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you suck. boom! roasted

Nice aim against the druid in encounter 5, bum. Blame the game some more to cope with being trash. My grandma could do better and she isn't even alive

3:23 omg you got so lucky bro lol literally 1 HP 😂😂

Subscribed! Good thoughts man.

Definitely agree. Only recently started playing the game. Got to level 60 Druid before multiclassing came out. Barely had a grasp of the game as it was, & just as I began to understand the nuances of fighting against the different classes, the novice ability to strategize & anticipate actions from other players went out the window.

Fighters with blood exchange, sprint, and daggers, enough said. Not fun.

you are completely right. if multiclassing gets brought to the main game i will be quitting

What if i want to be a warlock that identifies as a druid? You bigot

I like it.

saved fulglor aegis and kuma for end of wipe lost fulglor with triple dreamwalk wizards and phantomise lost kuma and aegis to triple warlocks with chain treant. 10/10 end of the wipe will never save stuff again

Multiclassing seems like an interesting concept. It would be fun to be able mix some things from a different class and see what you can create. The problem occurs when ppl min-max it, and DaD having PvP makes it so things can be unfun when said min-maxing occurs. Although that already occurs with the base classes, so im not really against it happening as well with multiclassing. I would agree that the current state of multiclassing is rough. But i dont agree that not providing a solution to be an appropriate response. Personnally would suggest that only a combination of 2 skills and/or perks equipped from anything other than the base class to be a limit. Hell maybe they tweak the base classes labelling so each class falls into caster, half caster or martial, and would need need a perk to enable the usage of skills/perks from the other category, effectively limiting what you could choose as options. A system like that, or even more complex one, could work to reduce min-maxing with multiclassing. At the very least, im curious to see multiclassing return in a new form. This run of it does likely have more ppl seeing multiclassing for the first time since the game has gone F2P. So hopefully some constructive criticsm for ppl with less overall experience with the game can provide some more insight compared to vets that already have an idea of what the game should be. With the additions of the skins, DaD seems to be more and more like DnD, so i am excited for what could possibly become their version of multiclassing.

id say its fine if they add it everytime like a week before wipe or when the ranks get set & locked in

I really like the multi class feature

YES! , multiclassing just fully unbalances everything. Just makes everything a shit shows a fighter throwing fireball ???!??! like what??

Yes, I want you to dig in to the fact that all rogues are scum

I kind of disagree that multiclassing changes the game to a "more optimization focus". Currently if you want to do well in solos, you have to cap your MS. So the game is already far beyond the point where you must focus on optimization. And as you said, what multiclassing does do that can be detrimental (if implemented as a core feature) is remove the ability to discern what you're fighting. Usually if you see a guy wearing plate with a mace, then you know it's probably a Cleric. But with multiclassing you wouldn't know if it's a Cleric that can also cast fireball.

its actually fucking cheeks multiclassing in this game BUT, I tried poison tipped arrows on my ranger it got me thinking itd be a great fucking subclass

Fantastic breakdown of what makes this game unique, and how the multiclass system dilutes what we all love.

We already had this conversation last time they experimented with multi classing and as fun as it can be at times it just totally destroys any and all class identities and roles

the magic missle in dreamwalk form is lovely

Nah I like this, needs some tweaking but i love how much it opens the game up

You brought up 2 good reasons for why they brought it back. Mine was I hoped they just wanted to give free players a chance to play around with more class stuff without having to lose their progress or get a quick look at what perks/skills people thought were broken

when 7 days left, give us 3 days of multiclassing and 4 days without it. Multiclassing brings fresh air which is welcomed for a couple days imo.

its fun get over it

I’m digging the “event” for final week of wipe. Keeps it fresh even though it might not be fun. I have a lot of hours

Multiclassing is nonsense for dark and darker. However i feel they should definitely look into subclasses instead of multiclassing.

I think something like the tri class system could work like rogue fighter barb, lock, wizard cleric, etc where you can only get one thing from that group. Thay way its still the melee vs ranged flavor

The game would absolutely benefit from more subclass speciation. But this ain't the way

While I get the concept and philosophy of multiclassing, the problem with it is almost immediately the diversity and uniqueness it provides is immediately thrown out the window when the "best" overall metas are formed (landmine barb, dreamwalk flame walker warlock, uberbuff druid, etc). While to an extent this happens with the base game, it'll always be harder to be an all round better class/build than everyone else due to soft countering that distinct class differences brings naturally. Obviously skill is a huge factor too but with multiclassing it's literally ONLY down to skill and reaction, game knowledge and game sense take a super hard backseat unlike non-multiclassing where game knowledge and sense are almost MORE important than mechanical skill. I just don't think DND should ever be multiclass in the main game. I'm ok with it being a post-season week long "LTM" style thing but I wish they'd stop trying to pretend it's good for the game. It damn near killed the game last time it was implemented in base.

yeah. multiclass is weird as hell but I will say the 192% actionspeed tumble build is absolutely hilarious.

I hate to disagree, I think this is such an AMAZING addition to the game. Maybe because I am new but this just feels like such a sick way of making more unique builds

A possible remedy is having penalties to multiclassing, such as the old 10% weapon dmg reduction on weapons mastery. I think it would balance out if mutliclassing gave up a perk slot.

i think a limited time gamemode would be cool little end of season event for example randomised perks, skills and weapons/armor would be like a fun thing for a bit after the season ends when it doesnt really matter what you do

oh you poor, poor soul. You would not survive a week in the ye olden days...

it could become a core feature if it was in a diferrent gamemode, so If you want to have fun doing random things (because no everyone just like to copy the best build but to just mess around) you could play multiclass but if you want the normal game we all are here for you could

I Hope multiclass will only be event based, and never a main feature.

A interesting take on something I have no dog in the fight on. I haven't played Magic and I don't play Dark and Darker. What I really find interesting is listening to someone with knowledge on a game and having actual reasonable critiques on the subject. Thanks for trying something different :D

It's the best analysis of the multiclass system I've heard and I completely agree. You described the feeling I have since the day of the change - the class diversity just disappeared. I'm having a temporary fun with some random builds, but I feel I get bored quicker than normally.

I dont care if i loose to a 80 pdr demon whatever im having so much fun with my bard druid, 5 songs and the panther chicken jump

I could see it being a core part of the game, although with alot of balancing involved, probabaly something along the lines of only one secondary class and reduced effectivness of abilities/perks

7:00 can’t compare magic to coitus

The moment you get burnt alive by a move speed Warlock with Phantomize & Dreamwalk & Flame Walker & Debuff Duration Bonus, you understand why this can never ever be a core feature in the game

Multiclass sucks . Can’t wait for the wipe . I think the DaD devs are just friends with the dungeonborne devs cuz they’re basically passing us to the crew like some groupie chick

multiclassing is only fun with friends and no gear imo. solos just isnt fun with landmine barbarians and 75/75 pdr mdr tanks that are still fast etc etc. and gear makes multiclassing even wose because you can get ridiculously strong by building into some crazy synergies, making gear diffs a much bigger problem.

As long as they add it only for limited time, I'm fine with multiclass.

500hrs on DnD and will not be remotely touching this game till multiclass is removed cuz wtf thats cringe asf and meant for sole losers aka sgf apparently

as a veteran with almost 1000 hours in game playing dark and darker u have no idea how right u are

Great job in there, some fun learning the ways of the newest patch. Keeping the content fresh. I like it! Excellent use of speeding up the chase there, fun music to pair it with too.

he probably looted the cloak during the match lol

9:33 A classic race track in Dark and Darker today featuring a ranger and a barbarian!