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My pleasure! Yes you can definitely use the cross hand against traditional WC punches (or did you mean street punches?), however you will usually need to be slightly closer to your opponent (win the 4th centreline) and intercept the punch earlier in its trajectory. We want to maintain our 2nd centreline (elbows being low), and so ideally we don't want to break that structure by lifting too much in order to intercept a higher punch. If the contact point of our interception is higher, then a defensive move that comes from underneath would be better, so that our elbows still remain lower and thus closer to our stance e.g. BZ Fat Sau. Hope that helps! -Sifu

Good question, Bill - because if he then uses his punching hand to Laap both my hands, he will trap two of my hands with one of his. However if my right hand is underneath and he tries to Laap both, I can come under his arm with my right hand e.g. with Hyun into Punch. Hope that helps! -Sifu

For Fuk, forearm goes straight forwards rather than diagonal. Also, fingers are horizontal instead of pointing downwards.

@@jmwingchun5477 Very interesting practices in your lineage. It reminds me a bit of some Hakka styles such as Southern Mantis, especially the diagonal hands in your sil lim tao. It's interesting...Wing Chun looks like Wing Chun no matter how different the lineage.

@@jmwingchun5477 Generally the fingers guide fuk in other HK lineages, but very interesting. I've seen some do a fuk similar to a crane pecking hand as well. Thank you for the demonstrations.

@@bigwavesun Thanks! Yes my Sifu studied Southern Mantis for a bit with Yip Shui, and I've studied for a short time with one of his sons, so that's very perceptive of you. The main crossovers I can see are in the application of the forms, and also the hard Hei Gung (Qi Gong) that Wan Sifu uses. My Sifu still prefers to be soft however when generating power ('Fong Sung'), and also likes that Wing Chun has kicks. Tong Long Kyun is still a great Southern style though.

@@jmwingchun5477 Wow! Spot on huh lol. That is amazing. I just did some research on your teacher. Very interesting blend. It makes sense to blend the styles actually. The DNA is very similar. Good kung fu is good kung fu. Thank you for sharing insights into your system. I have a blended background in Jiu Wan/Moy Yat flavors and I enjoy studying how the extended wing chun families disceminate and practice.

Yes exactly right - weirdly I was talking about that at class yesterday. Sometimes if someone is coming at you with chain punches, you can just throw out the Cross Hands, and because you'll connect either inside or outside their punches, it doesn't matter, since when you open your arms again you'll still have an advantage. Yes there are lots of ways to counter the Cross Hands. If they're chain punching though, it's unlikely they'll be able to quickly change to jut sau, as quickly as you will. If they do jut, one potential counter to that counter, is to just punch over the top. If it's a 'jut da', you could go to connect with their punching hand:)

No problem - that's good to hear. If need any help with anything feel free to drop me an email.

Yes no problem. It mainly works as in PWC we punch with the elbow down. If in WSL you are punching with the elbow up (straight arm) then a horizontal or downwards forearm for bong would work better 🙏

If you ever fight a competent grappler you will see the advantage of this approach. It is harder to trap has more power when done correctly.

Thanks Jonathan. We have other defensive moves that we can use instead e.g. Jum Sao or Hup. If possible you want to end up with your forearm on top of theirs and low, as you then have much more pressure on their balance. This is different to ending up with your forearm underneath theirs as with many traditional styles of Bong Sao.

I was taught that for vectors of movements that arcs in from a higher angle that you move in hit them before they can complete the attack, if I understand what you are asking.