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Hi Ann, Thanks for watching and commenting with your thoughts! Much appreciated! Were the practice strategies I shared in this video still too much for where you are at this time on your trumpet? Another person commented here and asked about practice strategies for first approaching trumpet. Would that be more helpful for you, too? I am planning a video about what I do before I even think about practicing Clodomir (or anything else) in a day. It’s how I warm up (including how I approach playing). I’ve had a sense that I need to do a video about that because I am definitely doing more than just Clodomir to work on rebuilding my skills. Thanks again and I look forward to your response. Cheers, Deanna

So true! Thanks for watching and commenting!

Hi Jens, Thanks so much for commenting and sharing your thoughts and your suggestion regarding shorts. I can totally see how you might think I was aiming for the 10 min mark! I actually wasn’t…10:18…LOL…. In truth, it’s just how long I arrived at. I was trying to edit it down further and further but with the time I had for crafting the message and editing the video, I couldn’t see where to trim more and still convey what I wanted to convey. But I definitely get what you’re saying! And also the idea of doing shorts is totally on my list of “To Dos”. When I can make TH-cam more of my main focus, I’m definitely planning to looking into shorts for these video topics and my Clodomir studies, too. Thanks again for commenting! I really appreciate your support. Deanna 🙂

@ Thank YOU again! :)

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Thank you! I really appreciate your letting me know that! Welcome to the channel! ...and, if I wasn't playing trumpet, it would likely be trombone! I did pick one up many years ago when I was conducting the band and trying to help my trombone players. I bought one, too, now that I recall. It's a cool instrument! In the end, tho, I had trouble having the strength to hold it in my left wrist and ended up selling it. Since then, I have been contemplating a soprano trombone which I think would be fun to learn to play. ....good luck with your new endeavours in teaching all the brass instruments! It's intriguing...the differences and the similarities.

😃 Yep! me too!

As I've been doing these videos I've been really trying to assess just what exactly I'm doing so I can explain it. It's an interesting exercise to be sure! For tonguing, my tongue essentially touches behind my front teeth and does also touch at the bottom of the teeth, tho I think I'm feeling the full tooth to the gum...I think. And, then it's out of the way quick! I'm not familiar with the semi-anchor tonguing technique. What is that?

@@TrumpetBuzz It's just what I call taking some aspects of Balanced embouchure, and TCE(trust me do not go down those rabbit holes!)basically it helps me to get a faster air stream. by having the tongue arch almost always in use. seems to me you played just fine prior, so don't even worry about that. too much thinking about what we are doing can really get us into a spiral pretty fast. The only time you might worry about those things would be if you struggled to get high notes or that you endurance was off, but you already played without those issues so you're golden.

Hi, BE is new to me. I just read a quick blurb about it and it sounds interesting. I did look at a the TCE method (just watched a couple videos a few weeks ago). That one, the TCE, is not for me. ....that said.... I do know that the tongue definitely ...at least for me .... plays a role in sound production. Tongue and tone.....I have always really focussed on my tone and producing as big, warm and centred sound as I could, though, I'm not sure how well it comes through in the videos. Partly it's that I'm still getting my skills back. But also, I've been trying different mics to figure out how to sound more like me. I'm really not happy with how I sound in my first Clodomir studies. The later ones are a different mic. But I digress. :-). Re the Tongue: yes, when I was working on my higher range way back when (even first just the upper part of the staff, but then higher), I could tell that as I went up, inevitably something would change and tone production got harder and it didn't sound so good. I kept working at it to figure out what was going on. What I figured out that worked for me was to focus on producing as open, warm and centred a tone as I could on all notes regardless of where they are. And that meant I had to be aware of what was happening mechanically inside my mouth...with my tongue. Sounds complex and definitely possible to get hung up on. But I just found it fun to play with my sound and see what I could do with it to play open and warm and easy. Eventually I arrived at what I do now. I think experimenting is a great idea! And, savouring the sounds we can make on this instrument is the best!! 🎺 🙂

@@TrumpetBuzz th-cam.com/video/bcGOM-6Opy4/w-d-xo.html this is Bahb Civiletti, he is an amazing player and the only known one that does tce and has recorded (classically) to my knowledge. TCE has the advantage of big bright and centered sound in all registers. but it lacks lyrical playing and light attacks and I'm not sure about double and triple tonguing. still Civiletti is a formidable player with almost impossible endurance and range. let me know your thoughts? th-cam.com/video/B-4hrGeV3rk/w-d-xo.html,

Thank you! ...and thanks for watching!

Hi, I'm sorry you're dealling with focal dystonia. It's definitely worse.

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Hi, thanks for watching my video and commenting! I mostly play my Bach Bb these days. It's one I got in around 1990 or so. I also have a Benge and it's what I am playing in the first 3 videos of my channel. I have a few other trumpets, too. ….come to think of it, I should probably do a video sometime about what I play on.... For a mouthpiece, I’m playing a Bach 3c that was made in the 1980s. I have a Bach 7E or 7EW, too (I forget at the moment which). I used to have one of each but lost track of one of them. My teacher recommended it for piccolo trumpet playing. It sort of worked for me but not so well. I may just need more time with it but that'll have to wait. :-) Why do you want to play a shallower mouthpiece? Is it for playing high parts in big band?

The “use the shallowest mp” you can play school seems to make sense, at least to me. That’s what people like Lynn Nicholson and Alan Vizzutti talk about, although of course I’m not playing at that sort of level. The shallower the piece the less chops maintenance, and it certainly works for Lynn. Needless to say I also enjoy people who never had to maintain upper register chops like Chet Baker.

I haven't heard of that, the idea of using the shallowest mp. One reason could be that I've been out of the music world for quite some time. Or, maybe it's jazz/big band idea? And, oh ya, if you're playing above the staff all the time! I can see that. :-) I studied in the classical style but definitely understood the use of shallow mps for higher playing in jazz band. In classical, my experience, and in seeing others, the move was in the other direction and when I graduated from school I was playing a Bach 1C. I moved to it in my 4th year when we could tell that my 3C was not letting me fully open up my sound which I'd been developing and I had developed the strength in my chops to play it. And back then, I played everything on it at that time (though not piccolo trumpet...was using a 7E for that...shallower!). I don't use the 1C now, though. I am back to my 3C. One thing about shallow mps, is that I believe they can affect the tone you get....maybe more so down low than in the higher register? Down low, I think it would't be as big as you can get with a deeper mp. And, I found that the mouthpiece and trumpet (picc in my case) didn't help me a whole lot with the high range until I could play up there already. It helped me with the endurance once I could get up there. Are you playing primarily jazz/big band?

@@TrumpetBuzz Vizzutti played lead for Woody Herman and does some jazz but mostly plays classical. Lynn does Maynard-type screaming mostly. They both have a big sound in all registers. But in the end it’s all mind games-maybe. The brilliant Arturo Sandoval plays everything on his Trumpet Evolution album from Harry James and Miles Davis, to Maurice Andre et al on exactly the same horn/mp. There’s a lot to be said for not playing the I gotta try every horn game. I’m a jazz player. Not great, but playing the trumpet-God’s instrument-is a privilege.

My jazz playing these days is playing 4th trumpet in a local Big Band...and currently the only ensemble I'm in. It's good fit for where I'm at and my classical-leaning sound blends in and just supports the 'higher-ups'. I like it. 🙂

Thanks for commenting and sharing your experience. In my experience, the lips don’t work alone to produce this pitch or that one. Certainly no air and you have no pitch but many other factors play into it as well...at least, I have found this to be true. I’m going to give this more thought and will make a video about my understanding of this important topic. Thanks again for commenting! And, Happy New Year! Deanna

. Air pressure is required to play. Flow does result. And we vary air pressure when controlling dynamics. The lip posture controls the pitch. Higher tones generally require progressively more air pressure, but that is not the "cause" of the pitch selected.

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Thanks! and welcome aboard! It's really great to have you here.

Awesome! Thanks! :-) I see a guitar in your photo. Do you also play trumpet?

@@TrumpetBuzz yes, my first instrument was guitar. My first love is trumpet. :) I made my living doing a lot of different styles of guitar. I went through burnout after years of playing guitar, and got very good at Cello as well. Trumpet is truly the sound I love most. but I am a classical guy, and Not interested in Jazz trumpet. It looks like you play classical. That's awesome! You have great chops. would love to hear more of the things you used to play. keep at it. it will come back fast because you have already learned it once. your body does remember. It is great that you are doing this

Guitar and cello…..such wonderful instruments! But I understand, too. The trumpet sound captivates me as well and classical trumpet is my first love. But with being in the military, we played all kinds of music and that was definitely fun. I have to say I also really like Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass! I grew up listening to their records! But if it wasn’t Herb Alpert, it was Timofei Dokschitzer I was listening to! He was a Russian classical trumpet player! Big sound, awesome technique! These days, I’m in a big band on 4th trumpet. It’s a lot of fun and 4th has just the right amount of challenge for me. Are you playing trumpet somewhere, too? Ps….thanks for your kind words, too.

​@@TrumpetBuzz Holay!! yea love all those you mentioned. So you played brass in the military? pretty cool. Did you like that lifestyle? .We had some Herb Alpert records growing up and I loved his music. Tijuana Taxi, the Lonely bull, Spanish flea, his version of Zorba the Greek was pretty good too. I absolutely love African Beat even though is was before my time(Bert Kaempfert). Also loved Il Silenzio. But I really got into Maurice Andre. haha I'm really outing myself as a music nerd. Nakariakov came out when I was young too, I remember hearing him on the radio playing perpetual motion without a breath. I remember thinking how could anyone do that? I know who Dokschitzer is. I should really get into an orchestra but I am a soloist at heart even though I hate being on stage.

Yes, 25 years in many military bands as I moved around Canada. For the most part, I liked it a lot. I had many really good experiences and a number of rather challenging ones too! :-) (Playing Last Post standing in snow with a numb/frozen face would be among the more challenging ones! ....oh, and my toes hurt SO much when we were done.) But lots of good times, too.... even performing for royalty which was cool. I was a music nerd, too! In high school, I listened to Herb and Timofei over and over and over.... I didn't listen to Bert Kaempfert much. I think we had his records but the music didn't win me over at the time. I liked Maurice Andre, too, but it was Timofei and the music he played that really captivated me. I acquired a copy of one of his albums with short pieces on it and I listened to it over and over. It was "The Incredible Trumpet Virtuosity Of Timofey Dokschutzer". I was thrilled to find it on TH-cam because I lost the recording in too many moves. I have music for the Shostakovich one he played and would love to perform it sometime down the road. A soloist who hates stage? Oh no. :-(. .....but you get to share all this great music with the audience. :-). ...is it the nerves? I can relate. It's possible to have them be less of a problem. I like performing on stage and talking to the audience and whole bit. But have dealt with nerves, too. ..........oh...and Nakariakov....He's amazing!!! He perplexes me, tho .....his breathing... even the regular breathing... wow.....

Hi Martin, Thanks for your question! I am planning a video or 2 on the topic of playing higher notes and they’ll be out in the new year sometime. To answer about mouthpieces and if they can help, I can share some thoughts here. Do they help? Yes and no. Yes, because their design can actually help with getting higher notes and/or being able to sustain the energy to play up high. As I understand it, many big band lead trumpet players will use quite shallow mouthpieces. But there are pros and cons to that. And, that’s a very specialized situation. It isn’t for most player’s situations. Piccolo trumpet players will often use a different mouthpiece for playing piccolo than for playing on a Bb trumpet like I am currently playing in the videos. I have experience with playing the piccolo trumpet and the thing I found is that both the piccolo trumpet and the mouthpiece only really help you play high IF you can already play up there. Would I recommend someone change mouthpieces to play higher? There’s a lot of “it depends”. But my first go-to would be to say “no” followed by the suggesting that they work on their high range with the mouthpiece they currently have if it’s fairly common one like most players begin with. There is technique in playing higher and I’d suggest learning it first. After that, a player could contemplate whether another mouthpiece makes sense for them. There are still so many “it depends” even in that but without knowing how a player is playing, that would be my recommendation. I hope this helps. Talking to other experienced players can also be helpful. Maybe there are different experiences out there that may shed different light on this topic. Cheers, Deanna

Thanks for watching and for letting me know!

Hi Jody, Thanks so much for your comment and supportive words about my playing! I really appreciate it! Between this channel and also playing in an ensemble, I've lots to keep me on my toes, so to speak! It's been helpful for sure. How is it going for you? PS I’ve also been trying different microphones over the last few videos because I really wasn’t happy with how I was sounding in those first videos. In fact, I almost did a video about this topic because I was so frustrated with the tone quality. But I just kept trying new things. ……So, it’s possible some of my improvement in tone is my microphone! I still really appreciate your mention of it because either way, it’s sounding better which is what I wanted. 🙂

Hi, thanks so much commenting here and for your kind words! I'm really glad you found the video helpful. Also, thank you for your interest in the PDF. I'm still working on it. I got waylaid by having to do website 'stuff' (migrate to a new host!) that took a bunch of time! I'll get back to it asap now that I'll have a better place to put it! Merry Christmas to you, too!

All the best with your journey back to your musical friend! And, as you know, same with me! ....We can do this! 🙂

Hi there! It's great to hear you're playing again! And, I'm glad my videos might be helpful! Thanks for commenting. I really appreciate it. Cheers, Deanna

Hi, thank you so much! I really appreciate that! Thanks for checking it out, too!!

Thanks for watching and commenting! I hope it helps you like it helps me. Cheers! Deanna

Yeah... It helps me feel the momentum. That's a great way to describe it! Thanks for commenting! :-)

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I've not heard of Mitchells so I'm not sure about it. I'll have to check it out. Do you like it?

@ yes i like it! th-cam.com/video/fGRFTlyVw-Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IvmZisV2rSYEW4ZF

Sorry to be slow to reply! I just found your reply with the link. I will definitely check it out! Cheers and thanks! Deanna

@@TrumpetBuzz Ah, dont be sorry! 🙂 By the way, my trumpet playing is progressing. I have went from not touching the trumpet for 30 years, in end of september, to a decent (but really not great) player now. I try to practice 30 minutes each day.

@@lerniacarlberg That's awesome! I'm happy you're seeing progress since picking it up again! I'm a couple years back to playing more regularly myself but have been up and down in how much playing I'll get done in a day. I've gone through short periods where it's still just 5-10" and I pay for it when that happens. But I'm working myself back up to 20-40". My target is min 20"/day.

Hi Carl, I'm so happy to have you join us here! Thanks for commenting about where you're at. I almost bought a Conn back in my teens but ended up getting a Getzen and used that for a few years. I did find a very old Conn from the late 1920's that's fun, though smaller than they became. I got it in an antique store and it's in good shape. Good luck on your trumpeting journey! I'm just working on the next video for Clodomir #6 and working on playing my intervals better. cheers! 🙂. ...oh, and thanks for sharing where you're from! I'm in Canada.

@ my dad has a getzen 😀👍 Looking forward to your next video, cant wait🤩👍

Hey...cool about your Dad! I liked my Getzen when I was playing it. What one does your Dad have? I had an Eterna. .......ok...I'd better get back to it! #6 awaits! :-). Cheers!

@ I can ask. But I think it is some kind of student model from late 80:s

That's what mine was. I used it for a couple of years before moving to a Benge and then a Bach. Both I still have and are professional trumpets.

Thanks for watching my video and commenting. Rustiques is a neat and weird piece! I've called it acobatics for trumpet! :-)

Hi Charlie, Thanks for asking about that. I will definitely put my head to that. I already have a video idea in the works that's about building our foundational skills as players which is a huge part of the work for newer players, imo. But it never ends because then we want to maintain it. I am always working these skills. Until that video is ready, I wonder if you might already have some crossover from being a string player in that you have practice habits already in place. So, things like posture and being relaxed and being focused. Can you lean on your existing approach and apply some of it to trumpet, even as the actual playing skills are different? For trumpet playing specifically, add in having easy, full breathing and supporting your tone while you’re playing. I count 'how' we approach our playing AS one of the foundational skills for good playing. I hope this is a little helpful in the short term. Cheers and thanks so much for commenting with your question!

@@TrumpetBuzz Thank you for your response. I have a few brass friends who have given me tips here and there. It seems that every brass person I talk to (even amongst trumpet players) everyone has a different answer. I look forward to your future uploads!

Yes, lots of "right" ways to play. ...though, I think how they sound is a determinant for whether their approach really works. I wonder if people become somewhat partial to whatever way they were introduced to playing. I know I am but I am starting to explore other methods, too, now that I'm back to playing more regularly.

Thanks for commenting and sharing about the myelin! I've heard of it but not looked into it much. I will now. It's so interesting how our bodies work! And... you are right: slow to go fast! 🙂

Hi, Congrats on moving up to 2nd trumpet! It sounds like it's an inspiring band to play in. It's so great to have a place and people to play with. I'm glad also that the looping idea is helpful and I really appreciate your letting me know. I'm working on the PDF today and will have it out sometime this week. Then... on to the next video! :-) Thanks so much for commenting and sharing a little about yourself. PS...way to go at 78! And why not?! I'm aiming for that myself! 🙂

Wonderful! I'm glad you're here! And, thanks for commenting and subscribing. Happy playing!

So very true!

Hey Klaus! How ya doing?! I remember us getting together and working on things. Good times and you were very dedicated! And, it paid off, too. For me...it is good to be back playing again. It was time. Thanks for checking out my video and commenting!

Yeah! Me too! ...thanks for commenting! :-)

Thanks for checking out my video and commenting! When I was learning multiple tonguing, it took quite a bit for me to get the coordination. I struggled with it! Letting your body (or your tongue) figure it out, though......this idea should work that doing, too. Good luck with getting it! I'm sure you will. :-)

Hi Jens, Thanks for sharing! I think I have a Conn 22b! Though, I don't see it marked on the instrument so I'm not sure. It looks the same as some pictures I found of them. It's not one I play regularly but I found it at an antique store for not much money and the slides and valves worked well so I bought it. It mostly plays ok but it definitely has a smaller sound than my Bach which is my usual trumpet. What kind of trumpet are you playing on now? I think student models can be very good. And, given you have a musical background already, Chet and Clifford could still have company! :-)

@@TrumpetBuzz Thank you for your kind words! The trumpet I ordered is the best selling entry level one by Thomann (Thomann TR 200). Until it arrives I try a little lip buzzing and mouthpiece buzzing. It's fun! Charlie Porter has some great videos for (anew) beginners. Looking forward to your next video, see you there :)

I haven't heard of those trumpets but will check 'em out! See you soon....in the next video! :-)

Hi Craig, it’s a great question and timely! I’m just finishing up the Clodomir #5 video and in the next one after that, I’m actually going to be talking about tonguing in general and staccatos specifically. That video is already about half done and shouldn’t be too long coming out after #5. So… if you don’t mind waiting, I’ll be able to answer your question better by showing and talking about it in video format. Cheers! Deanna

Jazz classics sound great! And, yeah, a somewhat different approach though with crossover for some of the technique of playing (even if not in the musical style of the music). I'm playing in a big band on 4th trumpet. It's a good fit as I am more of a classical player though my swing and such has definitely improved over the years! Thanks for sharing what you're doing.

That's neat! What genre of fiction do you write? Cheers!

@@TrumpetBuzz Short stories. Westerns with supernatural/Biblical overtones. But one story has a bit of a Stephen King feel to it. LOL. Oh, well ... time for me to practice the horn!

They sound intriguing! ...oh, but Mr. King... not for me. But writing and playing trumpet are, I bet, great for variety for your creativity.

Hi Frank, thanks for watching and commenting! Congrats to you for having time to play more and challenging yourself in the band. That's wonderful! For developing (or re-developing in my case), my go-tos are Cickowizc and Clarke Technical Studies at this time for developing air and tone, dexterity, etc. (I'll be talking about these in an upcoming video). Plus the studies in the Arban's book are also good to work on. The Getchell books are good, too, though, if you don't have those, Arban's studies are fine. Also, the Clodomir book I'm presenting here on TH-cam about. I wish you all the best with this fun musical journey! Cheers, Deanna

The fingering challenge is definitely part of it and taking it up the octave is a great idea. I'll take things up or down depending on what it is. Also going back & forth between A and G by themselves, tonguing and slurring to strengthen the 3rd finger. And then add back in the F#. I think for me the biggest challenge is still playing the low F# with a nice tone and tonguing it at the speed that piece goes at. My F# still doesn't sound great! ...... Thanks for watching the video and sharing your thoughts here. And you definitely have company with dealing with these challenging things! That's something I'm seeing in the comments of my videos and I think is great! We're not the only one. :-)

Hi, I'm glad you're here and thanks for commenting, too. Cool that you're ordering Clodomir! I'm not in Wisconsin, but I'm sort of close by. I live in Ontario, Canada. And, even though we're not close by to each other, I was thinking that there could be the possibility of "meeting" online. If you want to explore that, my email is deanna@deannaford.ca. If not, all good, too. And, all the best as you work with you new brass "friend". 🎺 :-)

Hi, thanks for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it! What instrument do you play?

@@TrumpetBuzz I play the tenor sax. I have a solo for my jazz band, performing in december, and your advice helps me a lot.

Hi, congrats on having the upcoming solo! I hope you have a ton of fun with it! And...You're ahead of me with these kinds of solos! I haven't done much in the way of jazz solos, though it's something I'm interested to learn in the future. Thanks for watching my video and commenting here. I wish you all the best! :-)

You as well. 👍

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Thank you so much! I really appreciate your comment.

Hi! Thanks for watching and for your comment! :-)

Hi there! I’m so glad you’re here, too. It sounds like you have a good approach to getting your playing going again. I’m a big fan of the Clark Studies. I regularly play no. 2 and no 3. ...and yah, it’s kinda’ weird coming back after a break. Lol... Re the higher register and your air, to me it sounds like what I think you found, that there was too much air going through for the lips to handle. And, it sounds like your body and brain are working it out with the diaphragm support, which is cool. When I work on my range, I gently and slowly move up scales while aiming to keep my sound the best I can and as little tension in the body as possible. If I hear or feel things changing uncomfortably, that’s where I stop and I work on the sound and the feel of it....going down a bit or a lot and coming back up, etc. Aiming for easy and supported. I find that the air pressure I use varies depending on what I’m doing. I’m most aware of it changing when I change dynamics and I think of it more as just aiming for whatever volume I want and then blowing more or less air through and the speed of the air varies accordingly. Louder uses much more than very soft. Both, however, need the other thing I focus on which is support of the air, like you mentioned already. And, I am always focussed on the tone and aim for an open sound that is centred and feels supported regardless of volume or pitch. As to pressure on your lips and teeth, use only what’s necessary and no more. Aim for less, and support it all with the air to the point where it’s producing a nice tone. Play around with it. Tone is the guide, in my books. And to a great extent, let your body figure things out guided by the tone. Take breaks. Take your time. And you’ll go faster. :-)

Thanks Brian! I appreciate that. Thanks for commenting here, too.

Thanks! It took a bit to get them all there but eventually got it! Thanks for commenting! :-)