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About Joe;
B.S., KINESIOLOGY, JMU
WSBBSS
WSBBPTAT
2/1 ABCT, Fort Bliss, US ARMY ~ 2021
-Aided in programming and implementation of Selection and SoF training
-Ran PT for 1st Armored Division heads of staff
19th Engineer Battalion, Fort Knox, US ARMY ~ 2020-2021
-Base lead strength and conditioning coach for sole active element on installation
Westside Barbell, Columbus, Ohio ~ 2012-2022
-Kept statistics on work volume, and assisted in the coaching of professional and tactical athletes
-Trained Team CrossFit Grandview for the Games, which they placed 8th in the world in 2015
CrossFit Seminar Staff ~ 2013-2015
-Delivered the Powerlifting seminar for CrossFit HQ
B.S., KINESIOLOGY, JMU
WSBBSS
WSBBPTAT
2/1 ABCT, Fort Bliss, US ARMY ~ 2021
-Aided in programming and implementation of Selection and SoF training
-Ran PT for 1st Armored Division heads of staff
19th Engineer Battalion, Fort Knox, US ARMY ~ 2020-2021
-Base lead strength and conditioning coach for sole active element on installation
Westside Barbell, Columbus, Ohio ~ 2012-2022
-Kept statistics on work volume, and assisted in the coaching of professional and tactical athletes
-Trained Team CrossFit Grandview for the Games, which they placed 8th in the world in 2015
CrossFit Seminar Staff ~ 2013-2015
-Delivered the Powerlifting seminar for CrossFit HQ
#39 - Andrea Nisler | 2x CrossFit Mayhem Team Champion
Andrea Nisler, an 8x CrossFit Games Team competitor (once Individual), gym owner of Timberwolf Fitness, and mother to be, sits down to talk shop! A near decade at the top of her sport, Andrea has served as a Games team member for her home base of Timberwolf in 2014, 2016, and 2017. From there, OC3 created a team which yet again summited the sport to see Game competition in 2018 & 2019. Soon after, the world shut down and during such a time, Nisler made it to the Games as an individual. Coming out of this global lockdown, a call came in which was too good to pass up, the opportunity to train with the GOAT Rich Froning as a Mayhem CrossFit Team member. This of course netted not only 2 Games appearances, but 2 gold medals as well. Upon Rich's retirement, PRVN asked for her services, and with the chance to train around yet anther GOAT in Tia-Clair Toomey and another Games trip here of late in 2023. Needless to say, Andrea as seen not only the pinnacle, but those who have made the sport as popular as it is.
Outside of this rollercoaster decade, she breaks down:
Why 'more is not better', as many CrossFitters believe that high volume is the answer to achieving both strength and metcon goals.
The CrossFit Mayhem training schedule.
How certain movements in CrossFit are not the greatest for the body.
Question & Answer from audience submissions!
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0:00 - How Pregnancy Dictates Training
20:51 - Low Volume - High Intensity is the Cure!
23:19 - Strength Development for CrossFit
27:05 - Change 1 Aspect of the CrossFit Games...
38:23 - Largest Differential between Teams
43:09 - CrossFit Mayhem Training
52:29 - ACL Cautionary Tale
57:30 - Audience Q&A
1:01:11 - Differences between Mayhem & PRVN
1:02:09 - Best Method(s) for Managing Stress/Recovery
1:06:12 - Nutrition for Performance
1:09:37 - Mastering the Pain Cave
1:11:21 - Biggest Sacrifice Made
1:12:56 - Rich Froning Stories
#RealmsOfStrengthPodcast #strengthandconditioning #crossfit
Outside of this rollercoaster decade, she breaks down:
Why 'more is not better', as many CrossFitters believe that high volume is the answer to achieving both strength and metcon goals.
The CrossFit Mayhem training schedule.
How certain movements in CrossFit are not the greatest for the body.
Question & Answer from audience submissions!
Subscribe here for more shop talk like this!
th-cam.com/users/specialstrengths
Stay Social
Andrea Nisler: aenisler
Timberwolf Fitness: timberwolf_fitness
Joe Lasko: specialstrengths
Joe Cooperman: activehealth_scottsdale
0:00 - How Pregnancy Dictates Training
20:51 - Low Volume - High Intensity is the Cure!
23:19 - Strength Development for CrossFit
27:05 - Change 1 Aspect of the CrossFit Games...
38:23 - Largest Differential between Teams
43:09 - CrossFit Mayhem Training
52:29 - ACL Cautionary Tale
57:30 - Audience Q&A
1:01:11 - Differences between Mayhem & PRVN
1:02:09 - Best Method(s) for Managing Stress/Recovery
1:06:12 - Nutrition for Performance
1:09:37 - Mastering the Pain Cave
1:11:21 - Biggest Sacrifice Made
1:12:56 - Rich Froning Stories
#RealmsOfStrengthPodcast #strengthandconditioning #crossfit
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Probably one of the best S&C coaches in US. Would love for you guys to get Jerry Schmidt (who is currently at Oklahoma).
I'll look into it!
What a great talk. While this is designed for athletes we need to change the way amateurs like me think about working out. We should be training like athletes perhaps with not the same amount of intensity as it would lead to functionality. Unfortunately, there's not enough resources available unless you're paying for trainers (not your avg planet fitness trainer) so that's likely going to cost an arm and a leg.
Chris and I use to train together, helped me win The Mr. Maine, Maine Muscle Classic. Believed in me when no one did.
Hell yeah!
Author Jones once said that the negative portion of the movement is the most important part and that is why I like to take 4 seconds to lower the weight. Doran Yates also did it this way 2-2-4. Other things you can do is do not lockout on each rep but stop short of full extension and do not lower the weight all the way to the bottom and stopping. You want to keep the stress on the muscle during all the reps. Do not use momentum to help move the weight. When ever you inject an outside force you are robbing the muscle of possible gains by helping to move the weight. You want to make the set as intense as possible but also as safe as possible.
There ya go!
You can add even more intensity to each set by slowing the tempo down to a 2-2-4 or a 3-2-3 or even a 5-5. I like the first which is 2-2-4 ( two seconds on the positive, two seconds for a static hold and 4 seconds on the negative. You can't use very much weight but with this method but you will really see a big improvement if you give yourself enough rest. I only do workouts like this once every 7 to10 days but I am 66 years old and I don't have the recovery like I used to. You have to experiment and keep records of your workouts to see what works.
Classic approach!
MIke Mentzer had David Paul do both of these exercises in a super set fashion. I am not sure if he use this particular machine or not but he had him do both of these exercises one after the other. The results were amazing even though he was probably on steroids at the time. If you do both of these like in this video I can guarantee you squat will increase. David Paul increased his squat by 186 pounds. Not bad for not doing any squats for a month!
Im a CANE for life! Im feeling really good about this year! We have had problems with the conditing for a long time and now it feels different and better.
If you were to implement this into an affiliate model program, how would you do it? We’re talking gen pop. 1 max effort 1 dynamic effort a week?
Lateral sled pulls for concentric groin development?
Yes
Curious, what are the dimensions of this piece? Looks roughly 10’L 2’W and 7’H?
Epic ‘stache!! I had never heard of this guy.
Jones would've approved and THAT is saying a helluva lot.
You're too kind
You don't row a canoe, you paddle a canoe with a paddle, not an oar. An oar is fixed to the boat. A paddle is just free in your hands. FYI. But great information. Thanks.
LOL, there ya go!
Hi Joe, first thank you for sharing your knowledge. How many weeks do we keep this routine for?
What does Ryan Davis's shirt on Rogue fitness stand for? The logo says 1 percent.
That'd be a question for him...he's very responsive on his IG!
I'm baffled that this channel isn't bigger than it is. Great video, I'm very thankful. I hope your work reaches more people!
I greatly appreciate it!
Yea aceto doesn’t use lot of diuretic he’s smart
Aceto is the man
I wonder if she was pregnant at the games this year?… great interview, she is an amazing athlete..
Can you guys get Chuck Losey on an episode?
Definitely can reach out his way! I'll have to wait until football season is winding down first...
@@specialstrengths that's true! Thank you!
Can you guys get the man the myth the legend CHUCK LOSEY on this?
Great vid - thanks bro! I am looking at the Fettle Fitness Pullover. I know it won't be as good as the Nautilus Gen 1, but just trying to get an approximation. What is the distance between the elbow pads on this Nautilus Gen 1? Want to make sure I do not go with a pullover that is too wide.
I appreciate it! From the inside pad edge to opposing inside pad edge is ~18". From the connecting bolts (attaching the pads to the frame) is ~25"
@@specialstrengths Awesome - thank you so much for the info! Much appreciated
Gold. Thank you for this, pages of notes. Excited to apply to myself & athletes
Absolutely! It was absolute basics, didn’t even get to dive into GPP v SPP. Any in-depth questions please feel free to DM me @specialstrengths
where would you fit the traditional crossfit wods into this? I'm currently programmed on a westside conjugate and crossfit model and ever since going onto it I have lost strength, fitness and got slightly fatter plus feeling totally fried out most of the time from it, so I believe it is over programmed and overtrained so I'm losing faith in the methodology but i'm unsure its implemented correctly
Most likely it sounds like you're doing too much, be it strength or conditioning. Too much leads to 4 symptoms you're experiencing, and neural drain is quite common in overzealous powerlifting programs. A good rule of thumb is the hotter you burn, the longer it takes to cool back down. / Start by taking time off, then assess several aspects of your training and lifestyle: 1) Compare the weekly training volume before beginning your current regimen and where it was when you began this current system...if the spike is significant (greater than 5%), back it down to 10-20% LOWER than what it was before your Westside Conjugate template. 2) Sleep 3) Quality Calories 4) Stress // When i work with CrossFit athletes, we rarely if ever touch 1RMs, as since 2007, there have only been 17 maxes (including ladders) at the Games...out of 183 total. This makes a 1RM opportunity of just over 10%...so theoretically, if you're performing 1RMs more than 1 out of every 10 heavy (strength) sessions, you're not playing the appropriate odds in your favor. Far more events are geared toward top sets of 3+ or heavy repetitive effort. /// Initially I would encourage you to lay low on conditioning the first 3 weeks back. After which, inject for 3 weeks a NON-LOAD bearing monostructural conditioning piece (assault bike, ski-erg, rower, concept 2 bike, etc...NOT running) immediately post training for 20-30min at ~60-70% intensity...just enough to sweat while still being able to pass the sentence test. //// *not knowing your background, training history, and training regimen makes it rather difficult to diagnose
I would pay money for this to be re recorded without the echoey gym. Might be worth getting a lapel bluetooth microphone to improve the quality. Amazing content just hard to hear.
I appreciate it!
These are fantastic! Thanks for sharing. Now I'm going to eat some pringles! 🤣
There ya go!
This is a good channel. Subscribed. Really enjoying the content. 🔥
I appreciate the kind words! More to come🇺🇸
Really excellent your discussion
I appreciate it! I try to cover as many avenues as possible.
Think you could do a video talking about conjugate for Olympic lifters? I’m currently trying to figure out how to master the conjugate method to improve my lifts. Current set up: Monday Max Effort Lower: Snatch variation w/ a squat or pull variation. Wednesday Max Effort Upper: Clean variation w/ press or jerk variation. Friday Dynamic Effort Lower: Squat and Snatch (both with 25% band tension) Sunday Dynamic Effort Upper: Clean and Jerk (both with 25% band tension) With that set up. Do you think I could get away with just doing a typical westside set up? Ie For max Effort days only doing a squat/pull Monday, the a press variation on Wednesday. Then only doing the the snatch and clean and jerk on dynamic days? (If that makes sense) Basically raise absolute strength on the squat, deadlift & presses and just rely on dynamic days to improve snatch a clean and jerk. Thanks 😊
I have Olympic variation training as a main video topic coming down the pipe as I get questioned specifically on that often. As usual when I put it up, I’ll include the weekly template. To your question the short and simple is if you’re recovering day by day, week by week, it’ll work. I would definitely keep Monday to a heavy Olympic pull (usually snatch as it recruits far more upper back strength) or back squat. Wednesday keep it to a jerk variation, and before performing it, ‘warm-up’ with 70-80% full clean/snatch singles. Keep Friday to front squats and banded Olympic style pulls (the clean) and Saturday to banded push press.
@@specialstrengths so would you recommend that an Olympic lifter box squat? If so, what’s the box height, stance width etc
@@28raffa10 For heavy/maximal work 3 reps and under yes. Besides being below parallel it's difficult to prescribe box height in this scenario. I've found 1 foot width wider each foot is the sweet spot for additional adductor/hip/glute recruitment without distorting position.
@@specialstrengths Appreciate it the answers! When will you do a video that’s based on how westside trained Olympic lifters ? Would be interesting to get your perspective of it.
@@28raffa10 I don't have a set date as of yet, but it's definitely on the board
Fantastic information
I greatly appreciate it!
“Strength is king”. Great quote!
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More people need fuckin to listen to this.
Very informative. Looking forward to more.
I appreciate it!
Dude is great! Please keep these coming. In regards to the fast lifters v. strong lifters, is there a sure way to find out which one you are? I'm sure we all have a combination of both but I think its a topic that deserves more attention.
While you can certainly use a Tendo unit/Perch Mount to dictate m/s, at the end of the day, the coaching eye is king... The big rule of thumb I go by is this; Stronger than Fast: On max effort days, the lifter can grind lifts out with the best of them. Then on the back end of the week for dynamic lifts (keeping in mind the classic WSBB %'s) the bar moves closer to an 80-90% max effort speed, and no 'pop' exists. Faster than Strong: On max effort days, the lifter cannot yet grind, OR when out of optimal position, the grind ceases. On dynamic days (keeping in mind the classic WSBB %'s) execution is seemingly effortless.
@@specialstrengths I'm going to use these guidelines to see where I am. Thanks so much! Appreciate the content 💪
Another awesome video! You do a great job of explaining the westside/conjugate method for training outside of powerlifting. What are your thoughts on upper body conditioning using the sled, like high rep extensions, rear delt flys, etc? Also, you talked about seeing a chiropractor for hip/glute issue. I have a herniated disk L5-S1, any suggestions on how to find a good chiro? As always thanks for the great info!
Upper body conditioning you can't go wrong with ANY battle rope variations, either for HIIT or sustainability. I'm a big fan of :15 ON/:30 OFF (1:2 ratio) up to 15 minutes total for HIIT, or 1:00 On/1:00 Off (1:1 ratio) up to 30 minutes total for sustainability. I've also gleaned big turnover from the use of battle chain...essentially a pair of towing chains. You can get these easily at your friendly neighborhood ACE Hardware, Lowes, or Home Depot for relative low cost. Chiro-wise, that's a tricky situation as few have in-depth knowledge (and moreover personal experience over prolonged time) of intense and/or committed training.
Great video! So much good info!
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What sort of training volumes are you seeing outside of the special strengths work? Like how many hours a week could be used optimally to train the sporting movements for CrossFit?
With this strength system in mind, it’s highly individualized. However, not thinking of it as an ‘hourly’ concept, here are some key points I’ve seen work alongside the WSBB Conjugate System with great success: -As the lead-in/primer/activation before the training days, olympic variations at 30-50% straight weight for technique -Directly post training 10-15min of gymnastic technique work -Post gymnastic technique a SHORT (no more than 20min) mono-structural conditioning piece (constant sled pull, rower, ski erg, etc…all dictated off nasal breathing to keep the cardiovascular system in 3rd gear driven off sustainability, not maximal-ability). / -On non-strength day(s) (always ensuring a day of rest is worked in for recovery) is the multiple metcon day(s) in which within the athlete has movements programmed in which are sticking points/areas outside their wheelhouse // *as the initial ‘off-season’ of 3 months post competition comes to a close, more emphasis shifts towards strength endurance of the necessary barbell movements (EMOM style metcons)
@@specialstrengths very grateful for the response, massive fan of your stuff and this series right now is exactly what i wanted to know more of your perspective on (mainly using WSBB conjugate for CrossFit).
Big fan of your ROS podcasts. Just now getting around to watching this but super excited for this series. Keep up the great work!
I appreciate it, much more down the line!
Top quality video!
I appreciate it!
Joe, would love to see you give a video tour of your gym 🏆🏆🔥🔥
It’s in the works🇺🇸
Yeah, i agree. Would love to see that.
Zach and Joe, I would love to see a podcast with you guys! 😉
Thank you so much for this.. I've been testing certain things out when it comes to accessories and you just made the breakdown a lot simpler.
Glad I could help! Stay Strong🇺🇸
Could we see one for combat athletes also?
Absolutely, I'll be doing one for operators soon!
Whhats meaning build 1x6-10 DB bench ? Work up to a rm set of 6-10 reps (whichever rep you chose)
It works in two primary methods: / 1) As a pure auto-regulation, in that depending how the athlete(s) feels that day, they can push the weight to closer towards the heavier range or lighter toward the lighter range. // 2) Building up through the weeks via progressive overload (reps to lb/kg). WK1: establish lb/kg which is closer to the 6-7 rep range WK2: use the wk1 lb/kg and add reps to each set WK3: if the top end rep range (in this case 10) has been achieved on wk2, add a SMALL amount of lb/kg to level back down to the 6-7 range and begin the progressive climb. /// *'warm-up' sets leading into the these work set(s) are minimal ((however FULLY dependent on the athlete(s) needs)), as we don't want to drain the individual's energy
Do you apply this to tactical athletes as well?
One the whole you can. However there are substantial differences in energy system requirements (for longer distance endurance/sustainability, prehab, and long static overcome by immediate dynamic). I’ll be doing a summary of operator training in this system as well🇺🇸
Does this basically work as an elbow wall slide exercise for thoracic extension etc? Probably. For that I think is why this particular machine feels ages different than all the rest, because the elbows aren’t leaning sideways but straight out, if u get what I mean. I mean, if this machine is done properly as wall slides are supposed to be done, it must be a hell of a difficult one. Because you’re basically pushing the chest out, neck back, waist tucked and stable/braced, and it’s like you slide elbows to an imaginary wall. Brilliant machine.
Great piece for sure!
Awesome video! Nothing beats learning more perspectives on conjugate training from someone who trained at Westside.
More to come!
Jo, you are an absolute legend for doing this. Can’t wait for the next one.
I truly appreciate it! The next will be centered around athlete development within the system
So are we not going to talk about that EPIC mustache ...just awesome.
You’re too kind! Lol
Brother, if you want people to watch your videos and for you channel to grow, you need to get a mic. The audio is ass, just constructive criticism
I appreciate the insight!