse. I and some co-players tried to talk to the GM. He always said he appreciated feedback - but if we gave it to him, he disregarded it, and suggested that we were the problem, or that 'he is no Matt Mercer'. Thats the thing... We didn't want a Mercer - but he tried to be one. That was the issue. Or that he disregarded the players wishes, backstory and own agency. Or clear preferential treatment. He made our characters fit his story, and couldn't take a no as an answer. And the story was filled with major characters from both the Sword coast and Mercers campaigns - which made sure to remind us how badass they are, and were not... Only that they essentially did nothing, and added nothing to the story. Once there was a point where the campaign could have ended, but no, that was just a red herring. I wish I had stopped then. The whole game devolved into some kind of arbitrary base builing game at some point. And arbitrarily we couldn't use some of our features for large swaths of the time. Then there were the battles. Don't get me wrong some strategic battles are fun. But it was basebuilding, invasions, bosses for some reason that wasn't clear to anyone. Than a year downtime - in game. We could either invest it into multiple not so minor homebrew feats, or choose to invest some quantity to build connections, research or progress to some personal goal. Everyone who didn't decide to pump it all into the feats and skills basically got a sh1t-sandwich, no matter how thought out their plans were. For large swarhes of the later campaign ability for casters were hindered or outright blocked. Like wildmagic affecting certain schools or during the next appearently final battle and the preperations before, teleportation (down to misty step) were blocked completly. Except for some reason the children critroles Percy and Vex were somehow able to teleport us the "final boss"... Which again, was another red herring, and the real BBEG and twist villain (that nobody cared about) used this time to achieve its goals. We then realized it, rushed to it (only to realize that it was to late) being monologued, given no chance (despite options being there) to intervene... And the villain fled to Tal'Dorei where we needed to follow. Thats where I finally gave up. Again, the only regret I hold that I didn't do it way sooner. My now DM and former CO-player in that campaing said it only got worse and he regretted not quitting as well.

As long as you enjoy your session than everything is alright. If you do not enjoy your session because you can't meet your expectations than I agree.

XD The fuck!?

The nice thing is we have versions of DnD that we know work. So even if they update coming versions to be bad, we have tried and true stuff!

I had a DM who was so bad that I stopped playing, even when it was the only DnD available. He was just so frustratingly bad that it make my day worse. However, that's rare. Mediocre DnD is definitely better than none.

very few things in life are worse than bad d&d.

Well said. People sometimes use this phrase to mean "if your game isn't perfect, leave." If you follow that advice, you'll just never get to play D&D, so it's a matter of scale. If your "bad" D&D is still fun, then stick with it.

as the only dm in my group i have one word. real

I have no idea why this was recommended to me, but ill comment just for the algorithm. I have several groups of friends and almost all of them play D&D. Ive played it twice and got really bored about an hour and a half in both times. The different groups tell me that i played it wrong but i really dont care. So yes, no D&D is better than bad D&D 😂

We determine the DM for the next campaign. By who did the worst job during the current. It’s always funny when it comes to the time, to point fingers and decide.

What’s a DM ?

personally. i have the town guards jump them. it's fitting and can't really be stopped

this is where all the dead and banished people come back later in the campaign as a hoard of lesser litches or greater litches

I was expecting the old man to have 7 canaries.

make a running list of all dead during the course of the campaign... oops, the enemy is a lich that consumes the souls of the dead in the town and they come back as a hoard of lvl 10 zombie berserkers oh man

Perfect moment to teach a player that actions got consequences.

I would've said "For some reason, an elder fire elemental comes out like a snake-shaped fire column yelling in ignan 'Bring me more children to feast on!' Now roll initiative!"

On the door: A little dog comes out. Next session: Introduce the fantasy version of John Wick.

all of my npcs are gods so if a player trys and kills one of them i just say it does nothing or have them instantly killed by 9th level spells cast with infinite bonus actions

The old man is Odin in disguise, and after the players character is dead, take a break, a stern talking to, and if he argues, well the door is always open to leave lol

I don't think the DM prepared a genocide route

If im a player at that table like 90% of my characters would have fought that character real quick for that shit.

A lot of dragons can cast illusions to pretend to be human. Metallic dragons only attack people who attack them. Have fun

i bet that first guy was going to be one of the antagonists. then he changed his mind and have the child has the antagonist.

Suddenly a group of level 16 paladins with a cleric march in and looking at a poster they have it’s your character…. There here for you. (Player is level 7)

I have only had this problem once at my table. At least this bad. So I sent the party to a town filled with high level retired gladiators. The first time the punchdruk murder hobo pulled this he got roflstomped by a lvl 20 tabaxi monk selling apples. He was mad asf but he mellowed out after that.

Me in that moment: you now see an old man with 6 canaries.

This is how you get kicked out of a game. Like, honestly, I hear this horror story so often, but who the heck keeps inviting these people back to the table?

POV: fighters

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS DUDE I JUST HIT PEOPLE WITH DOORS THAT I STOLE

Ah, the classic level 20 retired hero could always help you out.

This is how you get a new BBEG

this is when you pull the Elder gold dragon encounter

Oof

You guys are really fortunate to have friends (or at least each other) with similar attitude to play D&D with. Playing with strangers is a different kettle of fish. You never know what you’re gonna get. That’s when bad D&D can happen for me.

Heck yeah! Absolutely baller video! I appreciate you guys!

Back in 2e TSR released several 1-on-1 adventure modules and apparently they’re quite good. I’m thinking of repurposing them myself… when I have time to read through them which is never. 😅 I love the idea of 1-on-1 games but not sure how players feel about it. Can be difficult to get them to be free to even line up one of these with flakey players.

I run somewhere between low combat and very low combat campaigns, so I like to give a lot of miscellaneous consumables. Varying potions, scrolls and I just create some fun stuff. A harmonica that gives +1 to every roll (old school bard song). I like to give stuff that encourages problem solving. Potion of flying, spider climb, water breathing, enlarge etc. Gave a shield that could use Produce Flame to a rogue. If anything that can be used exactly 1 way (eg weapon) that’s boring. Not in my game.

Wow memorised the DMG page number. I don’t think I’ve even looked at it. 😅

Good tips!

It also has to be challenging, nice video I like iy just came across it randomly in my shorts and I dont even typically watch content about D&D so algorithm is working keep it up

Good content. Social interactions are the best.