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Nahhhh EWC is a Mickey Mouse tournament - still have GENG winning worlds

@@AllChatLoL T1 fans would disagree with you now lol

@LucasM-dq9gh Lets go! Thanks so much! We really enjoyed doing the quiz games, more of those to come for sure!

Worlds and MSI B2B?? :o

Damn straight T1FIGHTING

Oh yeah 100%. We made this list before play-ins and he was without a doubt the worst of the major region top laners going into the tournament. Obviously he started GIGA smurfing and put 369 in the dirt during that Camille game, but ranking him last was correct. Check back on Wednesday tho cause we will absolutely be talking about his performance in this week's episode.

whats wrong about the G2 placements?

We'd love to get proven wrong and see G2 at the top of everything by the end of MSI, plz don't throw up tho

@@brandonverzijl6234 righttt who does BB go over? Yike? They're a sick team, but their strength is defo the sum of their parts

Might be a little bias from a Peyz fan, definitely think Jackey is insane which is why they're same tier, but I think this is going to be Peyz's breakout international that will cement him as one of the best in the world. Or I could be way off and look like an idiot 😂😂😂. Hopefully they play each other, cuz that matchup is going to be so fun to watch.

Chillllllllllll I'm just a big Peyz fan and think he's gonna pop off and surprise some people 😂😂😂. We had 369 as #1 Top and Knight in the same tier as Chovy but you must've missed that. Also it's "by the fans, for the fans" so we're just giving our own takes as fans of the game!!

I don't play this game, but I've played other games at a semi competitive level, and have a background in traditional sports. You don't understand how important it is to have a good team around you to perform. If your team isn't playing at a high level, your individual performance is going to drop.

@@AllChatLoL Will no shit because every analyst with even half a brain is putting 369 number 1 and Knight as a s tier player. If you didn't do at least that this list will look like a complete joke.

Thank you! Tried to keep it pretty fair, excited to see what form of G2 we see!

Thanks! I don't blame you for having Gen.G winning, I think GEN/BLG/T1 are all super capable and a lot of people are saying this is THE Gen.G year - Canyon is a huge change for the team fs. The Gen.G mental block against BLG is definitely going to be a hurdle tho like you said. - Jack

It felt like a weird call to make while we were doing it too, and we acknowledged that there seems to be a big gap between TES/G2. But it does feel like G2 should be a tier above the other LCS/LEC teams, and TES does feel like the weakest of the LPL/LCK teams. Guess we'll see!

@@AllChatLoL it’s simple. look at a line graph 0-100 fnc(0)--g2(__)--tes(100) what you’re stating is the gap between g2 and tes is less than the gap between g2 and fnc. you’re rating g2 for example at 60-75 fnc(0)-----g2(75)--tes(100) which is a bold statement considering how close the g2 fnc finals were. it’s more like fnc(0)--g2(35)-----tes(100) but it’s your tier list, just subjectively wrong is all

@@Aikocake That's a really good explanation of your way of looking at it. I think where we differ is that I like having G2 in TES tier because I see both G2/TES as being able to upset S tier teams, where I wouldn't give that same credit to FNC for instance. We also ended up making our tier list kind of a combination of domestic performance/international potential/international results, so part of having G2 that high is that we see G2 having better results than FNC/FLY/TL, but not winning MSI - similar to TES.

@@Aikocake Another thing to consider, and I'd love to hear your thoughts, is G2 looked significantly better before their laneswap strategy and throughout both Winter and Spring split, but the recency bias with the FNC series might be underrating them a bit. They didn't look great in the Spring Final, but you can't deny that they were miles above anyone else in LEC/LCS before then. I don't think its too far off to say they can compete with the best if they play normally and pull out some draft surprises instead handicapping themselves with their laneswap strategy. - Grayson

if there is a western team to beat a asian one it will always be more liklely for g2 than the rest

That would be SICK, honestly if that happens, I'm on board! I think there's a very good chance T1 makes finals, and I would be happy to see this TES team make finals too. Plus, that would likely make for a really engaging and hype tournament in the quarters and semi's! - Jack

We meant no disrespect to the minor regions, just making the point that there's a lot of people who consistently believe that NA teams will lose to them. It was super hype to see how well PSG and TW did, and same with GAM beating TL, I think we're just still not sold that those results are the standard.

@@AllChatLoL It's not the standard every year, but PCS and VCS are consistently strong enough to challenge lower seeds from NA/EU. I'm sure you've heard of the legendary Flash Wolves. Those guys looked like they could beat LPL/LCK at some points. GAM infamously through the help of a bug ruined TES's 2022 run lol.

@@damiester1 Oh for sure, I still miss the Flash Wolves, what a legendary team. And thats a fair point, even non-VCS/PCS teams have had moments of stepping up too. I mean the KaBuM incident will ALWAYS be remembered, even if it was a flash in the pan. - Jack

My bad 🤣I'm a little behind the curve when it comes to the pro league scene since I've been watching since 2021. I'm definitely a little late to the party, but I'm learning more and more from your comments, and that's what I love about doing this!! There's so many more people out there to learn from, and so many fans out there that have informative and structured takes like we're seeing from you, that help us look less like donkeys in the future. - Grayson

Just looked it up, can't believe he's only made semifinals at worlds once. Still find it impressive that the HLE roster made it out of groups though too. Do you think this is GenG's year? Does he at least make an international final?

@@AllChatLoL I don't think we can say who makes finals until we see the draws. BLG beating Gen-G is almost as iconic as Gen-G beating T1 now. There are specific team match up counters due to playstyle differences. There's also the scary possibility of civil war in the first round at Worlds because of the format. If you're an LCK fan, the worst nightmare would be Gen-G vs T1 first round etc.

@@AllChatLoL haha is it another GenG and T1 final:P

@@damiester1 that wont happen because T1 is going through the playins with the other teams

Totally agree, not confident that G2's lane swaps will be effective enough of a new strategy to actually work, but historically, the LEC has been successful when they have been creative with picks and strategies. G2's Pyke flex in 2019 was iconic! Guess we'll see how it goes this year!

We totally missed the Creme/OMG spring miracle run, you're right! He's looked like a pretty considerable threat especially on melee's for a while now. Didn't know about the Creme/Scout situation, thats really interesting and makes for a super cool story line, especially now that Creme is seeing so much success.

Also, we might've misworded Jackeylove being quiet until Game 4. It's more just a testament to how strong his team is now, and not having to be the focal carry point anymore that we know him as now that he has studs in 369 and Creme the team can also lean on more heavily!! It's like pick your poison with TES, and no longer Jackeylove or bust.

the math ain't mathin' 17 minutes out of the 58 are LCK related 😂😂 But you're right, sometimes we do talk about certain regions more when there's more we're interested in. At the end of the day, we're just a couple of fans sharing what we found intriguing out of the four major regions each week, and we appreciate the feedback/insight!! Also since you're checking us out, watch some of our other episodes and let us know if you feel the same way. We've had people say we focus too much on LCS before, so we're doing our best to spread things out!

I can't even imagine you trying to figure out what we're saying, if you're not in the League of Legends Esports space, we might as well be speaking another language 😂

Crazy how far he's fallen 🫡

You would miss the second kill here, and probably the first one if you think this is a hilarious joke that you just typed. Pdf champs be pdf champs but this took skill just saying!

@pocketblue he lowkey would've had 3 if he didn't get hit by the arrow I think 😳

Ur right, my bad, 5th highest in the history of the lcs is trash

Nah, he'd win.

Yeah, if you check out any of the other episodes, the time is basically evenly split across all 4 regions, we were just trying something new this time because we wanted to try and do a full LCS playoffs rundown and it ended up going really long. Sounds like you would prefer a more 25/25/25/25 split moving forward?

I think you're talking about the guy at the end, good call out! That is a clip of Guwon (T1 Esports Academy Jungler subbing for Oner) apologizing for taking Keria's penta!

Kench was Keria

Idk man, Quid is looking pretty different 👀

​@@AllChatLoL Its lcs tho

you guys are foul 💀

thats not keria

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY

Bruhhhhhhh

Oh yeah the TL draft is absolutely not it, just made it even more funny to see them try and scrap with the Nautilus

only at worlds, at msi however it’s quite the opposite

Oh, immediate 9x report jungle in the chat 😂

@@AllChatLoL always jungle's fault why they lose lane 😅

@@jamilangon5798 ESPECIALLY when it's ADC that dies 💀

You know its tough when your ADC get solo killed by their support 💀

Thats what we're saying!

This is correct 100%, take that Grayson 😤